individually the more narrative-driven scenes are among the best of the album, if not sequentially dependent necessarily
I agree with this, but the overarching-concept aspect of it doesn't seem like a huge part of the listening experience for me.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link
the narrative is important to my enjoyment of the record but it isn't the narrative itself that i focus on when i think about what i like about it. the narrative just allows for the good stuff to 'work' & forces you to pay attention to the details hes saying, gives him the opportunity to rap from other perspectives more readily, etc
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link
ya i think it's a necessary condition that, for a concept album to 'work' u have to be able to enjoy it without paying any attention to the concept
― flopson, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link
kendrick lamar will ruminate at length about your favorite rapper for money
― seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link
some dude will kill your favorite thread for money
― Victory Goon (some dude), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link
― flopson, Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:05 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yes totally and the fact i can zone out the narrative and still enjoy the fuck outta this album is huge, i feel
― king louie riel (rennavate), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link
Kendrick will diss Shyne for a laugh:http://soundcloud.com/topdawgent/kendrick-lamar-the-jig-is-up
― O-Jah Da Lionmane (longneck), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:50 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link
that track is hot
― king louie riel (rennavate), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link
I PRAY TO GOD THIS BEAT IS GOOD FOR SHYNEIF NOT, J. COLE YOUR SHIT IS TRRAAASSSH
yes yes yes that is awesome, kendrick's got jooookes
― king louie riel (rennavate), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:42 (eleven years ago) link
I need to dig more into why this is the case, but a lot of Kendrick's lyrics about sex and women really skeeve me out--ditto Schoolboy Q. It's a very different kind of uneasiness than more classically misogynistic lyrics cause me. Does anyone else feel this to any extent? Or am I just an old prude?
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:47 (eleven years ago) link
I can't think of a single thing either of them has said that skeeves me out more than stuff said in "Wait (The Whisper Song)" (which I also like)
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link
I can't take Schoolboy Q's machismo in large doses. He's having intercourse with my girlfriend in every single song and it gets really tiring. Plus, she's exhausted when I come home from work.
― O-Jah Da Lionmane (longneck), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:57 (eleven years ago) link
― O-Jah Da Lionmane (longneck), Tuesday, October 30, 2012 3:57 PM (24 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah but aren't most rappers having sex with your girlfriend in every song?
― king louie riel (rennavate), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link
y'all have girlfriends?
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link
Well maybe they do but Q insists on it so aggressively that these days I can hardly seem to touch her.
― O-Jah Da Lionmane (longneck), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link
Somebody needs to have girlfriends. Or else Schoolboy Q wouldn't have anything to rap about.
― O-Jah Da Lionmane (longneck), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link
there's a bit of a "it feels like a bag of sand when you're touching it" to kendrick
― seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link
2 Chainz turned cuckolding into hip hop's new national obsession
― Victory Goon (some dude), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, that's gotta be part of it. DJP, that Ying Yang song is, like, comically over-the-top. It's like death metal lyrics, but about a vagina. It might make me be a little "whoa there", but I actually find it way easier to digest than the BH stuff in the vein of what longneck's talking about. You feel like Q cares more about the fact that the girl is taken already than that her ass is hot.
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:05 (eleven years ago) link
― seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, October 30, 2012 6:02 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
LOL
72 hours seems like an awful long time even if you're really into it so that line is a little confusing to me
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:05 (eleven years ago) link
it's like LL never happened up in here
otoh I will treasure the sentence "It's like death metal lyrics, but about a vagina," forever
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link
― Clarke B., Tuesday, October 30, 2012 10:05 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol, exactly.
― O-Jah Da Lionmane (longneck), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:08 (eleven years ago) link
Schoolboy is a bit too close to Royce 5'9 or something to me.
― O-Jah Da Lionmane (longneck), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:09 (eleven years ago) link
oh yeah, LL was sleeping with my girlfriend back before Tauheed was even Tity Boi
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:10 (eleven years ago) link
yeah but w/ 2 Chainz the "your girl" mentions are through the roof, like 10 times as often as any other rapper
― Victory Goon (some dude), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:12 (eleven years ago) link
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, October 30, 2012 6:05 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Well, TBF, each thrust probably takes like 25 minutes.
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:12 (eleven years ago) link
is the "comically over the top" card the same thing that lets people deal with Tyler?
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:13 (eleven years ago) link
Yeesh, I can't really get with that either.
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:14 (eleven years ago) link
having dick the size of the eiffel tower would really damage your lower back too, i don't know if kendrick put enough thought into this
― seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:14 (eleven years ago) link
Nah, you just lay there and let the world fuck YOU
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:17 (eleven years ago) link
but then what is your ass resting on? deep space? the moon? i think the earth doing reverse cowgirl would enough force to knock the moon out of orbit
― seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:19 (eleven years ago) link
*PLOP*
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:20 (eleven years ago) link
what is this thread I dont even.
― Luchinski pourin' from the sky, let's get rich (what) (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:21 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i think for a lot of these rappers it's not that they're having sex with a girl but that they're having sex with YOUR girl, which is a) a dominance alpha-male thing, i.e., i'm so sexually desirable that your girl wants me more than she wants you but also b) really insecure, like you have to have girls who already are taken wanting to fuck you too? are you that in-se-cuuurr about your masculinity that you must encroach on the partners of other guys? that's supreme douche move there...
― king louie riel (rennavate), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:22 (eleven years ago) link
Well, 2 Chainz sounds as if he's having fun when he's taking advantage of my girl. Q is just doing it to be nasty.
― O-Jah Da Lionmane (longneck), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:23 (eleven years ago) link
she's just not that into you
― seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:24 (eleven years ago) link
DJP, was that you fainting, or...?
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:24 (eleven years ago) link
ren otm
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:36 (eleven years ago) link
Schoolboy Q is def some of the most unpleasant and joyless 'smart' 'good' rap i've ever heard, can't stand that guy
― Victory Goon (some dude), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:56 (eleven years ago) link
Part of the problem for me, I think, is the sheen of "realness" or no-bullshit-ness or kind of endearing honesty that the crew can exude (something that, I'd wager, also is a factor in people throwing out the "backpacker" thing in relation to them, just like upthread). The problem is, if you buy into that as being part of where they're coming from, when faced with stuff like Q's other-dudes'-girls obsession, you have no choice but to admit that the person in question is actually just, well, kind of a fucking prick.
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 30 October 2012 23:00 (eleven years ago) link
(x-post BTW)
Hahaha
That was a terrible ILE inside joke
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 23:04 (eleven years ago) link
brb having sex w/ all of this girlfriends
― flopson, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link
― Victory Goon (some dude), Tuesday, October 30, 2012 6:56 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
"joyless" is a good way to put it. There's a sort of surgical, pathological detachment in the way he describes his sexual exploits that goes beyond joyless and into the realm of creepy for me.
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 30 October 2012 23:08 (eleven years ago) link
Q is pretty goofy a lot of the time tho! I mean, if you're listening to "Druggy's With Hoes Again" and going omg so serious I think you need to take a step back for a second.
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 23:13 (eleven years ago) link
Joyless otm.
― O-Jah Da Lionmane (longneck), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 23:13 (eleven years ago) link
I like Q in small doses. Haven't been able to truly appreciate Habits as an album though.
― O-Jah Da Lionmane (longneck), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 23:15 (eleven years ago) link
GKMC sold 242k in its first week apparently.
― O-Jah Da Lionmane (longneck), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 23:22 (eleven years ago) link