Kendrick Lamar will kill your favorite rapper for money

illmatic is under 40 minutes long. even the first outkast album is over an hour long. i blame them for everything.

does he ever find the dominoes

mid-'90s was really the point when everything got compact disc bloat, for a few years it was only occasional bold types going much past the 50-minute park

don't forget that 1998 region where 8Ball and Master P and E-40 and Biggie were doing DOUBLE DISC EVERYTHING

haha the 8Ball is actually a triple disc, they tacked a Suave House comp onto it. the whole thing is pretty solid!

biggie wasn't doing much in 1998

trying to remember the last rapper that got away w/ a big double album -- Lupe TRIED to this year but the label talked him into splitting it up and dropping the other half next year

I love the 8 Ball but I never listened to the third disc

trying to remember the last rapper that got away w/ a big double album

― Victory Goon (some dude), Monday, October 29, 2012 2:44 PM (36 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

stop mentioning outkast.

― scott seward, Monday, October 29, 2012 2:27 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

UGK 4 Life probably the last major label rap double disc? can't believe Kanye hasn't done one yet

btw whiney did you have the good fortune to honeymoon outside hurricane territory?

haha the 8Ball is actually a triple disc, they tacked a Suave House comp onto it. the whole thing is pretty solid!

― Victory Goon (some dude), Monday, October 29, 2012 11:42 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah I have this up in my cube cos that 96 Impala is still my dream car. Great stuff.

E-40's were kinda double albums in effect

yeah but they were independent distro cult hero things, i was talking about big unit-shifting major label releases

outkast didn't get away w/that double alb

yeah, only made out with 3 Grammys and 5 million units sold

aw man <3<3<3 to have whiney back w/deep puddle dynamics and reh dogg references

underground kingz

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/472/seriouscatcover.jpg?1260046843

i honeymooned in Cape Cod. We did a 1,000-piece jigsaw puzzle and I saw a whale and I bought the Kendrick album

oh shit... were meek and ross with wale?

underground kingz

― fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, October 29, 2012 3:06 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha er yeah got the titles confused

j0rdan what the hell was that post

the dadmaster disapproves

i smiled at it

also, j0rd, thanks for RTing my emoji pumpkin, dogg. Your tweet inspired it.

yeah it's kind of a bummer that a single guest verse so rarely has that kind of impact on a career anymore. now if anything it's about how many guest verses you can do.

― Victory Goon (some dude), Monday, October 29, 2012 9:42 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I know she was already established by this point, but Nikki's "Monster" verse sort of had a similar impact... I'm sure she would've still exploded without it, of course, but it was a defining guest verse early in her career.

yeah i almost brought that up, but i think that being the best recent example illustrates how much things have changed, in the sense that she was already pretty famous before that verse and got way more famous since then for other songs.

the recent one that sticks out to me is lupe on "touch the sky" but man that was a while back

also, j0rd, thanks for RTing my emoji pumpkin, dogg. Your tweet inspired it.

― croup the color of mayonnaise (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, October 29, 2012 3:20 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

ha, my boyfriend & i were dying at emoji pumpkin

j0rdan what the hell was that post

― Victory Goon (some dude), Monday, October 29, 2012 3:14 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

admittedly could've phrased the joke better

the recent one that sticks out to me is lupe on "touch the sky" but man that was a while back

― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Monday, October 29, 2012 4:28 PM (54 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, considering that was a lot of people's first-ever exposure to lupe, good call

yeah, but in retrospect it's not even a particularly good lupe verse

actually in retrospect might've been a top percentile lupe verse

maybe going back past "monster", i think nicki's "can't stop, won't stop" freestyle on 'drought 3'

not quite the same but that was really big (and good) look for her before she was famous/fully-formed as an artist... i think a lot of the 'beam me up' buzz came off that exposure

actually in retrospect might've been a top percentile lupe verse

― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Monday, October 29, 2012 4:32 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes, it is. considering how insufferable i find him now, i always really enjoy that verse when it pops up

apropos of nothing but listening to this "can't stop" freestyle and wayne says "all these other niggas pussy like dry sperm" which might be the most nonsensical wayne line ever

or he has the working knowledge of the female body of a republican

yeah that makes absolutely no sense...

Whiney, you liked The Cool though, didn't you? This album kinda reminds me of The Cool, only much better and more personal.

haven't heard the whole Meek Mill album yet but i like Caramanica's take on MM vs. Kendrick:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/29/arts/music/kendrick-lamar-and-meek-mill-rappers-with-debut-albums.html?ref=arts&pagewanted=all

that's a good piece about two modes of rap unfortunately pegged to two albums that don't quite fit the argument: the most immediate tracks on kendrick's album are way more memorable than most of meek mill's album (which just seems toned down in a lot of ways compared to his mixtapes, both wrt energy and storytelling)

Lex otm. The biggest problem with the Weak Willie is that it isn't very good at being immediate. My four year old daughter is singing along with the Kendrick hooks though.

not to mention that there's Beach House samples

lol I think we've found the molten core of Whiney's problem w/this record

seriously though Whines the response to this is your punishment for that "Baroness is the metal album of the year" wackness, enjoy every minute of it Mr Soft Metal Lover

looool

whiney's post itt was like the most considered criticism of this album that i've seen so far (more considered than my own, for sure)

yeah to be real I can dig Whiney's take - I don't agree w/it, but I'm not a rap head, I listen to random shit & bigger albums and this is the first one that's really grabbed me in a while - I liked the Schoolboy Q album, but not as well - the one thing I'd say is "overproduced"? what's that mean? didn't you rep hard for the Big Boi album?" - that was a heavy production job, this is more like "mixing it for the dudes with the headphones on"

I think "soft beats" is an accurate criticism but not really a jab (and that the Beach House sample is in this wheelhouse, too) - there's a smooth, deliberately soft west coast feel to this imo, it's shooting for something dreamy. (which makes the freestyle, as much as I dig it, seem out of place.) I know Whiney likes his rap HARD AS FUCK tho. The one thing I don't think can be fairly argued is that this isn't a really well-crafted album-as-album, it reminds me of early/mid-nineties "let's just fucking go for it" records

unrelatedly I have a baby on my lap and we're listening to Kool G Rap so whatever you got goin on in your life isn't as hard as a baby learning to say "4, 5, 6 is in the mix"

”fast life” of that kool g album might be nas's best moment

the one thing I'd say is "overproduced"? what's that mean?

i mean, i think there's a lot of like female choruses and strings and interludes for the sake of having having female choruses and strings and interludes. Like all this extra stuff exists to give it the feeling of "lush" and "cinematic," when, to me, it just seems like a way to turn an excellent 45 minute rap album into a bloated 69-minute "experience"