DJP, was that you fainting, or...?
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:24 (eleven years ago) link
ren otm
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:36 (eleven years ago) link
Schoolboy Q is def some of the most unpleasant and joyless 'smart' 'good' rap i've ever heard, can't stand that guy
― Victory Goon (some dude), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:56 (eleven years ago) link
Part of the problem for me, I think, is the sheen of "realness" or no-bullshit-ness or kind of endearing honesty that the crew can exude (something that, I'd wager, also is a factor in people throwing out the "backpacker" thing in relation to them, just like upthread). The problem is, if you buy into that as being part of where they're coming from, when faced with stuff like Q's other-dudes'-girls obsession, you have no choice but to admit that the person in question is actually just, well, kind of a fucking prick.
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 30 October 2012 23:00 (eleven years ago) link
(x-post BTW)
Hahaha
That was a terrible ILE inside joke
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 23:04 (eleven years ago) link
brb having sex w/ all of this girlfriends
― flopson, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link
― Victory Goon (some dude), Tuesday, October 30, 2012 6:56 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
"joyless" is a good way to put it. There's a sort of surgical, pathological detachment in the way he describes his sexual exploits that goes beyond joyless and into the realm of creepy for me.
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 30 October 2012 23:08 (eleven years ago) link
Q is pretty goofy a lot of the time tho! I mean, if you're listening to "Druggy's With Hoes Again" and going omg so serious I think you need to take a step back for a second.
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 23:13 (eleven years ago) link
Joyless otm.
― O-Jah Da Lionmane (longneck), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 23:13 (eleven years ago) link
I like Q in small doses. Haven't been able to truly appreciate Habits as an album though.
― O-Jah Da Lionmane (longneck), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 23:15 (eleven years ago) link
GKMC sold 242k in its first week apparently.
― O-Jah Da Lionmane (longneck), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 23:22 (eleven years ago) link
whoa that's a fuckin lot of records
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 23:27 (eleven years ago) link
I don't mind Druggys Wit Hoes, really, but that detachedness is there in full force. You get the sense that sex doesn't really make him exuberantly happy, that it's not a life-affirming thing for him. Coochie anhedonia.
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 30 October 2012 23:28 (eleven years ago) link
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, October 30, 2012 7:27 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
...in 2012
― Mr. Zone A (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 01:03 (eleven years ago) link
ive been trying but i dont really like this record
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 01:04 (eleven years ago) link
whiney 242k was always a lot of records - if you think there was this "if it didn't go gold it doesn't count" mentality in the 70s you're wrong. there was a brief overinflated blip around the Nirvana boom when people started talking like anything under a million didn't count but those people were morons, if you scan 242k at any time in the soundscan era then you have sold a fuckin lotta records
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 01:57 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i mean the fact that he sold 20% as many units as Taylor Swift last week is pretty remarkable for almost anyone besides Taylor Swift, especially a rap album and especially a debut album
― Victory Goon (some dude), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 02:25 (eleven years ago) link
not to mention more than Ross's album
― Victory Goon (some dude), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 02:26 (eleven years ago) link
whiney, it's the best first-week sales since Eminem in 2002, and anyone who considered Em's an anomaly then was inured by Backstreet Boys-Nsync.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 02:27 (eleven years ago) link
Swift's, that is.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 02:28 (eleven years ago) link
whiney wasn't talking about swift, though
― Victory Goon (some dude), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 02:29 (eleven years ago) link
in fairness whiney is just randomly hating at this point
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 02:38 (eleven years ago) link
it's only a lot of hate if you factor in the lower hate threshold of post-wedding era whiney, not really impressive by 2009 standards
― Victory Goon (some dude), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 02:39 (eleven years ago) link
some dude cruising 4 bruising w/dual "mellowed by love"/"mellowed with age" combo. watch this space for fireworks
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 02:40 (eleven years ago) link
ha i just mean he's been relatively chill this week!
― Victory Goon (some dude), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 02:45 (eleven years ago) link
242,000 in sales would make it the 10th-biggest debut of 2012. Second-highest rap debut after Roman Reloaded.
― Sandy Denny Real Estate (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 04:52 (eleven years ago) link
"Second-biggest," that is. (Minaj sold 253K in her first week.)
― Sandy Denny Real Estate (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 04:55 (eleven years ago) link
― Victory Goon (some dude), Tuesday, October 30, 2012 6:56 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
feelin this
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 05:20 (eleven years ago) link
Q can be boring in his lesser moments, but I don't get the "joyless" thing at all.
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 05:39 (eleven years ago) link
Usually he sounds like he's just having fun messing around with weird adlibs and whatever.
And I've never taken him for someone trying to be a "cerebral" rapper in the vein of Kendrick.
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 05:41 (eleven years ago) link
he makes my fav individual songs although i didnt really get into the one from this yr as much
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 05:45 (eleven years ago) link
"hands on the wheel" is one of my least fav rap "hits" of the year
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 05:45 (eleven years ago) link
hits? that's not even in the better half of the album at any rate. tbh "Druggys With Hoes Again" might be my favorite rap song this year and "Nightmare On Figg St" isn't that far off.
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 05:48 (eleven years ago) link
Guys rap basically sucks now so take what you can get when you can get it, take it from the guy that's just spent the night getting drunk and listening to the new neil young record
― seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 06:06 (eleven years ago) link
what about that one song
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 06:21 (eleven years ago) link
what's wrong with it!
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 07:42 (eleven years ago) link
i cant stand that song either tbh
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 08:01 (eleven years ago) link
it's really pleasant ear candy to me
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 08:05 (eleven years ago) link
It's a song I feel like I should like but don't really. Habits is a pretty good album and Q is a good rapper but I can never get all the way through it for some reason. I think the reason is that Q lacks imagination. His world is so small.
― O-Jah Da Lionmane (longneck), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 09:02 (eleven years ago) link
And he raps with a frown.
― O-Jah Da Lionmane (longneck), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 09:17 (eleven years ago) link
Schoolboy THERE HE GO
― Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 10:37 (eleven years ago) link
I prefer Q and Ab soul to Kendrick but I know I'm in the minority on this
All three will prob make my singles list this year tho
― Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 10:39 (eleven years ago) link
And what about jay rock, i always thought about him as the fifth wheel, but his great verse on money trees is making me reconsider this.
― sisilafami, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 11:00 (eleven years ago) link
i like jay rock, he reminds me of shouty generic rappers from the late 90s (like shyne!) that i've always enjoyed.
― "It's like death metal lyrics, but about a vagina." (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 11:02 (eleven years ago) link
shyne is shouty?
― push iatee (some dude), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 11:07 (eleven years ago) link
I haven't heard much jay rock yet honestly
― Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 11:27 (eleven years ago) link
― Victory Goon (some dude), Tuesday, October 30, 2012 10:25 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
there you go with the t swift comparisons again
― all mods con (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 12:06 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It0Dtm1gFFQ
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 12:37 (eleven years ago) link