Kylie Minogue: Classic or Dud?

I would say NOTADUD for 'Confide in me' and that video where she gets naked in a Barberella stylee.

But not classic

Here's a question: a lot of people I know who classify themselves as pop fans don't particularly care for Kylie, while a lot of indie fans I know overrate her. Did her Nick Cave/Manics collabs ruin her for the pop set with her annoying "realness"?

Next up has got to the Traci Lords: Classic or Dud, except I fear I'm the only person round here with her album ;)

And deservedly so, since Memento is much more fun than anything Kylie has done lately.

On the attractiveness front: I've always found her terribly UNattractive, actually. I never understood that. I like her for her music and NOWT ELSE. She just looks a bit...I don't know, nostrilly and she's very, very tiny.

Years ago she did not have big lips. Her right eyebrow did not touch her hairline like it does now, it was actually lower than the left one if you look at pics! Her boobs miraculously grew when she was seeing Micheal Hutchence, and her bum doesn't have a crease on it!!! Every bum has creases when you stand up. I dont rate her music either. I agree Better than the Devil you Know was OK, but her recent efforts such as at the Brit awards when she had her ar*e hanging out again, she wanted to be 'cool' by mixing her song with Blue Monday. SOoooo wasn't good.

She is an overrated, plastic, old tart who wants to get some clothes on and give women dignity, not make them look like they are gagging for it. Hopefully she'll go BACK out of fashion, AND SOON!!!!!!!

kylie's GREAT, CONSTANTLY OVERLOOKED single: what do i have to do?!

kylie overall: classic. since when has it been about 'artistry' and 'singing'? i'm shocked that this stuff has come up.

that's what i want - hologram pop stars.

YES!

It's amazing how Kylie jumped from my bad books into my good books with such a minute shift in style from the last album.

Both of their music style's is of course not their own, but Britney has this 'thing' about her that makes you want to watch her. She does actually look like what she does in the photos. And when people go on and on, criticising her about wearing skimpy stuff - we have to remember she is only 20 and has to entertain. However, Kylie is nearly 34 and is still prancing around like an old slut with her plastic, pinned up arse and nobody says a word!!! When are the papers gonna see sense and slate her for the old tart she is!!! She is revelling in all of this attention she is getting, and its about time it stopped! OK, Spears is rumoured to have had a boob-job (and propbably has), but when do you see them hanging out of her top, like the goofy- toothed dwarfs??? Those pics from her Fever tour are ridiculous. Her boobs are pushed up sooooooo much, you can see the plastic popping out of the flesh!!! And have you noticed that there's not a smile from the pop- pixie? She is just looking down on herself, revelling in her plasticness. I dont know, I think the country has been brainwashed. It was that song 'Cant get you out of my head' that done it. It must have had some kind of subliminal message saying "MEN: You will all adore Kylie - she is the perfect image of woman; and WOMEN: You will all not care that your men fantasise about Kylie every night in her hotpants, you must love her and want to be her".

Well, I think I must have been one of the few that escaped her propaganda tactics!

Is there anybody else out there??????????????????

Thank god she got rid of the bad perm and reinvented herself....

i'm not really sure but this sounds like either an orgy or a k hole on the dance floor, maybe it's both?

"I didn't come to hold up the walls
I’m going deeper, deeper
Six deep in the bathroom stalls
A different creature, yeah
Why walk when you can crawl?"

the lyrics in this are so evocative, just the right amount of darkness and dedication to partying, i feel blessed that she had this rolling around in her at 56 lol. and blessed madonna's production is sublime of course. they're perfect together. an album if it happened could be incredible. as it is i'm just glad we got this one. agree that "my oh my" was weak sauce.

i still like it mind

def one of Kylie's better collabs. absolutely wild that she's 56 btw it's a very difficult proposition to pull off being a pop star of a *certain age* and not look ridiculous but she manages it better than almost anyone else.

I'm not one of those people who obsessively plays new tracks over and over again within a short space of time, but DAMN I am OBSESSED with this. Everything about it - production, lyrics, vibe - feels precision-tooled to be my personal catnip, and the thought of playing it out tomorrow night is a serious thrill; I know exactly where it's going to sit within the set.

(Yeah, it's alright.)

11:59?

i had a vision of playing it right before midnight and then jumping into "100% pure love" by crystal waters

this is so good i love it

The penny's dropped with 100% Pure Love!

Really into it also. It’s a Raye joint, which you can really hear in the middle eight. I think there’s a version with her vocals on it that the Blessed Madonna was playing live. Not sure how Kylie ended up on it exactly but it’s fun to hear her doing something like this.

The lyrics are also very Raye

That one-note chuggy section immediately reminded me of Boris Brejcha: Up Down Jumper, which I always play with the acappella from Texas Hold 'Em on top (get the two together in the right place, and it just sounds wonderful).

Lo and behold, it's the same note, same key, same rhythm, just 5bpm apart. So it's a Beyonce > Kylie mix for me tonight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNe7OrleTlg

the verse sounds very gaga

there is a proper video now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8lPeWRBLvE

😎

they were in ibiza a few weeks back, i think that's where a lot of the footage is from?

Played it out tonight, and Oh My God it landed hard, epic scenes etc. The sonics at volume are exquisite.

awesome. yeah it sounds incredible. that sweet spot where it's loud but also deep and clear. i also played it out last night. most people didn't seem to know it yet but it went over well. kylie doesn't really register with my crowd. doja cat on the other hand... the little shits. i kid. kind of.

little tease of "lights camera action" on her insta has me EXCITED, brings to mind gaga x charli.. "tension ii" out 10/18!!!

oh dude i was coming here to post this just now

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DAF8pUjN7zC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAVqr8hwjVY

damn that rules

^^^

extended mix necessary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88Oj7p0ZGPk

song of the year tbh

drag queens around the world are rejoicing

The run she’s on is absolutely insane tbh

massive

why in the world is an extended mix less than 4 mins long ;_;

Her last three albums have all been LP length with later Extended Mixes versions that are an hour long

https://i.imgur.com/M1f5ruX.png

This single is so good and it's one of her best videos in a long time.

Crazy to think this decade alone she's put out Say Something, Magic, Padam Padam, Tension, Hold On To Now, Edge Of Saturday Night and now this. All instant classic singles that would add to her already incredible back catalogue. I don't know how she does it.

https://i.imgur.com/WbqIDvP.png

Nice

The new album seems quite slight, especially with the songs being so short, but there's some great stuff here. It definitely works better as an album if you stop it after Edge Of Saturday Night.

should I go see her live next year? still quite a few seats available

Do it! I’m going.

I’m going too! I don’t think she has toured around the US in over a decade.

btw the new album is 13 songs in 36:47, so it does seem like there was an effort to keep all the songs extra short

On one listen “Hello” is a bit too much of a padam rewrite but the rest of the new tracks are fun

this album is *almost* all bangers, the Sia track is kinda generic and the Orville Peck collab is more just fun than it is really good. everything else is the good shit.

the sia track does sound written in 5 minutes but it fits the vibe and I think it works better as a Kylie featuring sia song than the other way around. has grown on me.

I kind of want to hear the Orville song with just Kylie doing all the parts

i don't think the Sia track is bad or anything, in fact it's better than i thought it would be considering the takes i read here and there.

i actually really like Hello a lot -- once it kicks in properly around the 30 second mark it starts killing it.

this is a really cohesive album, up thru EOSN. It does sound like a very skilled attempt at capturing the "Padam Padam" lightning in a bottle with almost every track being under 3 min and several of them having a *really* similar style, and it feels more like a bonus album than a real major statement, but in that capacity it's really impressive. There are plenty of people out there who seem to prefer this to Tension itself, and while I'm definitely not one of them, I can understand the perspective.

It’s definitely has a “mini-album” or “bonus album” vibes, and I can see how the previously released collab tracks at the end feels like further “bonus tracks”. But you are right the fact that it doesn’t take itself too seriously or try to do much is one of its strengths.

I'm underwhelmed by this, but I never got much enjoyment from Padam Padam so no surprise that what is essentially a Padam Padam-knockoff extended EP/mini LP is not rising to the top.

just heard the extended version of tension ii (was only available for a few days on her website, you can find it on YouTube at least for now) and a lot of the songs breathe better at 3-4 minutes with longer intros and breakdowns. Not sure they all need the extended touch, but it does make them slightly trackier/closer to classic extended disco tracks. There are random times where the instrumental breakdown happens in the middle of the second verse / before the second chorus, but otherwise worth checking out.