Kendrick Lamar will kill your favorite rapper for money

never thought i'd get so much grief for THAT n-word

Funny thing is, for me, the narrative aspect is one of the things I find least compelling about this record.

otm

Funny thing is, for me, the narrative aspect is one of the things I find least compelling about this record.

yeah me too - this is what DOES fit the "admirable but not lovable" line, because it's impressive and all but it's not what's making me come back to this album (and i'm totally cherrypicking my favourites when i relisten, hardly ever listen to ~the narrative~ any more) (plus three of my favourite tracks are bonus cuts)

I think the "objectiveness" of the narrative structure is what is ultimately allowing Kendrick to follow his inclinations to be weird and free.

That is its value to me. The story in itself isn't too important.

think you guys are underselling the narrative, to me as a whole it's really just a rich and affective portrait of the compton of his youth, but individually the more narrative-driven scenes are among the best of the album, if not sequentially dependent necessarily

altho you guys are probably going to qualify what you meant by narrative aspect now

individually the more narrative-driven scenes are among the best of the album, if not sequentially dependent necessarily

I agree with this, but the overarching-concept aspect of it doesn't seem like a huge part of the listening experience for me.

the narrative is important to my enjoyment of the record but it isn't the narrative itself that i focus on when i think about what i like about it. the narrative just allows for the good stuff to 'work' & forces you to pay attention to the details hes saying, gives him the opportunity to rap from other perspectives more readily, etc

ya i think it's a necessary condition that, for a concept album to 'work' u have to be able to enjoy it without paying any attention to the concept

kendrick lamar will ruminate at length about your favorite rapper for money

some dude will kill your favorite thread for money

ya i think it's a necessary condition that, for a concept album to 'work' u have to be able to enjoy it without paying any attention to the concept

― flopson, Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:05 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes totally and the fact i can zone out the narrative and still enjoy the fuck outta this album is huge, i feel

Kendrick will diss Shyne for a laugh:
http://soundcloud.com/topdawgent/kendrick-lamar-the-jig-is-up

lol

that track is hot

I PRAY TO GOD THIS BEAT IS GOOD FOR SHYNE
IF NOT, J. COLE YOUR SHIT IS TRRAAASSSH

yes yes yes that is awesome, kendrick's got jooookes

I need to dig more into why this is the case, but a lot of Kendrick's lyrics about sex and women really skeeve me out--ditto Schoolboy Q. It's a very different kind of uneasiness than more classically misogynistic lyrics cause me. Does anyone else feel this to any extent? Or am I just an old prude?

I can't think of a single thing either of them has said that skeeves me out more than stuff said in "Wait (The Whisper Song)" (which I also like)

I can't take Schoolboy Q's machismo in large doses. He's having intercourse with my girlfriend in every single song and it gets really tiring. Plus, she's exhausted when I come home from work.

I can't take Schoolboy Q's machismo in large doses. He's having intercourse with my girlfriend in every single song and it gets really tiring. Plus, she's exhausted when I come home from work.

― O-Jah Da Lionmane (longneck), Tuesday, October 30, 2012 3:57 PM (24 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah but aren't most rappers having sex with your girlfriend in every song?

y'all have girlfriends?

Well maybe they do but Q insists on it so aggressively that these days I can hardly seem to touch her.

Somebody needs to have girlfriends. Or else Schoolboy Q wouldn't have anything to rap about.

there's a bit of a "it feels like a bag of sand when you're touching it" to kendrick

2 Chainz turned cuckolding into hip hop's new national obsession

Yeah, that's gotta be part of it. DJP, that Ying Yang song is, like, comically over-the-top. It's like death metal lyrics, but about a vagina. It might make me be a little "whoa there", but I actually find it way easier to digest than the BH stuff in the vein of what longneck's talking about. You feel like Q cares more about the fact that the girl is taken already than that her ass is hot.

there's a bit of a "it feels like a bag of sand when you're touching it" to kendrick

― seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, October 30, 2012 6:02 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

LOL

72 hours seems like an awful long time even if you're really into it so that line is a little confusing to me

it's like LL never happened up in here

otoh I will treasure the sentence "It's like death metal lyrics, but about a vagina," forever

Yeah, that's gotta be part of it. DJP, that Ying Yang song is, like, comically over-the-top. It's like death metal lyrics, but about a vagina. It might make me be a little "whoa there", but I actually find it way easier to digest than the BH stuff in the vein of what longneck's talking about. You feel like Q cares more about the fact that the girl is taken already than that her ass is hot.

― Clarke B., Tuesday, October 30, 2012 10:05 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol, exactly.

Schoolboy is a bit too close to Royce 5'9 or something to me.

it's like LL never happened up in here

oh yeah, LL was sleeping with my girlfriend back before Tauheed was even Tity Boi

yeah but w/ 2 Chainz the "your girl" mentions are through the roof, like 10 times as often as any other rapper

72 hours seems like an awful long time even if you're really into it so that line is a little confusing to me

― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, October 30, 2012 6:05 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Well, TBF, each thrust probably takes like 25 minutes.

is the "comically over the top" card the same thing that lets people deal with Tyler?

Yeesh, I can't really get with that either.

having dick the size of the eiffel tower would really damage your lower back too, i don't know if kendrick put enough thought into this

Nah, you just lay there and let the world fuck YOU

but then what is your ass resting on? deep space? the moon? i think the earth doing reverse cowgirl would enough force to knock the moon out of orbit

*PLOP*

what is this thread I dont even.

yeah i think for a lot of these rappers it's not that they're having sex with a girl but that they're having sex with YOUR girl, which is a) a dominance alpha-male thing, i.e., i'm so sexually desirable that your girl wants me more than she wants you but also b) really insecure, like you have to have girls who already are taken wanting to fuck you too? are you that in-se-cuuurr about your masculinity that you must encroach on the partners of other guys? that's supreme douche move there...

Well, 2 Chainz sounds as if he's having fun when he's taking advantage of my girl. Q is just doing it to be nasty.

she's just not that into you

DJP, was that you fainting, or...?

ren otm

Schoolboy Q is def some of the most unpleasant and joyless 'smart' 'good' rap i've ever heard, can't stand that guy

Part of the problem for me, I think, is the sheen of "realness" or no-bullshit-ness or kind of endearing honesty that the crew can exude (something that, I'd wager, also is a factor in people throwing out the "backpacker" thing in relation to them, just like upthread). The problem is, if you buy into that as being part of where they're coming from, when faced with stuff like Q's other-dudes'-girls obsession, you have no choice but to admit that the person in question is actually just, well, kind of a fucking prick.

(x-post BTW)