In other news, I'm starting to like the Meek Mill album. It felt so uninspired next to GKMC that I didn't feel like playing it much at first. But it's coming into its own.
― weak willie (longneck), Thursday, 1 November 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link
have you read this thread recently?
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Thursday, 1 November 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link
this the meek mill thread huh
the intro is about something real, and makes a change from dubious capsule histories in other p4k lead-ins i've read, but the logic is perhaps confused. is playing "both sides of the field" really an exception and a recipe for success? & didn't waka just make choice 1? it seems like good career moves and good records are conflated, i don't really know which j0rdan is talking about at any point. again it's the rap writer's uneasy relationship with populism & judgement, reportage & critique.
― zvookster, Thursday, November 1, 2012 2:10 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark
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― some dude, Thursday, 1 November 2012 18:51 (eleven years ago) link
Did the Meek Mill come out just this week? I've still not made my mind up on DC2 yet.
― "It's like death metal lyrics, but about a vagina." (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 1 November 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link
yeah dropped on tuesday
― some dude, Thursday, 1 November 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link
i was one of the defenders of DC2 a few months ago but the album is better imo
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Thursday, November 1, 2012 6:43 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yes, deej. Yes. I have.
― weak willie (longneck), Thursday, 1 November 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link
undecided on whats better between D&N and DC2, the latter has his 2 hits of the year (amen & burn) good street bangers (flexin & lean with it) & stuff like 'used to be' & 'the ride'.
― sisilafami, Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:12 (eleven years ago) link
tbf the album has "Amen" and "Burn" too (the latter just a bonus track but w/e)
― some dude, Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:14 (eleven years ago) link
Burn not being on the regular version is a real bummer.
― weak willie (longneck), Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:15 (eleven years ago) link
obv you can tell this by what i've rated the two but i think this and D2 aren't too far off
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link
DC 1 is still the best to me
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:19 (eleven years ago) link
nothing on either of these records is touching 'im a boss' or 'house party' in the singles dept.
i hate to do the whiney "uh the album is clearly mastered" thing but
― Mr. Zone A (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:20 (eleven years ago) link
is there a single rapper alive that deej wont ride for some mixtape over an actual album?
re what zvookster said, I wasn't trying to conflate good records & good career moves (and I don't think I did)... I was talking about the latter (I don't give a shit about j cole's album, for instance)
I don't think playing both sides of the field is really a path to success, that's pretty unique to nicki and idk maybe wiz kahlifa or something at a lesser level. Waka wasn't too far off "choice 1" but definitely was not the same as someone like Travis Porter where it was like "now it's time for the debut major label album"
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:23 (eleven years ago) link
― Mr. Zone A (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, November 1, 2012 5:20 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
there's barely a difference! any of these songs could have been mixtape tracks or album tracks, its almost interchangeable
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:25 (eleven years ago) link
one thing both mixtapes have over the album is upbeat bangers. it needs more tracks like "believe it." they should've cut the blustery MMG comfort food beats for harder shit
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:25 (eleven years ago) link
yeah deej is right aside from mastering
is the "burn" bonus track better quality than the mixtape version? that's one of my favorite rap songs of the year
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:26 (eleven years ago) link
I'm guessing the fact that none of the upbeat banger ones from DC2 really blew up like that is the reason why there aren't any on here?
― weak willie (longneck), Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:27 (eleven years ago) link
i will concede that the best meek mill track, "A1 Everything" is a mixtape track
― Mr. Zone A (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:27 (eleven years ago) link
and features Kendrick Lamar so there
― Mr. Zone A (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:28 (eleven years ago) link
yeah there is probably as little difference (aesthetically OR in terms of starpower) between DC2 and D&N as there has ever been between a major label album and its immediately preceding mixtape. the 2 Chainz album and his last '11 mixtape kinda same deal.
― some dude, Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:29 (eleven years ago) link
hopefully in 20 years, there will be (re)masterd re-editions of classic mixtapes.
― sisilafami, Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:32 (eleven years ago) link
I threw my copy of Jadakiss - "The Champ Is Here" away after the fire and it took like a whole night of internet sleuthing to find a fucking copy
― Mr. Zone A (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:33 (eleven years ago) link
and thats literally one of the most important mixtapes ever made and not even 10 years old. straight up we're just chewing these up and spitting these out and everything is getting lost to the sands of time
― Mr. Zone A (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:34 (eleven years ago) link
which is why I bought hard copies of the KRIT tapes Green Streets made em
http://www.amazon.com/Krit-Wuz-Here-Big/dp/B007LMP82K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1351809295&sr=8-1&keywords=krit+was
― Mr. Zone A (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:35 (eleven years ago) link
i have several gucci mixtapes in cdr's and slim cases.
― sisilafami, Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:49 (eleven years ago) link
did that have the version with the ali sample that i think got pulled?
― seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link
I don't think I did)... I was talking about the latter
yeh that's what i thought but it's not explicit, and it says "better, more accessible versions of the early songs" so by the time u use these problems to explain the rarity of the "good-to-great" major record there was room for confusion for me at least.
― sisilafami, Thursday, 1 November 2012
sadly this will never happen
roach gigz brought out a p sweet double CD of roachy balboa 1&2, anyone pick that up? seems to be gone now
― zvookster, Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:54 (eleven years ago) link
"champ is here" had the ali sample but i never heard anything about it getting pulled. they played that joint on the radio!
― some dude, Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:56 (eleven years ago) link
― zvookster, Thursday, November 1, 2012 5:54 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
figured they're already doing that to Gucci's catalog, thats why you cant get half his tapes w/out doing serious online hunting
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:56 (eleven years ago) link
what? Warners has always been terrible about pulling 'official' non-label Gucci mixtapes offline, seriously doubt it's because they want to put out remastered retail versions
― some dude, Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:58 (eleven years ago) link
meek's gonna move b/w 160-180 first week
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 1 November 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link
salad days are here again
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 November 2012 23:09 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i saw that, pretty impressed that he did better than 2 Chainz' first week (and pretty much any non-Kendrick new artist since, i guess, J. Cole)
― some dude, Thursday, 1 November 2012 23:10 (eleven years ago) link
imo he had the potential to do better than kendrick lamar... don't know if sandy is has any significance in these numbers..
― sisilafami, Thursday, 1 November 2012 23:13 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Thursday, November 1, 2012 5:58 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
you can't get almost any pre-cold war gucci mixtapes on datpiff
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Thursday, 1 November 2012 23:15 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, that's what i was saying?
― some dude, Thursday, 1 November 2012 23:20 (eleven years ago) link
oh i misread. but yeah imo it makes sense that theyre tring to hold onto intellectual copyright idk
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Thursday, 1 November 2012 23:27 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Thursday, November 1, 2012 5:56 PM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ah i thought i heard a version w/o it, thought the when we were kings ppl had it yanked, could be wrong
― seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 1 November 2012 23:33 (eleven years ago) link
you probably just heard the actual song from jada's album ("time's up") that they took the verses for "the champ is here" from?
― some dude, Friday, 2 November 2012 00:25 (eleven years ago) link
sample clearance issue sorta rings a bell for me too but idk i guess it's probably more likely that everyone just assumed that was the case
― r|t|c, Friday, 2 November 2012 01:26 (eleven years ago) link
yeah who knows, some dude is probably right, just a vague recollection i had
― seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 2 November 2012 01:31 (eleven years ago) link
i would like to think will smith would keep the lawyers off jada out of respect of the game but maybe he was like "aw hell no, kool & the gang made me pay up so now it's your turn!"
― some dude, Friday, 2 November 2012 01:35 (eleven years ago) link
i think i need to buy this meek mill album
― Raymond Cummings, Friday, 2 November 2012 02:58 (eleven years ago) link
i did! you too!
― some dude, Friday, 2 November 2012 02:59 (eleven years ago) link
ok man
as soon as i can afford it or get an itunes card i'm on this
listening to it on soundcloud now
― Raymond Cummings, Friday, 2 November 2012 03:03 (eleven years ago) link
ha ok listening to dreamchasers 2 now...i've totally heard Amen a bunch of times on KMOJ The People's Station ("Bringing Unity to the Community")...but i didn't know to it was called Amen i just thought of it as "Church"
― seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 2 November 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link
even tho they say amen a bunch too