Drake is an infinitely shittier rapper than Kendrick Lamar, yet I like Take Care much more than M.A.A.D. City. It's a weird thing to reconcile.
― Evan R, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link
so it's what.... just the beat i guess?
partly, but it's all in the delivery too - the rhythm of the vocals and the rhymes. so any version with a voice i can stand and half-decent lines would be better than the original really, it just happens that the kalenna one is the first i came across.
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 21:29 (eleven years ago) link
Drake is an infinitely shittier rapper than Kendrick Lamar, yet I like Take Care much more than M.A.A.D. City.
what
― Evan R, Wednesday, November 28, 2012 4:28 PM (41 seconds ago) Bookmark
hmm i agree w/ this tho i don't think it's that tough to reconcile
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 November 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link
I am playing the shit out of "Backseat Freestyle", "The Art of Freestyle" "Swimming Pools (Drank)", "Sing About Me/I'm Dying of Thirst" and "Real"
next playcount tier is "Sherane", "Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe", "good kid", "m.A.A.d city" and "Compton"
I play "Money Trees" and "Poetic Justice" the least but I enjoy them a ton when I do listen to them
I almost never listen to the bonus tracks
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 21:31 (eleven years ago) link
no I agree with Evan if he means "m.A.A.d city."
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link
which fortunately has no Drake
the discourse around this album doesn't credit it with enjoyability enough. it's more enjoyable than ~important~ imo
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, November 15, 2012 3:27 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is why i dont like jeff chang's piece
otm
he also tries to unpack the appeal of the record through its narrative which i think is the Wrong Approach
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link
Maybe not tough. But it's always nice to identify with (or at least kind of like) the figure at the center of an album. So it's weird, or at least unexpected, that for whatever reason I connect more with Drake (who is really off-putting) over Kendrick (who I find very, very likable).
― Evan R, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link
i'm surprised, they're good! esp "collect calls"
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 21:41 (eleven years ago) link
xp I think part of it is that, for all its careful construction musically, Take Care is one big splatter of emotion (and often contradictory emotions). Kendrick Lamar is much more controlled in his messaging, which I think creates a distance
― Evan R, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 21:43 (eleven years ago) link
The way I have the disks tagged, the bonus tracks come up as a separate album, which I hardly ever play because whenever I think about them some part of my brain goes "A-RING-KING-KING" and I just play "Backseat Freestyle" again
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link
how does "control" create distance?
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link
i think i connect w/ drake as often anyway
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 November 2012 21:47 (eleven years ago) link
xp Lamar is delivering a carefully crafted thesis (and quite a long, complicated one). That's not a bad thing at all, of course, but that approach doesn't lend itself to the same intimacy of one dude rattling off thoughts more or less as they come to him
― Evan R, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 21:48 (eleven years ago) link
― Evan R, Wednesday, November 28, 2012 3:43 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
so kendrick is biggie and drake is pac
― D-40, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link
kendrick is gucci and drake is boosie
what is it about drake you connect to? you mean his persona, not the beats, right?
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link
to me, someone sitting down and crafting a multisong coming-of-age narrative loosely based on his life experiences is much more intimate than someone going "now she got a photo/you already know tho/you only live once/that's the motto nigga, YOLO"
then again, Drake could be doing interconnected narrative confessionals on his albums and I wouldn't know
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link
his beautiful brown eyes?
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link
Lamar is delivering a carefully crafted thesis (and quite a long, complicated one). That's not a bad thing at all, of course, but that approach doesn't lend itself to the same intimacy of one dude rattling off thoughts more or less as they come to him
We have to disagree here. I'm more moved by cohesion.
take care is pretty damn cohesive
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 November 2012 21:54 (eleven years ago) link
the production on 'take care' is as good or better than the stuff on good kid btw
drake's eyes are one of his least physically appealing attributes
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 21:54 (eleven years ago) link
Take Care is cohesive! Wasn't that one of the defenses last year -- a journey-into-the-dark-night-of-whatever?
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link
a journey into the long dark night of your navel
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 21:56 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, it's hard to overstate this
― Evan R, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link
drake's rapping is just so fucking appalling on that record, ESPECIALLY when he gets all ambitious with a kendrick-lite flow on "hyfr"
― trinidad jokes (some dude), Thursday, 29 November 2012 04:47 (eleven years ago) link
like honestly mac miller's album is probably "cohesive" and has "vision" but who gives a fucking fuck
Well obv if the cohesive vision appeals to you, it's going to be a positive
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, 29 November 2012 04:56 (eleven years ago) link
Like if someone did an album that told the story of a man slowly inserting his nuts into a panini press, I would not be interested
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, 29 November 2012 04:58 (eleven years ago) link
yeah honestly i just feel a little betrayed by sarge because he was part of so many great occasions of laughing at drake and at some point he turned a corner of unironic appreciation and i'm like man were you just pretending to make fun of this dude or what?
― trinidad jokes (some dude), Thursday, 29 November 2012 05:01 (eleven years ago) link
& IT ALL COMES OUT
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 29 November 2012 05:39 (eleven years ago) link
and for the record as someone who listened to the mac miller album multiple times: no
― trinidad jokes (some dude), Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:01 AM (39 minutes ago)
*sobs*
― liljon /bia/ bia (k3vin k.), Thursday, 29 November 2012 05:42 (eleven years ago) link
i always genuinely laughed at drake (and still do!) but he made a really hot album, i'm fine with admitting that. his earlier stuff is still mostly terrible.
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 29 November 2012 05:47 (eleven years ago) link
it's just a really bizarre about-turn to make given that many of the things that made drake intolerable before are still there
the idea of connecting to drake's persona at any time is...i can't even
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 29 November 2012 08:08 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiL2LlH-nxs
Interesting crossover moment between these two dudes. Kendrick more than holds his own here, I don't know whether this track has been pointed out about for all the talk about both them this year.
― MikoMcha, Saturday, 1 December 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link
not gonna lie; i dont like take care like that, but its definitely less obnoxious than his early stuff
― D-40, Saturday, 1 December 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link
xpost the awful "Come right back / hope you insomniac / sleep on me if you wanna take a dirt nap" line in that is the one that always makes me wonder why ppl are riding for kendrick instead of meek
― ra乒乓head (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 1 December 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link
yeah he has so many lines that just totally fall apart the second you start to give them any thought
― susan dey with jigga (some dude), Saturday, 1 December 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link
I actually like the ca-ca-ca-ca lines. Could do without the hydroplane.
― MikoMcha, Saturday, 1 December 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link
5:36 AM - jack: oh my god5:37 AM - jack: i realized i didnt have that album so iwent to d/l5:37 AM - jack: got it off mediafire5:37 AM - jack: unzip and its fucking 100 images of hentai5:37 AM - jack: uhhh fuck whats the best way to hide all of this anime porn.. kendrick lamar..
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Saturday, 1 December 2012 23:12 (eleven years ago) link
good vid, m.A.A.d. titties
― susan dey with jigga (some dude), Saturday, 1 December 2012 23:15 (eleven years ago) link
there is seriously no one better
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Saturday, 1 December 2012 23:28 (eleven years ago) link
god i feel like such a loser/old person/guy who hears 5 rap albums a year but this is completely amazing
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 8 December 2012 00:22 (eleven years ago) link
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:08 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
so connecting to someone who is struggling to find some semblance of connection with other people is impossible? yeah his persona is dick-ish but whatever, no one's gonna change their opinion on aubrey and that's fine
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Saturday, 8 December 2012 00:43 (eleven years ago) link
drake is pretty relateable as far as rappers go, it just doesn't matter if his voice and raps are dookie
― some dude, Saturday, 8 December 2012 02:16 (eleven years ago) link
5:36 AM - jack: oh my god5:37 AM - jack: i realized i didnt have that album so iwent to d/l5:37 AM - jack: got it off mediafire5:37 AM - jack: unzip and its fucking 100 images of hentai5:37 AM - jack: uhhh fuck whats the best way to hide all of this anime porn.. kendrick lamar.. --puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy)
Kendrick the .rar will kill your favorite fapper for funny
― on a clear 乒乓 can see forever (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 8 December 2012 14:11 (eleven years ago) link
on dido's comeback single: http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2012/12/14/167236496/hear-a-new-song-from-dido-featuring-kendrick-lamar?sc=tw&cc=share
― lex pretend, Friday, 14 December 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link