after he left cream? dominos. ugh. I need to go to bed.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 00:52 (eleven years ago) link
I don't mind his Phil Collins-produced shit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0XQwazkx10
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 00:54 (eleven years ago) link
yeah that's the 'mostly' qualifier of the abysmal career. I love that
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 00:55 (eleven years ago) link
my feeling is he's classic for yardbirds and cream and kinda dud for everything else. even as a 15-year-old classic rock fiend the 'layla' album always put me to sleep.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 01:01 (eleven years ago) link
I want those of you who don't rep for Iggy's Party to know that you are dead to me
― available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 01:04 (eleven years ago) link
in the Ginger Baker documentary Clapton presents himself as the sanest, most benevolent man in rock and it's a fucking chore and I don't believe it for a second.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 01:06 (eleven years ago) link
there's a live version of 'i shot the sheriff' on the clapton box that sounds fierce-ish, but other than that it's a rough last 2.5 discs
he took the wrong drugs i guess
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 01:11 (eleven years ago) link
Fuck Clapton forever for this fucking shit:
"I used to be into dope, now I’m into racism. It’s much heavier, man. Fucking wogs, man. Fucking Saudis taking over London. Bastard wogs. Britain is becoming overcrowded and Enoch will stop it and send them all back. The black wogs and coons and Arabs and fucking Jamaicans and fucking [indecipherable] don’t belong here, we don’t want them here. This is England, this is a white country, we don’t want any black wogs and coons living here. We need to make clear to them they are not welcome. England is for white people, man. We are a white country. I don’t want fucking wogs living next to me with their standards. This is Great Britain, a white country, what is happening to us, for fuck's sake? We need to vote for Enoch Powell, he’s a great man, speaking truth. Vote for Enoch, he’s our man, he’s on our side, he’ll look after us. I want all of you here to vote for Enoch, support him, he’s on our side. Enoch for Prime Minister! Throw the wogs out! Keep Britain white!"[116]
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 01:15 (eleven years ago) link
wow, i knew he'd said something along those lines but had never actually seen the quote. that's pretty fucking rank. i can't believe we don't hear more about that.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 01:20 (eleven years ago) link
In an interview from October 1976 with Sounds magazine, Clapton remarked, "I thought it was quite funny actually. I don't know much about politics. I don't even know if it would be good or bad for him to get in. I don't even know who the Prime Minister is now. I just don't know what came over me that night. It must have been something that happened in the day but it came out in this garbled thing... I thought the whole thing was like Monty Python. There's this rock group playing on-stage and the singer starts talking about politics. It's so stupid. Those people who paid their money sittin' listening to this madman dribbling on and the band meanwhile getting fidgety thinking 'oh dear'."
So that's ok then.
― it's all fuck what sit says, we'll do our own thing (Matt #2), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 01:23 (eleven years ago) link
Can someone please explain to me why that quote didn't kill his god awful career?
― Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 01:24 (eleven years ago) link
no youtube
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 01:27 (eleven years ago) link
Lennon's not really that much of an insane answer... I'll give him Imagine, John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band a small handful of his songs from Double Fantasty and Milk And Honey, plus '#9 Dream' and 'Mind Games' (the song)... rest of his stuff, and I include the rock'n'roll covers record and his early collaborations with Yoko here, is mostly gash.
I'll give him "Imagine", plus his half of "Double Fantasy". "Mind Games" and "Walls and Bridges" had their moments.
"Plastic Ono Band" was horrible. Period.
― The GeirBot (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 01:36 (eleven years ago) link
Yoko Ono/Plastic Ono Band is the best record of either of their (post-Beatles) careers. By far his (and damn near Ringo's) best playing.
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 01:47 (eleven years ago) link
Tarfumes I don't wanna tell you how to live but if I were to say to you Moo Mot Meed the Mroll you'd catch my drift n'est-pas
― available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 01:50 (eleven years ago) link
lennon contributed some awesome guitar work to yoko's 'walking on thin ice,' which turned out to be the last thing he ever did in the studio.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 01:55 (eleven years ago) link
jesus, we woke geir up!
― scott seward, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 01:57 (eleven years ago) link
speaking of ringo...
― scott seward, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 01:58 (eleven years ago) link
you'd catch my drift n'est-pas
Oh, I know. It's just that it's been a while. It's like when you haven't seen a whack-a-mole game in years, and then you walk past one and can't help but give it a sentimental whack.
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 02:06 (eleven years ago) link
I don't mind some selections from Yoko Ono/Plastic Ono Band and Fly, but I see those more as Yoko solo records, even if Lennon does have a hand in them. It's the Unfinished Music stuff that I can't really get on board with.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 02:21 (eleven years ago) link
lol aero
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 02:38 (eleven years ago) link
I listened to the 12/12/12 Sandy Concert on the radio driving home from work, not really knowing exactly the order of who was playing when or who had already played, etc. Jon Stewart was doing this impassioned intro about the Jersey Shore and gives this big wind up and I'm thinking 'oh cool I haven't missed Springsteen' - and then Stewart says 'And who better to play for you now than the great man...' (me: YAY!)"...old Slowhand himself, ERIC CLAPTON!'
*NEEDLE SCRATCH*
I nearly crashed the fucking car I was so mad. I actually yelled at the radio 'GO FUCK YOURSELF SLOWHAND YOU C---'
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 02:41 (eleven years ago) link
Clapton video upthread takes me back to a time when videos of songs from soundtracks peppered in, err, sounds from the movie. Boy, that was a weird era, man. Try hearing that tune without the cue ball being struck = impossible now.
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 05:08 (eleven years ago) link
― The GeirBot (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, February 5, 2013 1:36 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
pretty much a flawless album
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 05:11 (eleven years ago) link
but even derek & the dominos is not really "solo" maybe. isn't most of the guitar goddery there Duane Allman anyway?
― wk, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 06:11 (eleven years ago) link
peter hammill solo >>>>>> vdgg
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 06:28 (eleven years ago) link
Did Colin Blunstone get a pass in the UK? That dude's solo stuff is pretty bad besides One Year.
― berner herzog (fadanuf4erybody), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 07:01 (eleven years ago) link
Any Wu-Tang clan member solo career, except for Ghostface and Method Man.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 08:47 (eleven years ago) link
Richard Thompson. Some of those early solo albums are pretty great, but outside of the Grizzly Man soundtrack the past 20 years seem pretty dire.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 09:23 (eleven years ago) link
hmm but I would say most of his reputation rests on those solo albums (and the Linda stuff) rather than on Fairport which was always more of a collective group thing
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 09:27 (eleven years ago) link
With richard thompson we're falling into the "artists with long careers who got less good after a decade or so" which is nearly everyone who doesn't die/retire young.
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 09:52 (eleven years ago) link
@ fadanuf I'd say Rod Argent got more post-Zombies goodwill, but at the couple of recent Zombies concerts I've been to, the crowd has been clearly divided into Colin-lovers and Argent-lovers
― flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 14:13 (eleven years ago) link
Nobody mentioned Sting yet?
It's been a while but I seem to recall his very early solo stuff to not be horrific, but certainly not befitting the genius that was The Police. And then he became a New Age wanker and I haven't cared since.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 14:20 (eleven years ago) link
Sting doesn't get a pass, or at least hasn't since around 1990.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 14:25 (eleven years ago) link
even Sting's good solo stuff never seemed to get much of a pass. maybe his first solo album but people have torn this dude to shreds for nearly 3 decades now!
― frogbs, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 14:32 (eleven years ago) link
Yet he still is constantly one of the top grossing touring artists every year he hits the road. So some people sure give him a pass.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 14:33 (eleven years ago) link
co-signing Jarvis Cocker.
― mike t-diva, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 14:39 (eleven years ago) link
the list of people who were in good/popular bands who went on to make shitty solo albums is kinda endless. lotsa people think they were the genius of the group and then they are stuck in a studio with don was and its 4 a.m. and the riffs just sound really shitty and kenny aronoff is begging to go home so that he can feed his dogs.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 14:42 (eleven years ago) link
Karl Bartos
― moin moin hummel hummel (doo dah), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 14:43 (eleven years ago) link
if you are dave mason you create good will for decades with one single song!
― scott seward, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 14:46 (eleven years ago) link
wanna be positive and ask: who was once a member of a popular/respected/etc band who made really great solo albums that are underheard/underrated?
Not really solo albums but the two of them are practically inseparable so it's close enough, but anyway those Flo & Eddie solo records are pretty underrated.
― cwkiii, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 14:55 (eleven years ago) link
At this point though there are probably as many people who are there to hear Sting songs as ones who want to see the guy from the Police
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 14:59 (eleven years ago) link
So at least half of his top-grossing audience gives him a pass then!
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 15:00 (eleven years ago) link
yeah but the "based entirely upon past successes with respective bands" part doesn't fit
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 15:05 (eleven years ago) link
depends on what your definition of "get a pass" is. I mean Phil Collins sold a zillion albums too. as did Clapton.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 15:09 (eleven years ago) link
"Richard Thompson. Some of those early solo albums are pretty great, but outside of the Grizzly Man soundtrack the past 20 years seem pretty dire."
don't understand this at all. the guy's live performance continue to be amazing and as a guitarist he's just not normal.
― charlie h, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 15:10 (eleven years ago) link
who gives this guy a pass
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 15:25 (eleven years ago) link
hes only done like two albums too, and one of them was alright (Communication??)
― frogbs, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 15:28 (eleven years ago) link
depends on what your definition of "get a pass" is. I mean Phil Collins sold a zillion albums too. as did Clapton.― frogbs, Tuesday, February 5, 2013 10:09 AM
― frogbs, Tuesday, February 5, 2013 10:09 AM
Whereas Sting was always billed as the Police guy and while still remaining commercially successful, he is still known for his work and accomplishments in The Police. I still see solo Sting dates touted as "from The Police." I don't think Collins solo gigs mention him as "the guy from Genesis" or Clapton as "former Yardbird" or whatever.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 15:39 (eleven years ago) link
maybe worth mentioning that I could not really tell Phil's Genesis hits apart from his solo ones, while the Police/Sting were totally different entities
― frogbs, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 15:41 (eleven years ago) link