Kendrick Lamar will kill your favorite rapper for money

DC 1 is still the best to me

nothing on either of these records is touching 'im a boss' or 'house party' in the singles dept.

i hate to do the whiney "uh the album is clearly mastered" thing but

is there a single rapper alive that deej wont ride for some mixtape over an actual album?

re what zvookster said, I wasn't trying to conflate good records & good career moves (and I don't think I did)... I was talking about the latter (I don't give a shit about j cole's album, for instance)

I don't think playing both sides of the field is really a path to success, that's pretty unique to nicki and idk maybe wiz kahlifa or something at a lesser level. Waka wasn't too far off "choice 1" but definitely was not the same as someone like Travis Porter where it was like "now it's time for the debut major label album"

is there a single rapper alive that deej wont ride for some mixtape over an actual album?

― Mr. Zone A (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, November 1, 2012 5:20 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there's barely a difference! any of these songs could have been mixtape tracks or album tracks, its almost interchangeable

one thing both mixtapes have over the album is upbeat bangers. it needs more tracks like "believe it." they should've cut the blustery MMG comfort food beats for harder shit

yeah deej is right aside from mastering

is the "burn" bonus track better quality than the mixtape version? that's one of my favorite rap songs of the year

I'm guessing the fact that none of the upbeat banger ones from DC2 really blew up like that is the reason why there aren't any on here?

i will concede that the best meek mill track, "A1 Everything" is a mixtape track

and features Kendrick Lamar so there

yeah there is probably as little difference (aesthetically OR in terms of starpower) between DC2 and D&N as there has ever been between a major label album and its immediately preceding mixtape. the 2 Chainz album and his last '11 mixtape kinda same deal.

hopefully in 20 years, there will be (re)masterd re-editions of classic mixtapes.

I threw my copy of Jadakiss - "The Champ Is Here" away after the fire and it took like a whole night of internet sleuthing to find a fucking copy

and thats literally one of the most important mixtapes ever made and not even 10 years old. straight up we're just chewing these up and spitting these out and everything is getting lost to the sands of time

which is why I bought hard copies of the KRIT tapes Green Streets made em

http://www.amazon.com/Krit-Wuz-Here-Big/dp/B007LMP82K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1351809295&sr=8-1&keywords=krit+was

i have several gucci mixtapes in cdr's and slim cases.

did that have the version with the ali sample that i think got pulled?

I don't think I did)... I was talking about the latter

yeh that's what i thought but it's not explicit, and it says "better, more accessible versions of the early songs" so by the time u use these problems to explain the rarity of the "good-to-great" major record there was room for confusion for me at least.

hopefully in 20 years, there will be (re)masterd re-editions of classic mixtapes.

― sisilafami, Thursday, 1 November 2012

sadly this will never happen

roach gigz brought out a p sweet double CD of roachy balboa 1&2, anyone pick that up? seems to be gone now

"champ is here" had the ali sample but i never heard anything about it getting pulled. they played that joint on the radio!

sadly this will never happen

― zvookster, Thursday, November 1, 2012 5:54 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

figured they're already doing that to Gucci's catalog, thats why you cant get half his tapes w/out doing serious online hunting

what? Warners has always been terrible about pulling 'official' non-label Gucci mixtapes offline, seriously doubt it's because they want to put out remastered retail versions

meek's gonna move b/w 160-180 first week

salad days are here again

yeah i saw that, pretty impressed that he did better than 2 Chainz' first week (and pretty much any non-Kendrick new artist since, i guess, J. Cole)

imo he had the potential to do better than kendrick lamar... don't know if sandy is has any significance in these numbers..

what? Warners has always been terrible about pulling 'official' non-label Gucci mixtapes offline, seriously doubt it's because they want to put out remastered retail versions

― some dude, Thursday, November 1, 2012 5:58 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you can't get almost any pre-cold war gucci mixtapes on datpiff

yeah, that's what i was saying?

oh i misread. but yeah imo it makes sense that theyre tring to hold onto intellectual copyright idk

"champ is here" had the ali sample but i never heard anything about it getting pulled. they played that joint on the radio!

― some dude, Thursday, November 1, 2012 5:56 PM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ah i thought i heard a version w/o it, thought the when we were kings ppl had it yanked, could be wrong

you probably just heard the actual song from jada's album ("time's up") that they took the verses for "the champ is here" from?

sample clearance issue sorta rings a bell for me too but idk i guess it's probably more likely that everyone just assumed that was the case

yeah who knows, some dude is probably right, just a vague recollection i had

i would like to think will smith would keep the lawyers off jada out of respect of the game but maybe he was like "aw hell no, kool & the gang made me pay up so now it's your turn!"

i think i need to buy this meek mill album

i did! you too!

ok man

as soon as i can afford it or get an itunes card i'm on this

listening to it on soundcloud now

ha ok listening to dreamchasers 2 now...i've totally heard Amen a bunch of times on KMOJ The People's Station ("Bringing Unity to the Community")...but i didn't know to it was called Amen i just thought of it as "Church"

even tho they say amen a bunch too

they arent' very good about telling you what songs they just played

Have we talked about "the jig is up" yet

this is the Meek Mill thread now, the window has passed

The Meek Mill album is not fun at all

i bought the album. i love it. a couple of people left my store in a hurry while it was playing, but art sometimes creates casualties. middle school teacher who brought his photography students in didn't seem to mind it.

Meek Mill album is what I consider fun, nasty fun

the only 'fun' song on the meek is 'layup'

its also not a very immediate record although he's a very immediate rapper. but the songs arent v pop at all

still think its p good tho

Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous is pretty bad.

that song is def not what is good about the album but i actually like it & it only reinforces the intensely depressing feel of the record

he sounds so checked out and noncommittal on the pop songs, which is weird, since Dreamchasers 2 proved he could do the shameless pop thing pretty well.

the whole album strikes me as a little weird, actually. I can appreciate how austere it is, and it's all very competent, but "depressing" really isn't the lane that suits him best, or what anybody wanted to hear from a Meek Mill album