Kendrick Lamar will kill your favorite rapper for money

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"and I cum too fast, but I never get embarrassed"

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flopson, Sunday, 11 November 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link

As far as bangers go I can get behind Backseat Freestyle but something about it rubs me the wrong and I'll try to compose that into a intelligible post:

it's kind of like Kendrick is trying to get away with being ratchet and excessive by passing it off like "this isn't how I am now or anything, I just acted like this in high school" but there's a logical flaw there because like, it's a track he recorded and released in 2012. It's analogous to saying "I don't mean to be racist but..." and then saying something crazy racist. Like you shouldn't get a pass for saying stuff like that cause you preempted it with that tag, if that makes any sense. I really like the song and get its place on the album but that aspect of it is a little ehhh to me.

Andrew W, Monday, 12 November 2012 06:54 (eleven years ago) link

Well it's not being racist. It's letting go - and the album needs it.

weak willie (longneck), Monday, 12 November 2012 07:32 (eleven years ago) link

yes ok the racist analogy was extreme but I stand by my sentiment that it's him trying to get away with being, as fennel cartwright said, "braggadocio," even though it seems like a lot of the rest of the album wants to get away from that, under this rouse of "we were such crazy teenagers!"

Andrew W, Monday, 12 November 2012 07:38 (eleven years ago) link

it's kind of like Kendrick is trying to get away with being ratchet and excessive by passing it off like "this isn't how I am now or anything, I just acted like this in high school"

yall are reading some shit into this that isnt there

fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, 12 November 2012 07:55 (eleven years ago) link

yall are reading some shit into this that isnt there

what do you mean? afaik it's pretty universally accepted that the album is a coming of age story with a linear narrative.

and i don't think the song is "letting go" at all - it seems more forced than his other tracks! i find he lets go more on "stoner" tracks like ADHD or BDKMV. the guy is naturally pretty chill and contemplative and i don't think it's very real to him being aggressive like that.

fennel cartwright, Monday, 12 November 2012 11:29 (eleven years ago) link

If you don't like the one song on this album that sounds like a rap song then I don't know what

ya bish called wanda (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 12 November 2012 12:05 (eleven years ago) link

the guy is naturally pretty chill and contemplative and i don't think it's very real to him being aggressive like that.

I dont even ride for this album that hard and this pisses me off.

The whole point of Kendrick Lamar if that he can't be boiled down to easy emotions and expected rap "modes." He's not "the contemplative guy," hes a rapper who can be comfortable being contemplative and aggressive and like 50 other things. Stop trying to make him Tribe Called Quest just because Paste is riding for him or w/e

ya bish called wanda (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 12 November 2012 12:10 (eleven years ago) link

This is why I'm not so into stressing the concept album / narrative w/ this album.

Tim F, Monday, 12 November 2012 12:23 (eleven years ago) link

but there's a logical flaw there because like, it's a track he recorded and released in 2012

¬_¬

r|t|c, Monday, 12 November 2012 12:29 (eleven years ago) link

Ppl in here trying to treat a rap album like a episode of Firefly or some shit

ya bish called wanda (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 12 November 2012 13:01 (eleven years ago) link

everyone agrees that its a really really good album though, no? that in itself says a lot about the album. cuz you guys live to disagree.

i like playing it for people who come in my store who have never heard it/heard of him. i don't feel that way about a lot of new things. i feel like it's the kind of thing that can appeal to lots of different people and its still...really good! its true to itself. he's true to himself.

scott seward, Monday, 12 November 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link

unless i'm missing a patented ilm "eh, i'm not feelin' it" from someone on this thread. i might have missed one.

scott seward, Monday, 12 November 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link

You missed a couple

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 12 November 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link

there have been a few of those, yes

#YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 12 November 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link

seemed like standard ilx contrarian stunting for anything that doesnt have one hit wonder glee-pop cachet tho

fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, 12 November 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link

ilx stans for glee pop? wasn't whiney's complaint the exact opposite?

#YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 12 November 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link

maybe glee was the wrong adjective for the kind of stuff ilx likes idk

fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, 12 November 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

yeah my wish that this was more like the roc marciano and meek mill albums was def me writing a first draft of my "Stan" letter to Skylar Grey

ya bish called wanda (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 12 November 2012 15:59 (eleven years ago) link

"This is a serious album, ergo it is bad"

fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, 12 November 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link

"Needs more 'groove is in the heart'"

fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, 12 November 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link

^^^ most songs need more Groove is in the Heart tbf

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 November 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link

no one would have gotten sick of "Stan" if the beat had been built off of "Groove is in the Heart" rather than "Thank You"

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 12 November 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link

"This is a serious album, ergo it is bad"

― fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, November 12, 2012 11:04 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/472/seriouscatcover.jpg

ya bish called wanda (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 12 November 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

The whole point of Kendrick Lamar if that he can't be boiled down to easy emotions and expected rap "modes." He's not "the contemplative guy," hes a rapper who can be comfortable being contemplative and aggressive and like 50 other things. Stop trying to make him Tribe Called Quest just because Paste is riding for him or w/e

yeah ok this is true. I concede my original point, this is definitely my aoty.

Andrew W, Monday, 12 November 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link

there's a lot of flat-out nonsense being talked on this thread, the most egregious of which being the idea that Outkast, the group that did "Player's Ball", "ATLiens" and "Rosa Parks" among others, needed to bring in Raekwon in order to make a "banger"

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 12 November 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link

ahahaha

ya bish called wanda (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 12 November 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

Haha. otm.

Luchinski pourin' from the sky, let's get rich (what) (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 12 November 2012 21:54 (eleven years ago) link

jeez this thread

max, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

this album owns tho, back to front

max, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

live in Brixton last night:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/events/e8vg9r/acts/a5bp5v

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 16:33 (eleven years ago) link

"stuff ilx likes" - endless pop-guilt rabbit hole of theoretical clusterfucks

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link

damn this dude

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link

*Chang

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 23:03 (eleven years ago) link

this album and the discourse around it just exhaust me tbh. it's a good and 'important' album, but i do sort of wish it were a little more enjoyable

chief beef (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 23:11 (eleven years ago) link

Kendrick's completely awkward and forgettable verse on "Fucking Problem" kinda reinforces what i feel about "Backseat Freestyle" just not being what i wanna hear from this dude

bish don't kill my bosch (some dude), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 23:36 (eleven years ago) link

I just don't hear what others do in "Backseat Freestyle."

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 23:45 (eleven years ago) link

the discourse on the album is all i really need. and i think its totally enjoyable. maybe it just hit me at the right time of year. this month i've played this album a lot, a lot of brahms, and that awesome billy nicholls album, would you believe. and tons of soul 45s. october/november my power months though, so everything i play sounds better than usual.

scott seward, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 23:48 (eleven years ago) link

wow, this meek mill album is NICE

*not trolling, just listening to a stream now*

Raymond Cummings, Thursday, 15 November 2012 02:47 (eleven years ago) link

the discourse around this album doesn't credit it with enjoyability enough. it's more enjoyable than ~important~ imo

#YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 15 November 2012 09:27 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah

Tim F, Thursday, 15 November 2012 10:42 (eleven years ago) link

also blah blah false binary enjoyability vs importance blah

if you don't find it enjoyable it's prob not that important

#YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 15 November 2012 11:32 (eleven years ago) link

also blah blah false binary enjoyability vs importance blah

if you don't find it enjoyable it's prob not that important

― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:32 AM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

True. Rap becomes important through being enjoyable.

*breaks out Can't Touch This*

weak willie (longneck), Thursday, 15 November 2012 12:52 (eleven years ago) link

*breaks out U Can't Touch This*

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 November 2012 13:08 (eleven years ago) link

anything can be important if its important to you.

scott seward, Thursday, 15 November 2012 13:33 (eleven years ago) link

Not a diss, scott. It was just so sublimely nonsensical that I had to post it.

weak willie (longneck), Thursday, 15 November 2012 13:57 (eleven years ago) link

swimming pooooooool full of liquor
and you diiiiiiiiiive in

vote! (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 17 November 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link

how can I reduce the quality of that BBC video? it is taking forever to load.

paula boradwell (crüt), Saturday, 17 November 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link


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