Kendrick Lamar will kill your favorite rapper for money

Drake is obnoxious most of the time but not on that song.

I don't disagree, I'm just a deeply unfair person

I don't really feel the need to be all "drake cooties" if he's not actively being a detriment.

i kinda do

haha my man

(guiltily sneaks off to secretly play "The Motto")

i love kalenna for doing a version of "the motto" so i don't need to listen to the original

i don't really mind drake on "poetic justice" though, he's kind of negligible

"The Motto" is the one song he's done that's actually really fun tho. Also it was completely unavoidable here anyway.

yeah that song is great and the kalenna version was pretty worthless esp compared to the funkystepz remix which does actually render the OG obsolete

i actually like drake more on poetic justice than kendrick, not that its super amazing but its more memorable

"the motto" is great and literally none of that is to do with drake because of his VOICE

drake is fine on "poetic justice" but the verse seems pretty stock & to me it cuts against everything that's great about the kendrick album. that's one of the best tracks on the album tho.

"the motto" is great and literally none of that is to do with drake because of his VOICE

― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, November 28, 2012 4:24 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

so it's what.... just the beat i guess?

After all these weeks the track I play most often is "Sherane." What a banger of an opener.

Drake is an infinitely shittier rapper than Kendrick Lamar, yet I like Take Care much more than M.A.A.D. City. It's a weird thing to reconcile.

so it's what.... just the beat i guess?

partly, but it's all in the delivery too - the rhythm of the vocals and the rhymes. so any version with a voice i can stand and half-decent lines would be better than the original really, it just happens that the kalenna one is the first i came across.

Drake is an infinitely shittier rapper than Kendrick Lamar, yet I like Take Care much more than M.A.A.D. City.

what

Drake is an infinitely shittier rapper than Kendrick Lamar, yet I like Take Care much more than M.A.A.D. City. It's a weird thing to reconcile.

― Evan R, Wednesday, November 28, 2012 4:28 PM (41 seconds ago) Bookmark

hmm i agree w/ this tho i don't think it's that tough to reconcile

I am playing the shit out of "Backseat Freestyle", "The Art of Freestyle" "Swimming Pools (Drank)", "Sing About Me/I'm Dying of Thirst" and "Real"

next playcount tier is "Sherane", "Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe", "good kid", "m.A.A.d city" and "Compton"

I play "Money Trees" and "Poetic Justice" the least but I enjoy them a ton when I do listen to them

I almost never listen to the bonus tracks

no I agree with Evan if he means "m.A.A.d city."

which fortunately has no Drake

the discourse around this album doesn't credit it with enjoyability enough. it's more enjoyable than ~important~ imo

― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, November 15, 2012 3:27 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is why i dont like jeff chang's piece

otm

he also tries to unpack the appeal of the record through its narrative which i think is the Wrong Approach

hmm i agree w/ this tho i don't think it's that tough to reconcile

Maybe not tough. But it's always nice to identify with (or at least kind of like) the figure at the center of an album. So it's weird, or at least unexpected, that for whatever reason I connect more with Drake (who is really off-putting) over Kendrick (who I find very, very likable).

I almost never listen to the bonus tracks

i'm surprised, they're good! esp "collect calls"

xp I think part of it is that, for all its careful construction musically, Take Care is one big splatter of emotion (and often contradictory emotions). Kendrick Lamar is much more controlled in his messaging, which I think creates a distance

The way I have the disks tagged, the bonus tracks come up as a separate album, which I hardly ever play because whenever I think about them some part of my brain goes "A-RING-KING-KING" and I just play "Backseat Freestyle" again

how does "control" create distance?

i think i connect w/ drake as often anyway

xp Lamar is delivering a carefully crafted thesis (and quite a long, complicated one). That's not a bad thing at all, of course, but that approach doesn't lend itself to the same intimacy of one dude rattling off thoughts more or less as they come to him

xp I think part of it is that, for all its careful construction musically, Take Care is one big splatter of emotion (and often contradictory emotions). Kendrick Lamar is much more controlled in his messaging, which I think creates a distance

― Evan R, Wednesday, November 28, 2012 3:43 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so kendrick is biggie and drake is pac

kendrick is gucci and drake is boosie

i think i connect w/ drake as often anyway

what is it about drake you connect to? you mean his persona, not the beats, right?

to me, someone sitting down and crafting a multisong coming-of-age narrative loosely based on his life experiences is much more intimate than someone going "now she got a photo/you already know tho/you only live once/that's the motto nigga, YOLO"

then again, Drake could be doing interconnected narrative confessionals on his albums and I wouldn't know

what is it about drake you connect to? you mean his persona, not the beats, right?

his beautiful brown eyes?

Lamar is delivering a carefully crafted thesis (and quite a long, complicated one). That's not a bad thing at all, of course, but that approach doesn't lend itself to the same intimacy of one dude rattling off thoughts more or less as they come to him

We have to disagree here. I'm more moved by cohesion.

take care is pretty damn cohesive

the production on 'take care' is as good or better than the stuff on good kid btw

drake's eyes are one of his least physically appealing attributes

Take Care is cohesive! Wasn't that one of the defenses last year -- a journey-into-the-dark-night-of-whatever?

a journey into the long dark night of your navel

the production on 'take care' is as good or better than the stuff on good kid btw

yeah, it's hard to overstate this

drake's rapping is just so fucking appalling on that record, ESPECIALLY when he gets all ambitious with a kendrick-lite flow on "hyfr"

like honestly mac miller's album is probably "cohesive" and has "vision" but who gives a fucking fuck

Well obv if the cohesive vision appeals to you, it's going to be a positive

Like if someone did an album that told the story of a man slowly inserting his nuts into a panini press, I would not be interested

yeah honestly i just feel a little betrayed by sarge because he was part of so many great occasions of laughing at drake and at some point he turned a corner of unironic appreciation and i'm like man were you just pretending to make fun of this dude or what?

& IT ALL COMES OUT

and for the record as someone who listened to the mac miller album multiple times: no

yeah honestly i just feel a little betrayed by sarge because he was part of so many great occasions of laughing at drake and at some point he turned a corner of unironic appreciation and i'm like man were you just pretending to make fun of this dude or what?

― trinidad jokes (some dude), Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:01 AM (39 minutes ago)

*sobs*

i always genuinely laughed at drake (and still do!) but he made a really hot album, i'm fine with admitting that. his earlier stuff is still mostly terrible.