Mostly abysmal solo careers that get a pass based almost entirely on past successes with respective bands and / or good will

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"Richard Thompson. Some of those early solo albums are pretty great, but outside of the Grizzly Man soundtrack the past 20 years seem pretty dire."

don't understand this at all. the guy's live performance continue to be amazing and as a guitarist he's just not normal.

charlie h, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 15:10 (eleven years ago) link

Karl Bartos

who gives this guy a pass

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

hes only done like two albums too, and one of them was alright (Communication??)

frogbs, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 15:28 (eleven years ago) link

depends on what your definition of "get a pass" is. I mean Phil Collins sold a zillion albums too. as did Clapton.

― frogbs, Tuesday, February 5, 2013 10:09 AM

In both of those cases, those artists solo careers seemed to completely eclipse their former bands. I mean, Genesis was fairly popular but a lot of the proto-soccer moms who made his solo career huge probably had no idea who Genesis was. Same with Clapton to a lesser degree, I think.

Whereas Sting was always billed as the Police guy and while still remaining commercially successful, he is still known for his work and accomplishments in The Police. I still see solo Sting dates touted as "from The Police." I don't think Collins solo gigs mention him as "the guy from Genesis" or Clapton as "former Yardbird" or whatever.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 15:39 (eleven years ago) link

maybe worth mentioning that I could not really tell Phil's Genesis hits apart from his solo ones, while the Police/Sting were totally different entities

frogbs, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 15:41 (eleven years ago) link

as I said upthread, Collins may be one of the few artists whose solo career changed the band's sound.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

^great thread idea

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 15:43 (eleven years ago) link

surely anagram, you'd mention Pete Hammill there?

frogbs, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 15:50 (eleven years ago) link

nick cave is a goofy answer, sorry scott, unless this thread is "artists whose solo work isnt as good as their work in bands." he was a critical phenom, not just a dude who got a pass because of the birthday party.

zero dark (s1ocki), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 15:54 (eleven years ago) link

Same with Clapton to a lesser degree, I think.

This is what I was getting at: I doubt the people who made "Tears in Heaven" #1 on the AC charts were all Yardbirds or Cream fans or even aware of early Yardbirds. Did the Yardbirds even score any big hits before Beck replaced Clapton?

EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 15:54 (eleven years ago) link

Unless "get a pass" refers to critical acclaim, not to popular appeal.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 15:55 (eleven years ago) link

for your love was a big hit!

scott seward, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 16:03 (eleven years ago) link

I kind of agree on Nick Cave, tho, not so much as "he gets a free pass" as his badass history let him get away with a lot of balladeering

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 16:04 (eleven years ago) link

it was their biggest u.s. hit by far. and its kinda why clapton left the group. he didn't want to be a "pop" star.

scott seward, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 16:04 (eleven years ago) link

I love the idea that Nick Cave is just "former Birthday Party frontman Nick Cave". That's like saying Neil Young is best known as an ex-member of Buffalo Springfield.

Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 16:07 (eleven years ago) link

surely anagram, you'd mention Pete Hammill there?

mos def. the three post-reunion albums all sound like PH-plus-organ to me (or PH-plus-organ-and-sax in the case of Present) in a way that the 70s albums certainly don't.

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 16:14 (eleven years ago) link

I thought Jeff Beck played on "For Your Love", probably because it sounds more pop and less blues than most Clapton-era Yardbirds. My mistake, sorry.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 16:22 (eleven years ago) link

also I'd say the 3 Hammill albums after Pawn Hearts seemed to hint at what was to come with Godbluff

frogbs, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

I know he has his fans, but ... Bob Mould.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

we've already been down the mould route up top.

scott seward, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 17:59 (eleven years ago) link


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