RFI: Yellow Magic Orchestra

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I think Naughty Boys is the album where YMO really found their sound. It's also a lot more cohesive than the grab-bag of BGM. I don't think of them as sounding like Kraftwerk at all by '83 and '84. It's shiny, happy synth-pop.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Thursday, 2 November 2006 07:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Technodelic seems to get seriously short shrift

It's great! "Epilogue" should reduce many a grown man to sobbing.

LC (Damian), Thursday, 2 November 2006 12:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Zachary, you should check out "Insomnia" off Solid State Survivor. Patrick's right in that by Naughty Boys (and Service before it), the band doesn't really have the Japanese Kraftwerk thing going on at all, though I'm not sure with his belief that it's their "best" era or where they found their sound. It's just different, more overtly pop.

with "Taiso" birthing Nick Rhodes perhaps even more than Richard Barbieri ever could

Clearly I meant "Light in Darkness" here.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 2 November 2006 13:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, does anyone know a good comp of theirs with rarities (single mixes, etc.)? I was eyeballing Overseas Collection with some envy, but that's utterly impossible to find for anyone outside of Japan. Likewise for Techno Bible...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 2 November 2006 16:52 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...

can someone recommend some other Haruomi Hosono projects aside from YMO (solo or otherwise)?

amateurist, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 14:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Haruomi Hosono

damo tsu tsuki (r1o natsume), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 14:52 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Paraiso is really good. Tropical music with a bizarre electronic twist. Very odd and affecting, and quite catchy as well.
Cochin Moon is an early electronic classic. Really neat stuff.
His Nokto de la Galaskia Fervojo soundtrack is chilling, it's minimal (as is a lot of Hosono's stuff) but very cold and moving. Love it.

frogbs, Monday, 15 November 2010 19:26 (fourteen years ago) link

so glad this was revived. just found a mediafire folder with all the albums and needed some guidance.

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 15 November 2010 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

really loving these stripped down live versions YMO have been playing this year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NTnIJ61z1w

missingNO, Saturday, 25 December 2010 03:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Love the synth trumpet!

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 26 December 2010 17:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Whoah, YMO doing "Thank You For Talkin' to Me Africa"!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWPbDsPYxZM&feature=related

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 26 December 2010 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEZ3VxGWwjM

excellent video (if you can ignore the camera effects). kinda weird to see a shorthaired 70's Hosono funking out by himself. they really did keep it tight though.

frogbs, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 12:23 (twelve years ago) link

five months pass...

amazing find

original bgm, Monday, 1 April 2013 00:20 (eleven years ago) link

i think cindy crawford is in one of those!!

frogbs, Monday, 1 April 2013 02:10 (eleven years ago) link

hah, she is! I caught her posing dramatically with a piano while randomly skipping around.

original bgm, Monday, 1 April 2013 04:38 (eleven years ago) link

Somebody really needs to write me a good, thorough examination on YMO and the Japanese New Wave (400 pages at least). I like the process of rooting around and finding out little bits and pieces of information but I need some cultural CONTEXT dammit!

Late night with Amazing Bo (MaresNest), Monday, 1 April 2013 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

I'm thinking that Nick Kent (the guy who runs technopop.info) could probably do something like that. YMO are interesting enough to warrant their own book but Japan is such a small country that all that stuff really ran into each other at some point. Like there's 3 degrees of seperation between pretty much every one of those bands. Most of it is probably through Harry Hosono, who seemingly appeared on everything that came out of Japan from 1976 to 1990 or so.

frogbs, Monday, 1 April 2013 17:42 (eleven years ago) link

Too true, Hosono is a walking infographic.

Late night with Amazing Bo (MaresNest), Monday, 1 April 2013 17:50 (eleven years ago) link

a book like that would leapfrogbs to the very top of my reading list, for real

your holiness, we have an official energy drink (Z S), Monday, 1 April 2013 17:51 (eleven years ago) link

it's weird how popular ymo seem to be when reading about them, but every time i've asked a native japanese if they've heard of them, they haven't. maybe it's a generational thing?

君ちゃん (clouds), Monday, 1 April 2013 18:16 (eleven years ago) link

I've experienced this a couple of times with some Japanese aged under thirty or so, although they seem to know Sakamoto for some reason.

What's interesting is that if they are aware of YMO they're often interested that a westerner would be bothered listening to 'old' Japanese music, or even Japanese music period.

Late night with Amazing Bo (MaresNest), Monday, 1 April 2013 19:19 (eleven years ago) link

yeah it seems like japanese don't have the same retromania that americans do, but i have no idea really

君ちゃん (clouds), Monday, 1 April 2013 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

Somebody really needs to write me a good, thorough examination on YMO and the Japanese New Wave (400 pages at least). I like the process of rooting around and finding out little bits and pieces of information but I need some cultural CONTEXT dammit!

― Late night with Amazing Bo (MaresNest), Monday, April 1, 2013 5:42 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I've not felt the urge to write about music much over the last few years, but I *really really* want to write a longform piece on Jun Togawa. Never going to happen without a rudimentary knowledge of Japanese, though.

emil.y, Monday, 1 April 2013 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

If you want to blow the mind of a 40+ Japanese person, tell 'em you love Ippu-Do or Guernica.

Late night with Amazing Bo (MaresNest), Monday, 1 April 2013 19:43 (eleven years ago) link

I know a lot of big music nerds who have no idea who Kraftwerk are, for instance...some people just don't really care about anything older than they are

frogbs, Monday, 1 April 2013 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

You know, I heard an phone interview on Resonance last week with Akiko Yano (interspersed with some of her music), it was a show called Clear Spot. Maybe you could speak directly to Jun herself? If she speaks Eigo of course.

Late night with Amazing Bo (MaresNest), Monday, 1 April 2013 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

emily - have you read this?
http://www.groundzeromongkok.com/2010/12/memory-and-gender-in-music-of-jun.html

frogbs, Monday, 1 April 2013 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

oops, XP

Late night with Amazing Bo (MaresNest), Monday, 1 April 2013 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

Frogs, yeah, it's a good piece (and I love the toilet ad it links to), but I want more! I guess really I want something book-length, with a really good biographical content as well as analysis.

emil.y, Monday, 1 April 2013 19:51 (eleven years ago) link

basically, a book version of this would be the most amazing thing:
http://park10.wakwak.com/~techno/jgenealogy.html

original bgm, Monday, 1 April 2013 21:53 (eleven years ago) link

and yeah, togawa is really fascinating. would read all of these imaginary books.

original bgm, Monday, 1 April 2013 21:54 (eleven years ago) link

Wow - I need to hear that Akiko Yano Resonance show.

That elusive North American wood-ape (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 1 April 2013 23:49 (eleven years ago) link

CJV - I imagine it'll turn up in the Resonance 104 Soundcloud page if you check there in the next few days.

Late night with Amazing Bo (MaresNest), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 12:37 (eleven years ago) link

Japan is such a small country

It is?

Step not on a loose unforgiving stone on a pyramid to paradise (Tom D.), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 14:42 (eleven years ago) link

Not in terms of population, but in size - like in the US, in the 70's you had the Detroit scene, and the New York scene, and the Nashville scene, and the Chicago sound...in Japan it kinda feels like everybody knew each other and played on each others' records.

frogbs, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 14:59 (eleven years ago) link

Of course theres no book about any of this so I'm just guessing here. Didn't Takahashi and Hosono produce or otherwise appear on all the YEN records stuff, which made up a large portion of Japan's new wave scene?

frogbs, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 15:01 (eleven years ago) link

five months pass...

http://chinmai.net/~ichiyanagi/img/060403/ymo.jpg

many machines on ilx (MaresNest), Sunday, 29 September 2013 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YjYEJ9WHt4

many machines on ilx (MaresNest), Thursday, 24 October 2013 21:54 (eleven years ago) link

awesome!

clouds, Friday, 25 October 2013 13:59 (eleven years ago) link

(cuts off halfway through, but you get the idea)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkPeDQKRpEk

not a lunch that is hot (snoball), Friday, 25 October 2013 14:28 (eleven years ago) link

The syndrum break in that BBC version is proper!

MaresNest, Friday, 25 October 2013 15:28 (eleven years ago) link

eight months pass...
three months pass...

Confession, I have gone since about 1998 thinking that the record is called 'X∞Multiples' but it's *not* it is 'X∞Multiplies' what the fuck? I have a tour poster and everything, I feel so stupid.

The 5 FPs (MaresNest), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 21:10 (ten years ago) link

For your ignorance you must relinquish your tour poster to me!

brimstead, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 21:12 (ten years ago) link

i thought it was "multiples" too until recently

tribe? de la? no "humpty dance?" (clouds), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 21:15 (ten years ago) link

I have owned two copies of this album for about a decade and also thought it was 'X∞Multiples' until 5 minutes ago so you are not alone

soref, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 21:15 (ten years ago) link

xp

soref, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 21:15 (ten years ago) link

And frogbs, that's amazing about Technodon. I'm inching closer towards it myself... wanted to take your advice and get up to speed with everybody's solo stuff before listening. I'm caught up with Hosono (Medicine Compilation foreverrr) and up to Beauty with Sakamoto now. I love both Neo Geo and Beauty. Just gotta spend some time with Heartbeat (which I know has a killer David Sylvian feat!) and give a few more listens to my frogbs-curated playlist of post-YMO Takahashi, and then I'll finally allow myself to try The Big Don.

TheNuNuNu, Wednesday, 10 July 2024 10:04 (four months ago) link

really fun to read those translations...I dunno if Japanese love songs are just deeper somehow or if all the strange terms of phrase which don't really translate to anything English speakers regularly say just makes them seem that way.

never heard that soundtrack before...I made an attempt to get into all his soundtrack work a while ago but there's just so much of it!

frogbs, Wednesday, 10 July 2024 14:10 (four months ago) link

I mean you'd never hear Air Supply imploring someone to "leap through time" or "meet outside the world"

frogbs, Wednesday, 10 July 2024 14:12 (four months ago) link

I'm slightly surprised Heartbeat isn't available on any streaming services, it's great. I've rinsed Sayonara a lot since RS passed. And Cloud #9 is another low-key classic Sylvian/Sakamoto collab.

bamboohouses, Wednesday, 10 July 2024 14:27 (four months ago) link

It's a language with like 100 sounds. There isn't as much of a tendency to rhyme because it can get very samey. So they just get absolutely jiggy with it.

xp

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 14:32 (four months ago) link

Oh, is that what accounts for how little rhyming there tends to be? I thought it was just Takashi Matsumoto being a trendsetter.

On the other hand, the ridiculous proliferation of near-identical rhymes that verb conjugations create means Japanese rap music sounds soooo smooth. It's like they can't NOT be constantly multi-syllable rhyming.

What are these Sayonara and Cloud #9?! I thought I already had a pretty good grasp on the songs they'd done together. Very pleased to find out that's not the case. Bamboohouses, do you know Grains (Sweet Paulownia Remix)? The latest singing Sylvian has done -- new lyrics written for/about the dying Ryuichi -- set to a remix of what I think was originally a Sakamoto/Alva Noto collab. Amazing piece.

TheNuNuNu, Wednesday, 10 July 2024 15:37 (four months ago) link

Also, though, Matsumoto (lyricist of Kyun, and also the lyricist in Happy End, back in the day) is awesome at love songs in particular. He likes to draw very particular scenes and evoke very particular emotions... usually from a girl's perspective, no less, since the majority of his lyric-writing was done for "aidoru." Wonderful idiosyncratic stuff. If only the love songs that fill western charts had such careful and ingenious lyrics.

TheNuNuNu, Wednesday, 10 July 2024 15:43 (four months ago) link

What are these Sayonara and Cloud #9?!

I listened to Heartbeat, and now have answers. Great record. I'm loving this whole "international big-name feats over auteur bedroom-studio pop" period of Sakamoto's career. The albums sound like collages. Futurista is clearly where this whole approach was born -- nobody talks about Futurista! But it's fantastic. And then it's like Neo Geo and Beauty and Heartbeat expand out from that center, sounding more and more polished. But Sakamoto's weirdness is still evident in the whole if not always the parts.

TheNuNuNu, Tuesday, 23 July 2024 08:34 (three months ago) link

one month passes...

In September of 1981, Hosono, Takahashi, and Sakamoto took the members of Kraftwerk to a Roppongi disco.

TheNuNuNu, Thursday, 12 September 2024 15:31 (two months ago) link

And the members of Kraftwerk danced.

TheNuNuNu, Thursday, 12 September 2024 15:32 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

We don't sightsee! We dance! You understand?

TheNuNuNu, Sunday, 27 October 2024 13:30 (two weeks ago) link


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