That sounds right. amazing it took 3 albums, though.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 December 2012 21:48 (eleven years ago) link
I want to say that Black Sabbath was sabotaged by Rolling Stone, too, but 1 star reviews for Led Zeppelin is beyond the pale.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 December 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link
page is a great guitarist, every bit as good as hendrix, he does a lot of amazing stuff, in terms of layer guitars and overdubs and the whole UK folk side of playing that hendrix doesn't do
― U.S. State Department, Office of Rare Psych (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, December 3, 2012 4:09 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
hahahahahahahaha
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Monday, December 3, 2012 3:33 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
which part of this is funny bill?
actually i semi-take back the overdubs start, obv hendrix really produced and arranged stuff very cool, but in a different way than page
but the acoustic part of page's playing is very distinct from hendrix and i think v awesome, really the only mainstreaming of the whole 60 uk folk movt, incredible string band, jansch, etc
― U.S. State Department, Office of Rare Psych (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 3 December 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link
And Rolling Stone was the ONLY publication that ever really hated them. Try and find another negative review from 1969-74, you can't! Christgau liked them a lot, they got great reviews in Melody Maker, too. But I guess it shows you how much Rolling Stone meant back then that "bad review in Rolling Stone"="critics hate you."
― Mr. Snrub, Monday, 3 December 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link
Jimmy Page, around whom the Zeppelin revolves, is, admittedly, an extraordinarily proficient blues guitarist and explorer of his instrument's electronic capabilities. Unfortunately, he is also a very limited producer and a writer of weak, unimaginative songs
So dated!
― โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Ronald McDonald Donald McDonald (Mount Cleaners), Monday, 3 December 2012 22:38 (eleven years ago) link
^ all of it. I spit coffee all over my computer screen when i read it.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Monday, 3 December 2012 22:39 (eleven years ago) link
The only way hendrix and that plagiarist page belong in the same sentence is because of a somewhat similar first name. Otherwise the comparison is laughable.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Monday, 3 December 2012 22:40 (eleven years ago) link
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, December 3, 2012 4:49 PM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I would say its about right.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Monday, 3 December 2012 22:41 (eleven years ago) link
i don't think you really spit coffee all over your screen billi'm calling u out
― U.S. State Department, Office of Rare Psych (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 3 December 2012 22:42 (eleven years ago) link
true, i dont drink coffee this late in the day
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Monday, 3 December 2012 22:43 (eleven years ago) link
it's all been a lie :(
― U.S. State Department, Office of Rare Psych (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 3 December 2012 22:44 (eleven years ago) link
are we really doing this again
― Force Boxman (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 3 December 2012 22:44 (eleven years ago) link
Agreed, my thoughts are well documented on the issue. I will abstain.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Monday, 3 December 2012 22:47 (eleven years ago) link
If there's any way Hendrix is comparable to Page it's definitely in the "layers of guitars and overdubs"
― Faster than food (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 3 December 2012 23:14 (eleven years ago) link
yes i recanted that part!
― U.S. State Department, Office of Rare Psych (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 3 December 2012 23:15 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, that's one reason Page was so sloppy live. He was trying to do a lot at once, which was sort of impossible.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 December 2012 23:17 (eleven years ago) link
But I guess it shows you how much Rolling Stone meant back then that "bad review in Rolling Stone"="critics hate you."
― Mr. Snrub, Monday, December 3, 2012 4:52 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I think Zeppelin, and Page in particular, absolutely loved to play up the "critics hate us!" bit. Zep needed to highlight every difference, however minor, between them and their contemporaries. Since critics generally liked the Who, Hendrix, Cream, and the Jeff Beck group, Page exploited the "we were despised!" angle for all it was worth.
― and I scream Fieri Eiffel Tower High (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 3 December 2012 23:52 (eleven years ago) link
the interview/press mtg footage in How the West Was Won is very illuminating in this respect - lots of questions about where Zep stands in relation to the Beatles, for ex.
― Force Boxman (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:02 (eleven years ago) link
ie the press clearly does not understand what Zep is about at all
― Force Boxman (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:03 (eleven years ago) link
True, but the mainstream press in the early 70s was as clueless about rock as the mainstream press was in the 50s and 60s. The Beatles were asked where they stand in relation to Elvis, so since the primary (or only) point of reference for mainstream journalists in the 70s was the Beatles, that's what they asked Zep about.
Also, just found out they're going to be on Letterman tonight (being interviewed, not playing).
― and I scream Fieri Eiffel Tower High (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:49 (eleven years ago) link
http://a57.foxnews.com/global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/U.S./660/371/Kennedy%20Center%20Honors_Cala.jpg
― Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 01:27 (eleven years ago) link
who's going to buy the remasters (w/"new" bonus trax)?
― Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 01:32 (eleven years ago) link
Depends how much rare stuff there is. I have this box (Amazon had it on sale for like $50 one day so I jumped at it) but if they were all expanded to 2CD sets with studio leftovers or maybe even previously unreleased live stuff, I might go for 'em.
― 誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 01:38 (eleven years ago) link
i might get them just to have the original albums in proper song order on CD (I own the vinyl and the first box set which has great sequencing, but i'd rather hear the records as they were released)
― Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 01:42 (eleven years ago) link
i hope they do vinyl reissues with 1/2 speed stan ricker masters like they did for the mothership box
― U.S. State Department, Office of Rare Psych (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 01:43 (eleven years ago) link
I have the same box as 誤訳侮辱, and like him I might pony up again depending on the bonus stuff. I have so many amazing bootlegs that I'd love to see cleaned up and authorized.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 02:04 (eleven years ago) link
sorry for posting that kennedy center honors group picture twice...forgot i posted it last night.
― Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 02:49 (eleven years ago) link
Figured bump would be for this: http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/posts/la-et-ms-led-zeppelin-to-appear-on-letterman-monday-night-20121201,0,4849323.story
― billstevejim, Saturday, December 1, 2012 7:06 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I'd be more excited if they were playing instead of sitting on a couch.
― EZ Snappin, Saturday, December 1, 2012 7:12 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark
ugh, got all hyped for a second there
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 03:30 (eleven years ago) link
it'd be hilarious if they played and paul joined in
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 03:38 (eleven years ago) link
all doing a boogie woogie version of the beginning of "no quarter"
― U.S. State Department, Office of Rare Psych (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 03:39 (eleven years ago) link
Dave asking 'em about "Sonny Boy Williams" - awkward
― Faster than food (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 05:09 (eleven years ago) link
Was great seeing them on TV goofing and seemingly happy but...why? They didn't hype the new CD/DVD (Dave did) and there was no talk of working together again whether as Zep or something else. So why'd they do this? Curious.
― That elusive North American wood-ape (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 05:43 (eleven years ago) link
I mean...I would've expected Plant to hop on the first plane to Kashmir after the Kennedy Center stuff was over since he seems the most reluctant to hang around the ghost of LZ. So it was strange seeing them all chummy and stuff. I guess I have some little spark of hope in me these fuckers will announce something soon haha.
― That elusive North American wood-ape (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 05:46 (eleven years ago) link
there are to be further reissues? would be much much more excited about new rarities released than a reunion tour...
― "Hahahaha, nice one, Punchy," I said. (stevie), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 07:37 (eleven years ago) link
Robert Plant has a great "can you believe how rich I got doing this shit?" look on his face the entire time. Jimmy Page was pretentious. John Paul Jones was, I dunno, thinking about the sessions he has to do in the valley tomorrow morning or whatever it is he does.
― Everything You Like Sucks, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 08:24 (eleven years ago) link
I dunno - they seemed like the same dudes you see in old interviews. Jimmy's not pretentious. He's just flash.
― That elusive North American wood-ape (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
yeah Jimmy's kind of in-his-own-world/eccentric, but I wouldn't call him pretentious.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link
what are these new bonus tracks/remasters ye speak of
― Force Boxman (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link
that It Might Get Loud movie was really stupid but Jimmy easily the most likable/goofy/cool of the three
― Force Boxman (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link
Jimmy said in his Rolling Stone interview that he's remastering the entire catalog and trawling (or trolling, as we may find is the case) the vaults; there is apparently tons of unreleased studio and live recordings that may see the light of day starting next fall/winter.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:15 (eleven years ago) link
I just hope St. Louis 1975 finds its way to a remastered format sometime in the future. That bootleg is hot fire.
xp Yeah that movie was ridiculous. And The Edge and Jack White easily waaaay more pretentious than Jimmy Page. I think I could watch an entire docu of Page just talking about music etc. without him playing one lick of guitar.
― That elusive North American wood-ape (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link
Best part of that film is him playing "Rumble" on 45, beaming smile from ear to ear and bobbing his head. I'd watch a movie that was just him playing records for the camera.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link
yeah I had no idea how likeable he was until I saw that doc. -- the rest of it was p much garbage, for sure.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, it was a really bad documentary but mostly worth it just to watch Page air-guitar to Rumble like a giddy school boy learning his first song.
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link
the thing that really blew me away was that he spent 3/4 of that documentary talking about his life *before* he even joined Led Zeppelin. When it was laid out like that, it was kind of astounding what a rich life, musically, he led.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:57 (eleven years ago) link
I actually kind of want to see that now.
― and I scream Fieri Eiffel Tower High (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:59 (eleven years ago) link
it's 100% worth it for jimmy. Edge is okay. White is just kind of, I dunno. I normally like him, and I've heard interviews where he's relaxed and cool but he was embarrassingly pretentious in It Might Get Loud.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 18:01 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, Jack White came across as completely artificial in the doc. The Edge was mostly "look at me, I might possibly still be relevant!" Page seemed to be the only one who had fine things to say about music and guitar. Also, I love that he's a super-sloppy guitarist and doesn't even try to hide it.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link
there were parts of Edge that were okay, where he went back to the room where they played their first gig, and some of the early archive footage was p cool
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, The Edge's bits about going back to Dublin where the band formed were kinda cool. The stuff with him hanging around in his practice room playing "Get On Your Boots" a zillion different ways was a drag.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 18:09 (eleven years ago) link