Kendrick Lamar will kill your favorite rapper for money

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^ alcoholics anonymous employee of the month

r|t|c, Monday, 14 January 2013 22:33 (eleven years ago) link

it's not that i have to listen to it all in sequence, it's that there aren't any weak tracks and the sequencing as is is pretty solid

an old penis drawing is now "new and notable" (forksclovetofu), Monday, 14 January 2013 22:37 (eleven years ago) link

He killed it in Dublin tonight. Crowd were word perfect, scarily so. There was kind of a messianic fervor in the air. And whatever you might think of Backseat Freestyle it absolutely goes off in a live setting

Number None, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 00:05 (eleven years ago) link

I still listen to it a lot. There was a bit of a drop out after the initial WOW but I still really love this.

I do listen to it all the way through more often than not.

Poetic Justice gets a lot of solo spins. Ditto Swimming Pool, Money Trees, m.A.A.d city and also The Recipe and Black Boy Fly from the bonus tracks.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 00:25 (eleven years ago) link

but yeah, this is immensely satisfying. Future's Pluto might have edged it out eventually as my favourite rap album of last year depending on the day of the week, but i love this album - i don't just like it.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 00:25 (eleven years ago) link

From the Pazz & Jop essay:

Good kid, m.A.A.d city also implicitly echoes the vérité actors and anomie of neorealist classic Bicycle Thieves.

I don't know how I could have missed that.

Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 21 January 2013 00:59 (eleven years ago) link

i missed it by not reading a word of pazz and job this year

an eagle named "small government" (call all destroyer), Monday, 21 January 2013 00:59 (eleven years ago) link

You're not missing much. The comments are particularly glib and smug, apart from Alfred's. Who writes stuff like this and thinks it's smart?

Think stuffing your album title with 24 words is pretentious? So does she—the joke's on you.

Kendrick was great in London tonight btw

Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 21 January 2013 01:05 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Ta-Nehisi Coates:

I must confess my bias. I grew up in Baltimore during a time when the city was in the thrall of crack and Saturday night specials. I’ve spent most of my life in neighborhoods suffering their disproportionate share of gun violence. In each of these places it was not simply the deaths that have stood out to me, but the way that death corrupted the most ordinary of rituals. On an average day in middle school, fully a third of my brain was obsessed with personal safety. I feared the block 10 times more than any pop quiz. My favorite show in those days was “The Wonder Years.” When Kevin Arnold went to visit his lost-found love Winnie Cooper, he simply hopped on his bike. In Baltimore, calling upon our Winnie Coopers meant gathering an entire crew. There was safety in numbers. Alone, we were targets.

The world I lived in, and the preserve of Lamar’s album, was created not by mindless nature but by public policy. It is understandable that in the wake of great tragedy we’d want to take a second look at those policies. But in some corners of America great tragedy has bloomed into a world that does not simply raise the ranks of the dead but shrinks the world of the survivors. “Good Kid” shows us how gun violence extends out beyond the actual guns.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 February 2013 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

Now i am never going to be able to listen to this lbum and not think of the wonder years

it was very clear that it's a sarcastic song (forksclovetofu), Friday, 8 February 2013 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

Savage

it was very clear that it's a sarcastic song (forksclovetofu), Friday, 8 February 2013 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

that part of the "Backseat Freestyle" video is legit mesmerizing

Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Thursday, 14 February 2013 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

This is pretty damn great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=525vQAGO6fg

tsrobodo, Thursday, 14 February 2013 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

Kendrick Lamar and the Decline of the Black Blues Narrative

#longreads

The Reverend, Monday, 25 February 2013 02:56 (eleven years ago) link

that was a fantastic read

This beat is TWEENCHRONIC (DJP), Monday, 25 February 2013 16:00 (eleven years ago) link

agree, excellent read! ty!

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Monday, 25 February 2013 16:11 (eleven years ago) link

the only thing I think is being undersold (a point more relevant to another thing I started reading by her on The Roots' album undun) is the idea that some of the material-based bragging being waved by Jay-Z and Kanye West is a manifestation of the threat of black people breaking through the economic barrier she is describing in her rejection of the fiction of post-racial America, and that that bragging isn't being done in a "race doesn't matter" way but more in a "we are coming to get you on your own terms" way, which is IMO empowering from a different angle and more radicalized than people realize

This beat is TWEENCHRONIC (DJP), Monday, 25 February 2013 16:21 (eleven years ago) link

just to preserve my initial cynicism going into this: people really want to make this record capital-I Important, like it signifies some kind of shift in thinking or attitudes and I'm concerned that actually seeks to undermine what makes the record smart and interesting.

rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 25 February 2013 16:25 (eleven years ago) link

but now I will read it

rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 25 February 2013 16:25 (eleven years ago) link

the only thing I think is being undersold (a point more relevant to another thing I started reading by her on The Roots' album undun) is the idea that some of the material-based bragging being waved by Jay-Z and Kanye West is a manifestation of the threat of black people breaking through the economic barrier she is describing in her rejection of the fiction of post-racial America, and that that bragging isn't being done in a "race doesn't matter" way but more in a "we are coming to get you on your own terms" way, which is IMO empowering from a different angle and more radicalized than people realize

― This beat is TWEENCHRONIC (DJP), Monday, February 25, 2013 11:21 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

super otm

flopson, Monday, 25 February 2013 16:27 (eleven years ago) link

usually i resist academic proclamations that things are HUGE and IMPT but i found this angle interesting at the very least

“There’s a certain kind of American story that is characterized by a laconic surface and a tight-lipped speaking voice. The narrator in this story has been made inarticulate by modern life. Vulnerable to his own loneliness, he is forced into an attitude of hard-boiled self-protection,” writes Vivian Gornick in her essay “Tenderhearted Men,” in which she takes to task the terse, unchanging masculinity of Raymond Carver and Andre Dubus. Gornick, however, could just as easily be writing about the emotional impasse found in hip-hop.

also, wow do i wish my students read that much.

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Monday, 25 February 2013 16:38 (eleven years ago) link

i'm with this and then

In 1992, David Foster Wallace coauthored with Mark Costello one of the finest essays ever written about rap music, Signifying Rappers.

rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 25 February 2013 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

lol

flopson, Monday, 25 February 2013 16:40 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i didnt think anyone was into that book

just sayin, Monday, 25 February 2013 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

A few months ago, when Kendrick Lamar released his album good kid m.A.A.d city, it excited all of the critics who get paid good money to not get too excited.

lol one of those adjectives doesn't belong

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 February 2013 16:46 (eleven years ago) link

did you think that the paragraph she quoted from the DFW/MC essay was unfounded/wrong?

This beat is TWEENCHRONIC (DJP), Monday, 25 February 2013 16:49 (eleven years ago) link

the only thing I think is being undersold (a point more relevant to another thing I started reading by her on The Roots' album undun) is the idea that some of the material-based bragging being waved by Jay-Z and Kanye West is a manifestation of the threat of black people breaking through the economic barrier she is describing in her rejection of the fiction of post-racial America, and that that bragging isn't being done in a "race doesn't matter" way but more in a "we are coming to get you on your own terms" way, which is IMO empowering from a different angle and more radicalized than people realize

― This beat is TWEENCHRONIC (DJP), Monday, February 25, 2013 11:21 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

most clever thing either of them have done in like half a decade is to give their ubiquitous pop hit a title that makes - or should make - all non-black people awkward

lex pretend, Monday, 25 February 2013 16:49 (eleven years ago) link

this is thankfully low on hyperbole and simply argues that kendrick has 'made a third way' but per usual w/ academics its all 'hip hop, voice of the dispossessed' but only engages w/ hip hop via one artist and not as a whole

what DJP said, too

but, it is a very good piece

rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 25 February 2013 16:49 (eleven years ago) link

did you think that the paragraph she quoted from the DFW/MC essay was unfounded/wrong?

― This beat is TWEENCHRONIC (DJP), Monday, February 25, 2013 10:49 AM (13 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no.

rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 25 February 2013 16:49 (eleven years ago) link

the Thomas Chatterton Williams sounds fantastic

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 February 2013 16:50 (eleven years ago) link

I am not really going to fault an academic writing about a particular person for focusing on that person; it would be more problematic issue if the focus of this paper was a Grand Unifying Theory of Hip-Hop rather than an attempt to describe a specific rapper in terms of a wider literary and socioeconomic context.

This beat is TWEENCHRONIC (DJP), Monday, 25 February 2013 17:12 (eleven years ago) link

can I get a full breakdown on what's wrong about "signifying rappers" while we're here

available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 25 February 2013 17:52 (eleven years ago) link

has anyone read it? i just had never heard anything good about it so had never investigated further

just sayin, Monday, 25 February 2013 18:05 (eleven years ago) link

Get the feeling that you'd really have to be interested in DFW to enjoy it.

tsrobodo, Monday, 25 February 2013 18:32 (eleven years ago) link

I have it. It's flawed there are some great parts. Get a bit sick of ppl with big opinions 4u about dfw who haven't read him

in a chef-driven ambulance (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 25 February 2013 18:50 (eleven years ago) link

ive read him but i havent read 'signifying rappers' i've just been warned to avoid it like numerous times

rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 25 February 2013 18:57 (eleven years ago) link

ha yeah same and i'm a dfw fan, like him too much to be embarrassed for him if it sucks

k3vin k., Monday, 25 February 2013 19:15 (eleven years ago) link

but i would be interested in hearing what the most common criticisms of it are

k3vin k., Monday, 25 February 2013 19:16 (eleven years ago) link

the excerpts ive read from it seem like stuff that is either self-evident but written in a suuuper academic way that seems like it would make for tedious reading

rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 25 February 2013 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

scratch 'either'

rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 25 February 2013 19:27 (eleven years ago) link

I haven't read this either but, looking at the publication date, it seems to be sensible to allow for the possibility that things that seem self-evident in 2013 may not have been self-evident in 1990.

This beat is TWEENCHRONIC (DJP), Monday, 25 February 2013 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

well, it was panned back then too

rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 25 February 2013 20:30 (eleven years ago) link

I just read Christgau's review, which is pretty brutal in its economy

This beat is TWEENCHRONIC (DJP), Monday, 25 February 2013 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

Kendrick is going to be playing at Brown in April (yay) opening for Dirty Projectors (boooooooo)

my super interesting Kant story (DJP), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 15:27 (eleven years ago) link

lol college bills are the best

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

ha, that's insane

kendrick delmar - good kid, f.U.C.k. you (The Reverend), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 15:57 (eleven years ago) link

this is prob the best one http://www.songkick.com/concerts/832766-clipse-at-columbia-university

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 February 2013 16:04 (eleven years ago) link

one of my favorite shows ever was from the Spring Fling my freshman year:

Figures on a Beach
De La Soul

my super interesting Kant story (DJP), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 16:10 (eleven years ago) link

kendrick and dirty projectors would be pretty sweet imo

k3vin k., Wednesday, 27 February 2013 16:12 (eleven years ago) link


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