Kendrick Lamar will kill your favorite rapper for money

also the like diarrhea / i'm the shit lyric is offset by following it up with the line about how he hasn't given a fuck since his dad was killed :-(

i was about to say even "young & gettin it" sounds good in album context, compared to as a single. verses on mary j song are great too.

i think i just hate meek mill sex raps

i like the mary j joint

john legend joint should've taken a cue from kanye's "blame game" and had an extended outro of a robot girl voice going "rozay calls my pussy maybach curtains"

its

like diarrhea / i'm running shit

poor fellow

jordan's review : http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/17315-dreams-and-nightmares/

it's a great review

j0rdan is truly like diarrhea

Lil Wayne - so much to answer for.

this the meek mill thread huh

the intro is about something real, and makes a change from dubious capsule histories in other p4k lead-ins i've read, but the logic is perhaps confused. is playing "both sides of the field" really an exception and a recipe for success? & didn't waka just make choice 1? it seems like good career moves and good records are conflated, i don't really know which j0rdan is talking about at any point. again it's the rap writer's uneasy relationship with populism & judgement, reportage & critique.

In other news, I'm starting to like the Meek Mill album. It felt so uninspired next to GKMC that I didn't feel like playing it much at first. But it's coming into its own.

have you read this thread recently?

this the meek mill thread huh

the intro is about something real, and makes a change from dubious capsule histories in other p4k lead-ins i've read, but the logic is perhaps confused. is playing "both sides of the field" really an exception and a recipe for success? & didn't waka just make choice 1? it seems like good career moves and good records are conflated, i don't really know which j0rdan is talking about at any point. again it's the rap writer's uneasy relationship with populism & judgement, reportage & critique.

― zvookster, Thursday, November 1, 2012 2:10 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark

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Did the Meek Mill come out just this week? I've still not made my mind up on DC2 yet.

yeah dropped on tuesday

i was one of the defenders of DC2 a few months ago but the album is better imo

have you read this thread recently?

― fanute da croupier (D-40), Thursday, November 1, 2012 6:43 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes, deej. Yes. I have.

undecided on whats better between D&N and DC2, the latter has his 2 hits of the year (amen & burn) good street bangers (flexin & lean with it) & stuff like 'used to be' & 'the ride'.

tbf the album has "Amen" and "Burn" too (the latter just a bonus track but w/e)

Burn not being on the regular version is a real bummer.

obv you can tell this by what i've rated the two but i think this and D2 aren't too far off

DC 1 is still the best to me

nothing on either of these records is touching 'im a boss' or 'house party' in the singles dept.

i hate to do the whiney "uh the album is clearly mastered" thing but

is there a single rapper alive that deej wont ride for some mixtape over an actual album?

re what zvookster said, I wasn't trying to conflate good records & good career moves (and I don't think I did)... I was talking about the latter (I don't give a shit about j cole's album, for instance)

I don't think playing both sides of the field is really a path to success, that's pretty unique to nicki and idk maybe wiz kahlifa or something at a lesser level. Waka wasn't too far off "choice 1" but definitely was not the same as someone like Travis Porter where it was like "now it's time for the debut major label album"

is there a single rapper alive that deej wont ride for some mixtape over an actual album?

― Mr. Zone A (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, November 1, 2012 5:20 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there's barely a difference! any of these songs could have been mixtape tracks or album tracks, its almost interchangeable

one thing both mixtapes have over the album is upbeat bangers. it needs more tracks like "believe it." they should've cut the blustery MMG comfort food beats for harder shit

yeah deej is right aside from mastering

is the "burn" bonus track better quality than the mixtape version? that's one of my favorite rap songs of the year

I'm guessing the fact that none of the upbeat banger ones from DC2 really blew up like that is the reason why there aren't any on here?

i will concede that the best meek mill track, "A1 Everything" is a mixtape track

and features Kendrick Lamar so there

yeah there is probably as little difference (aesthetically OR in terms of starpower) between DC2 and D&N as there has ever been between a major label album and its immediately preceding mixtape. the 2 Chainz album and his last '11 mixtape kinda same deal.

hopefully in 20 years, there will be (re)masterd re-editions of classic mixtapes.

I threw my copy of Jadakiss - "The Champ Is Here" away after the fire and it took like a whole night of internet sleuthing to find a fucking copy

and thats literally one of the most important mixtapes ever made and not even 10 years old. straight up we're just chewing these up and spitting these out and everything is getting lost to the sands of time

which is why I bought hard copies of the KRIT tapes Green Streets made em

http://www.amazon.com/Krit-Wuz-Here-Big/dp/B007LMP82K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1351809295&sr=8-1&keywords=krit+was

i have several gucci mixtapes in cdr's and slim cases.

did that have the version with the ali sample that i think got pulled?

I don't think I did)... I was talking about the latter

yeh that's what i thought but it's not explicit, and it says "better, more accessible versions of the early songs" so by the time u use these problems to explain the rarity of the "good-to-great" major record there was room for confusion for me at least.

hopefully in 20 years, there will be (re)masterd re-editions of classic mixtapes.

― sisilafami, Thursday, 1 November 2012

sadly this will never happen

roach gigz brought out a p sweet double CD of roachy balboa 1&2, anyone pick that up? seems to be gone now

"champ is here" had the ali sample but i never heard anything about it getting pulled. they played that joint on the radio!

sadly this will never happen

― zvookster, Thursday, November 1, 2012 5:54 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

figured they're already doing that to Gucci's catalog, thats why you cant get half his tapes w/out doing serious online hunting

what? Warners has always been terrible about pulling 'official' non-label Gucci mixtapes offline, seriously doubt it's because they want to put out remastered retail versions

meek's gonna move b/w 160-180 first week

salad days are here again

yeah i saw that, pretty impressed that he did better than 2 Chainz' first week (and pretty much any non-Kendrick new artist since, i guess, J. Cole)

imo he had the potential to do better than kendrick lamar... don't know if sandy is has any significance in these numbers..

what? Warners has always been terrible about pulling 'official' non-label Gucci mixtapes offline, seriously doubt it's because they want to put out remastered retail versions

― some dude, Thursday, November 1, 2012 5:58 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you can't get almost any pre-cold war gucci mixtapes on datpiff