Kendrick Lamar will kill your favorite rapper for money

yeah "Backseat Freestyle" doesn't work for me at all

I love Backstreet Freestyle, inc the hook and the Eiffel Tower line, I like that the album has a banger on it. I don't know what anyone has against Real either. The BDKMV hook just brings to mind boring stoners whingeing

it's almost literally a "banger" in scarequotes though

i love "real", especially the earnest corniness, but i can see how it might not pop to people who aren't saps like me. speaks for how amazing this album is that "real" is a below-the-median track.

"bdkmv" is pretty stonery and contemplative... which is really what kendrick does? i'm perfectly happy to leave bangers to every other rapper. dislike the unchallenged idea that contemplative rappers must include at least one banger on every lp. i've been listening to aquemini a lot lately, and enjoy how they had the good sense to bring in raekwon for their obligatory banger to pop off. i rep for drake but he is really not the right sidekick to inject energy into that war-drum beat. i guess kendrick already made his track with gunplay, though.

"backseat freestyle" is not one that i listen to out of context but it makes sense in the arch of the album and sounds better up against all the other beats on the album

"backseat freestyle" is one of the less remarkable productions IMO but since it's the only banger it works more than it would if it was just on something like 2 chainz' album or w/e

I listen to "Backseat Freestyle" constantly because of the cadence shifts in the rapping and the components that drop in and out of the beat, especially the "Ooooooh" that comes in when Kendrick starts getting nuts.

"Backseat Freestyle" worked very well as on-repeat getting myself pumped to go out music last night.

Also re the "Eiffel Tower" line, I love how it's balanced out by the line "and I cum too fast, but I never get embarrassed"

BDKMV is just straight-up gorgeous and if you can't see that then ijdk.

^^^ this too

basically I like every song on this a lot, even the one with Drake on it, which also pisses me off but hey

Sometimes I'm not in the mood for that ARANDINGDING sample in "Backseat Freestyle."

I am always in the mood for that sample

"and I cum too fast, but I never get embarrassed"

classic

As far as bangers go I can get behind Backseat Freestyle but something about it rubs me the wrong and I'll try to compose that into a intelligible post:

it's kind of like Kendrick is trying to get away with being ratchet and excessive by passing it off like "this isn't how I am now or anything, I just acted like this in high school" but there's a logical flaw there because like, it's a track he recorded and released in 2012. It's analogous to saying "I don't mean to be racist but..." and then saying something crazy racist. Like you shouldn't get a pass for saying stuff like that cause you preempted it with that tag, if that makes any sense. I really like the song and get its place on the album but that aspect of it is a little ehhh to me.

Well it's not being racist. It's letting go - and the album needs it.

yes ok the racist analogy was extreme but I stand by my sentiment that it's him trying to get away with being, as fennel cartwright said, "braggadocio," even though it seems like a lot of the rest of the album wants to get away from that, under this rouse of "we were such crazy teenagers!"

it's kind of like Kendrick is trying to get away with being ratchet and excessive by passing it off like "this isn't how I am now or anything, I just acted like this in high school"

yall are reading some shit into this that isnt there

yall are reading some shit into this that isnt there

what do you mean? afaik it's pretty universally accepted that the album is a coming of age story with a linear narrative.

and i don't think the song is "letting go" at all - it seems more forced than his other tracks! i find he lets go more on "stoner" tracks like ADHD or BDKMV. the guy is naturally pretty chill and contemplative and i don't think it's very real to him being aggressive like that.

If you don't like the one song on this album that sounds like a rap song then I don't know what

the guy is naturally pretty chill and contemplative and i don't think it's very real to him being aggressive like that.

I dont even ride for this album that hard and this pisses me off.

The whole point of Kendrick Lamar if that he can't be boiled down to easy emotions and expected rap "modes." He's not "the contemplative guy," hes a rapper who can be comfortable being contemplative and aggressive and like 50 other things. Stop trying to make him Tribe Called Quest just because Paste is riding for him or w/e

This is why I'm not so into stressing the concept album / narrative w/ this album.

but there's a logical flaw there because like, it's a track he recorded and released in 2012

¬_¬

Ppl in here trying to treat a rap album like a episode of Firefly or some shit

everyone agrees that its a really really good album though, no? that in itself says a lot about the album. cuz you guys live to disagree.

i like playing it for people who come in my store who have never heard it/heard of him. i don't feel that way about a lot of new things. i feel like it's the kind of thing that can appeal to lots of different people and its still...really good! its true to itself. he's true to himself.

unless i'm missing a patented ilm "eh, i'm not feelin' it" from someone on this thread. i might have missed one.

You missed a couple

there have been a few of those, yes

seemed like standard ilx contrarian stunting for anything that doesnt have one hit wonder glee-pop cachet tho

ilx stans for glee pop? wasn't whiney's complaint the exact opposite?

maybe glee was the wrong adjective for the kind of stuff ilx likes idk

yeah my wish that this was more like the roc marciano and meek mill albums was def me writing a first draft of my "Stan" letter to Skylar Grey

"This is a serious album, ergo it is bad"

"Needs more 'groove is in the heart'"

^^^ most songs need more Groove is in the Heart tbf

no one would have gotten sick of "Stan" if the beat had been built off of "Groove is in the Heart" rather than "Thank You"

"This is a serious album, ergo it is bad"

― fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, November 12, 2012 11:04 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

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The whole point of Kendrick Lamar if that he can't be boiled down to easy emotions and expected rap "modes." He's not "the contemplative guy," hes a rapper who can be comfortable being contemplative and aggressive and like 50 other things. Stop trying to make him Tribe Called Quest just because Paste is riding for him or w/e

yeah ok this is true. I concede my original point, this is definitely my aoty.

there's a lot of flat-out nonsense being talked on this thread, the most egregious of which being the idea that Outkast, the group that did "Player's Ball", "ATLiens" and "Rosa Parks" among others, needed to bring in Raekwon in order to make a "banger"

ahahaha

Haha. otm.

jeez this thread

this album owns tho, back to front

live in Brixton last night:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/events/e8vg9r/acts/a5bp5v

"stuff ilx likes" - endless pop-guilt rabbit hole of theoretical clusterfucks

damn this dude

Jeff Wang says some things.

*Chang

this album and the discourse around it just exhaust me tbh. it's a good and 'important' album, but i do sort of wish it were a little more enjoyable

Kendrick's completely awkward and forgettable verse on "Fucking Problem" kinda reinforces what i feel about "Backseat Freestyle" just not being what i wanna hear from this dude

I just don't hear what others do in "Backseat Freestyle."