Kendrick Lamar will kill your favorite rapper for money

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I love that song. It's the only one on the album that I've regularly sought out since exhausting the record a few weeks ago

Evan R, Friday, 9 November 2012 00:08 (eleven years ago) link

(I don't mean that as a knock against the record, which is littered with greatness obviously; I just don't think the album has great replay value)

Evan R, Friday, 9 November 2012 00:09 (eleven years ago) link

the album has great replay value but there are a few i skip all the time. the hook is the WORST, dullest thing

lex pretend, Friday, 9 November 2012 00:12 (eleven years ago) link

hook is honestly like a top 5 moment from this album for me...

Andrew W, Friday, 9 November 2012 00:15 (eleven years ago) link

it's so lazy and whiny and irritating and fundamentally unvibey

lex pretend, Friday, 9 November 2012 00:17 (eleven years ago) link

Lol. And no.

weak willie (longneck), Friday, 9 November 2012 00:25 (eleven years ago) link

def my favorite song on the album. this is another one of your weird hatred of "adorn" things, huh?

thraeds of life (The Reverend), Friday, 9 November 2012 00:36 (eleven years ago) link

^^

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Friday, 9 November 2012 02:01 (eleven years ago) link

Lex don't kill my vibe.

Luchinski pourin' from the sky, let's get rich (what) (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, 9 November 2012 02:05 (eleven years ago) link

Still, the album isn't quite a classic: Lamar's depiction of downtrodden women is unnecessarily prurient and unconvincing.

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r|t|c, Friday, 9 November 2012 02:07 (eleven years ago) link

good thing that no classic rap albums have downtrodden women or unnecessary prurience

fanute da croupier (D-40), Friday, 9 November 2012 02:40 (eleven years ago) link

Thought I was downloading the Kendrick Lamar album, turned out to be a fake & is actually Skyzoo's A Dream Deferred. But it's pretty good!

Sandy Denny Real Estate (jaymc), Saturday, 10 November 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link

lol

a man d'Balmer (some dude), Saturday, 10 November 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link

skyzoo fans will do anything to make that guy happen huh

a man d'Balmer (some dude), Saturday, 10 November 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link

I liked the one he did with !llmind

captain angeroo (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 10 November 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link

lex, of all the hooks to call out, why that one and not the atrocious hook on backseat freestyle? i find backseat freestyle and compton to be the weak points on the album. braggadocio doesn't suit kendrick, even the meta-braggadocio on backseat freestyle. the eiffel tower line is just painful; i don't care if the song is a k-dot retrospective

fennel cartwright, Sunday, 11 November 2012 11:08 (eleven years ago) link

yeah "Backseat Freestyle" doesn't work for me at all

a man d'Balmer (some dude), Sunday, 11 November 2012 12:34 (eleven years ago) link

I love Backstreet Freestyle, inc the hook and the Eiffel Tower line, I like that the album has a banger on it. I don't know what anyone has against Real either. The BDKMV hook just brings to mind boring stoners whingeing

lex pretend, Sunday, 11 November 2012 12:40 (eleven years ago) link

it's almost literally a "banger" in scarequotes though

a man d'Balmer (some dude), Sunday, 11 November 2012 12:51 (eleven years ago) link

i love "real", especially the earnest corniness, but i can see how it might not pop to people who aren't saps like me. speaks for how amazing this album is that "real" is a below-the-median track.

"bdkmv" is pretty stonery and contemplative... which is really what kendrick does? i'm perfectly happy to leave bangers to every other rapper. dislike the unchallenged idea that contemplative rappers must include at least one banger on every lp. i've been listening to aquemini a lot lately, and enjoy how they had the good sense to bring in raekwon for their obligatory banger to pop off. i rep for drake but he is really not the right sidekick to inject energy into that war-drum beat. i guess kendrick already made his track with gunplay, though.

fennel cartwright, Sunday, 11 November 2012 12:55 (eleven years ago) link

"backseat freestyle" is not one that i listen to out of context but it makes sense in the arch of the album and sounds better up against all the other beats on the album

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 11 November 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link

"backseat freestyle" is one of the less remarkable productions IMO but since it's the only banger it works more than it would if it was just on something like 2 chainz' album or w/e

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 11 November 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

I listen to "Backseat Freestyle" constantly because of the cadence shifts in the rapping and the components that drop in and out of the beat, especially the "Ooooooh" that comes in when Kendrick starts getting nuts.

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Sunday, 11 November 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

"Backseat Freestyle" worked very well as on-repeat getting myself pumped to go out music last night.

Also re the "Eiffel Tower" line, I love how it's balanced out by the line "and I cum too fast, but I never get embarrassed"

thraeds of life (The Reverend), Sunday, 11 November 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

BDKMV is just straight-up gorgeous and if you can't see that then ijdk.

thraeds of life (The Reverend), Sunday, 11 November 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link

^^^ this too

basically I like every song on this a lot, even the one with Drake on it, which also pisses me off but hey

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Sunday, 11 November 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link

Sometimes I'm not in the mood for that ARANDINGDING sample in "Backseat Freestyle."

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 November 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

I am always in the mood for that sample

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Sunday, 11 November 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link

"and I cum too fast, but I never get embarrassed"

classic

flopson, Sunday, 11 November 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link

As far as bangers go I can get behind Backseat Freestyle but something about it rubs me the wrong and I'll try to compose that into a intelligible post:

it's kind of like Kendrick is trying to get away with being ratchet and excessive by passing it off like "this isn't how I am now or anything, I just acted like this in high school" but there's a logical flaw there because like, it's a track he recorded and released in 2012. It's analogous to saying "I don't mean to be racist but..." and then saying something crazy racist. Like you shouldn't get a pass for saying stuff like that cause you preempted it with that tag, if that makes any sense. I really like the song and get its place on the album but that aspect of it is a little ehhh to me.

Andrew W, Monday, 12 November 2012 06:54 (eleven years ago) link

Well it's not being racist. It's letting go - and the album needs it.

weak willie (longneck), Monday, 12 November 2012 07:32 (eleven years ago) link

yes ok the racist analogy was extreme but I stand by my sentiment that it's him trying to get away with being, as fennel cartwright said, "braggadocio," even though it seems like a lot of the rest of the album wants to get away from that, under this rouse of "we were such crazy teenagers!"

Andrew W, Monday, 12 November 2012 07:38 (eleven years ago) link

it's kind of like Kendrick is trying to get away with being ratchet and excessive by passing it off like "this isn't how I am now or anything, I just acted like this in high school"

yall are reading some shit into this that isnt there

fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, 12 November 2012 07:55 (eleven years ago) link

yall are reading some shit into this that isnt there

what do you mean? afaik it's pretty universally accepted that the album is a coming of age story with a linear narrative.

and i don't think the song is "letting go" at all - it seems more forced than his other tracks! i find he lets go more on "stoner" tracks like ADHD or BDKMV. the guy is naturally pretty chill and contemplative and i don't think it's very real to him being aggressive like that.

fennel cartwright, Monday, 12 November 2012 11:29 (eleven years ago) link

If you don't like the one song on this album that sounds like a rap song then I don't know what

ya bish called wanda (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 12 November 2012 12:05 (eleven years ago) link

the guy is naturally pretty chill and contemplative and i don't think it's very real to him being aggressive like that.

I dont even ride for this album that hard and this pisses me off.

The whole point of Kendrick Lamar if that he can't be boiled down to easy emotions and expected rap "modes." He's not "the contemplative guy," hes a rapper who can be comfortable being contemplative and aggressive and like 50 other things. Stop trying to make him Tribe Called Quest just because Paste is riding for him or w/e

ya bish called wanda (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 12 November 2012 12:10 (eleven years ago) link

This is why I'm not so into stressing the concept album / narrative w/ this album.

Tim F, Monday, 12 November 2012 12:23 (eleven years ago) link

but there's a logical flaw there because like, it's a track he recorded and released in 2012

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r|t|c, Monday, 12 November 2012 12:29 (eleven years ago) link

Ppl in here trying to treat a rap album like a episode of Firefly or some shit

ya bish called wanda (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 12 November 2012 13:01 (eleven years ago) link

everyone agrees that its a really really good album though, no? that in itself says a lot about the album. cuz you guys live to disagree.

i like playing it for people who come in my store who have never heard it/heard of him. i don't feel that way about a lot of new things. i feel like it's the kind of thing that can appeal to lots of different people and its still...really good! its true to itself. he's true to himself.

scott seward, Monday, 12 November 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link

unless i'm missing a patented ilm "eh, i'm not feelin' it" from someone on this thread. i might have missed one.

scott seward, Monday, 12 November 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link

You missed a couple

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 12 November 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link

there have been a few of those, yes

#YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 12 November 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link

seemed like standard ilx contrarian stunting for anything that doesnt have one hit wonder glee-pop cachet tho

fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, 12 November 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link

ilx stans for glee pop? wasn't whiney's complaint the exact opposite?

#YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 12 November 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link

maybe glee was the wrong adjective for the kind of stuff ilx likes idk

fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, 12 November 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

yeah my wish that this was more like the roc marciano and meek mill albums was def me writing a first draft of my "Stan" letter to Skylar Grey

ya bish called wanda (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 12 November 2012 15:59 (eleven years ago) link

"This is a serious album, ergo it is bad"

fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, 12 November 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link

"Needs more 'groove is in the heart'"

fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, 12 November 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link

^^^ most songs need more Groove is in the Heart tbf

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 November 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link


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