― Andrew, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
I personally am utterly fascinated by Creed for boring political reasons: that they sold umpteen albums out of the trunks of cars in a Eazy E stylee, that their popularity actually rose up organically (I worked with teenagers who had the albums before "Higher" had charted or even been noticed by radio; Creed was uniquely their band). Musically...well, what can one say? Let's hear it, then!
― John Darnielle, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
i don't believe i haf evah heard a note by creed
― mark s, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Chris, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― jess, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Nicole, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Ronan, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
But that sounds cool, Jess! And Scott Stapp would never do something that cool.
It's tough to separate Creed from their recent output, though, with their messianic posing and uplifting message. Gimme some of that Old Testament whips & chains action (cf. "My Own Prison"). By the way, the acoustic version of "My Own Prison" that made the rounds here in New England a couple years back trumps every attempt by Alice in Chains to get in touch with their soft dark underbelly. AND, comparing "Higher" w/ "My Sacrifice", one might get the sense that they're mailing it in - some barely inperceptible capitulation to the Pop gods. Maybe that's because both songs feature the same sort of rising action.
One thing that isn't disputable - their cover art is wretched. I am amazed they're selling CDs featuring pics of the 3 Creedsters' visages set in the bark of a tree.
― Daver, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Yeah, if you like HORRIBLE.
― Ally, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― The Hegemon, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
I can get behind that.
― Dan Perry, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― gareth, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― your null fame, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Neither Livingstone nor other missionaries had much impact on the slave trading which went on between the interior and the East coast. They failed to convert any significant numbers of Muslims to Christianity. Livingstone's well-intentioned call for colonisation as an antidote to the horrors of slavery, paved the way for a host of missionaries and speculators to follow in his footsteps and cause immense hardship for the people of southern Africa."
- from The Story of Africa
Your typical creed fans....
― J-hn D-hl-m, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Seriously I think Dealing With Creed is the imperative task facing those of us who think/write about pop music. Although it's hard to confront Creed directly, because yes, they do suck.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
I say Creed=real pop, though a poster above is right in noting that that doesn't mean anybody "has" to like it: but certainly when the consumers of Bootylicious are generally agreed that Creed is better, then "our" own understanding of these musics may reasonably be thought to be one somehow apart from the pop understanding
This is ultimately a question about perceived audiences and our relation thereto, which means it's mark s's baby
That's my take on the psychology of it. I could be completely wrong, could be projecting, but I would think that's the dynamic at work here. I can't recall a single note of the band's music so I can't say how godawful they truly are. I may have seen them on some awards show or something. Frankly, I have zero interest in them and their press/image/marketing is completely unattractive to me. But the fact that they're pretty much the lone grunge holdout right now is rather... interesting.
― Shaky Mo Collier, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
what do you mean ppl who LIVE pop? i tht that was like rod stewart and christine aguilera?
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
i'm a bit loth to believe that creed have solved this problem by arriving fully armed on the ordinary xtian side, unless their pop gift is genuinely stupendous (but i've never heard a note so maybe it is)
― cuba libre (nathalie), Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Scott Stapp is no Jim Steinman, alas.
Become rockist aged 14
Start defending prog aged 16
― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
there are endless threads debating the meaning of rockism in the archives: i am sorry i am v.old, so it peppers my sentences unbidden, like the pox scars of a syphilis contracted in my youth in a pirate barque in the south china seas ho-hum
I'm getting out of my league here, discussing a band I only know peripherally...
anyway, like i say, could you two please argue with EACH OTHER as you are claiming completely totally opposite and contradictory things abt creed; I REITERATE I HAVE NEVER HEARD A NOTE BY THEM!!
thank you bg for giving me something to be thankful for this year
― Saddo Wannabe (rip van wanko), Monday, 19 November 2018 21:55 (five years ago) link
Cool, I'd been looking for the musical equivalent of drdoomcrying.jpg.
― My mother set great store by that microwave oven! (Old Lunch), Monday, 19 November 2018 22:39 (five years ago) link
stapp's fist-pump gesture after the angel's departure just kills me every time
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 19 November 2018 22:50 (five years ago) link
the moment in its full glory (all praise to Him, of course) is here, at 1:12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prLQhRYh_Ls
― Karl Malone, Monday, 19 November 2018 22:53 (five years ago) link
not to actually the tweet, but
that's not even the best part of that performance pic.twitter.com/1thBAYil5R— Zach Scott (@weinventyou) November 19, 2018
― Karl Malone, Monday, 19 November 2018 23:02 (five years ago) link
while it was unfolding live i couldn't believe what i was seeing. cheerleaders, a tot with a salvation army kettle, a gospel choir, a bunch of Ed Kowalczyks flying through the air on sashes, Scott Stapp #11 and his ill-prepared lip-syncing.
I doubt there's a pop culture time capsule that better explains the immediate post-9/11 era and atmosphere of the U.S.
― omar little, Monday, 19 November 2018 23:12 (five years ago) link
Idgi... it’s just a dude doing aerial silks?
― rb (soda), Monday, 19 November 2018 23:12 (five years ago) link
yeah, my partner and i were just talking about that. it is incredibly over-the-top nov 2001
― Karl Malone, Monday, 19 November 2018 23:20 (five years ago) link
idg how this is any different from every other stupid superbowl halftime show
― Οὖτις, Monday, 19 November 2018 23:25 (five years ago) link
it's that, but up for six days on meth
― Saddo Wannabe (rip van wanko), Monday, 19 November 2018 23:34 (five years ago) link
xp Owl City is def way worse than Creed wtf
At least Creed is lulz
― billstevejim, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 09:51 (five years ago) link
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/828/665/533.jpghttps://pre00.deviantart.net/19ae/th/pre/f/2010/139/2/a/can_you_take_me_higher_by_dark_amy_rose.png
― My mother set great store by that microwave oven! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 11:24 (five years ago) link
look I share your antipathy toward halftime shows (except the Prince one) but shirtless flying dude taking wing past Scott Stap singing "Higher" in a Dallas Cowboys jersey and fistpumping ascends his bald angel ascends to the upper air of the stadium, if you can't see how that's special then you need to get higher
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 12:45 (five years ago) link
*as his bald angel ascends
stapp looks a lot like kenny loggins. i sort of always knew that but didn't really.
it's that, but up for six days on meth― Saddo Wannabe (rip van wanko), Monday, November 19, 2018 11:34 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Saddo Wannabe (rip van wanko), Monday, November 19, 2018 11:34 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
not to nitpick but he looks a lot more like he's on downers to me. his lukewarm performance and the fact that he looks like a blurry character in a mcnaughton painting is what makes the aerial stunting so embarrassing imo.
― macropuente (map), Wednesday, 21 November 2018 02:54 (five years ago) link
when he puts his arms out to his sides and sashays around he looks like a figure skater.
the "christian" and the "rock" and the b+ theater are a perfect storm of camp
― macropuente (map), Wednesday, 21 November 2018 02:58 (five years ago) link
i can't believe i'm dissecting a creed super bowl video
― macropuente (map), Wednesday, 21 November 2018 02:59 (five years ago) link
i'm right here with you for this
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 21 November 2018 02:59 (five years ago) link
well, um... huh.https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/tv-film/9501073/scott-stapp-frank-sinatra-ronald-reagan-biopic/
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 17 December 2020 17:19 (three years ago) link
Everything about this sounds awesome. A Reagan biopic starring Real Hollywood Conservatives Dennis Quaid and Jon Voight, with Scott Stapp as Frank Sinatra, directed by the guy who made the Bratz movie, two Casper sequels, and 3 Ninjas: High Noon at Mega Mountain starring Hulk Hogan. (The latter having the distinction, per Wikipedia, of being "the worst of the four" in the 3 Ninjas franchise.)
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 17 December 2020 20:55 (three years ago) link
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https://www.villagevoice.com/2023/02/14/creed-the-musical-not-an-unserious-production-by-unserious-people/
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 20:54 (one year ago) link
should be more plays/movies where Scott Stapp goes to jail imo
― waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 21:45 (one year ago) link
let's go there
― ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 17:55 (seven months ago) link
has anyone here played creed on a jukebox as a joke?
― ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 17:56 (seven months ago) link
this thread should only be updated with clips and gifs of that halftime show performance
― ivy., Tuesday, 30 January 2024 17:58 (seven months ago) link
https://cdn.substack.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/6191dfb6-e20f-42c2-9544-1f0edabe6a27_352x262.gif
― omar little, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 18:08 (seven months ago) link
thank you omar
― ivy., Tuesday, 30 January 2024 18:09 (seven months ago) link
@medranothelion1 year ago
Love or hate Creed, you can't deny that after the attack, this performance was what we needed to start healing. Creed were heroes on this days.
― omar little, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 18:14 (seven months ago) link
there's something abt Stapp's performance which really reminds me of some extremely bad acting you might see on a basic cable tv show, from an actor who knows he's very good looking and just every single look and expression is an overemphatic and false, just an absolute masterclass in unctuousness.
― omar little, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 18:20 (seven months ago) link
I interviewed Stapp and Tremonti (and their producer, John Kurzweg) some years ago, when their debut album turned 20. They were all nice guys, and interesting to talk to.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 18:38 (seven months ago) link
xp Lorenzo Lamas
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 20:42 (seven months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwDNSCsD8w8
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 20:53 (seven months ago) link
I saw Creed live once. it wasn't necessarily "on purpose", because they were opening for Metallica (very odd lineup of Sevendust, Kid Rock, Creed, then...Tallica). he did some bullshit spiritual philosophy crap between each song.
but, at the time, they only had two albums, and...I still kinda like My Own Prison, so...it wasn't the worst thing I ever heard.
well...except for the lyrics. and Stapp
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 22:52 (seven months ago) link
back in I think 1999, when Yahoo was still doing live chats with bands where you could log in and submit your questions and listen to the audio of them answering, I asked Scott what he thought of his comparisons to Eddie Vedder, and he said "Oh I kick his ass completely, he doesn't even do the same voice on any of his albums", and giggling about how awesome he was vocally.
someone snuck in the question "what Creed song would be on the compilation 'crap songs of our time'" and then Stapp got mad that the moderator let that one through
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 23:01 (seven months ago) link
then he answered "none because Creed is not crap you see"
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 23:02 (seven months ago) link
On July 19, 2023, the band announced that they had reunited and would be headlining the Summer of '99 cruise in April 2024. On October 30, 2023 the band announced The Summer of '99 Tour, with more than 40 shows across the US for the first time in 12 years with special guests 3 Doors Down as direct support on a majority of the tour, with Finger Eleven, Daughtry, Switchfoot, Tonic and Big Wreck joining the band on select dates.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creed_(band)
With any luck, the ship will hit an iceberg.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 23:22 (seven months ago) link
3 Doors Down will donate $5 to the military every time they boff a chord change
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 23:29 (seven months ago) link
haha who the fuck is finger eleven
― ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 23:58 (seven months ago) link
Nabbed $28 presale tickets to the Southern California stop. ("Summer of $19.99" deal) I'm pretty stoked.
― DT, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 06:27 (seven months ago) link
I don't know a lot about Finger Eleven, but I do know that the band's original name was
Rainbow Butt Monkeys
and that Paralyzer (2007) was a huge hit in Canada and can still be heard on Canadian radio quite frequently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJk6gZuPKRE
― Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Monday, 29 April 2024 04:32 (four months ago) link
two months pass...
OK so I'm not great at keeping up with my bookmarks.
― Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Monday, 29 April 2024 04:34 (four months ago) link
With any luck, the ship will hit an iceberg.― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, January 30, 2024 5:22 PM (two months ago)
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, January 30, 2024 5:22 PM (two months ago)
Haha, I knew someone who shelled out for the cruise. He shared vids & pics on FB all weekend.
So...many...wallet chains.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 29 April 2024 04:39 (four months ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/xwl392s.gif
― c u (crüt), Monday, 29 April 2024 04:45 (four months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHKGlumSuAA
― papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 29 April 2024 05:35 (four months ago) link
oh they posted a version that wasn't ripped from the stream in potato quality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fdKfaq1YN8
― papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 29 April 2024 05:38 (four months ago) link
lol that photo
― dyl, Monday, 29 April 2024 05:42 (four months ago) link
i encountered "my sacrifice" in public for the first time in who knows how long the other day