Now i am never going to be able to listen to this lbum and not think of the wonder years
― it was very clear that it's a sarcastic song (forksclovetofu), Friday, 8 February 2013 17:27 (eleven years ago) link
Savage
Sheranehttp://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mehbvpgVAF1rcaf53o1_500.jpghttp://24.media.tumblr.com/f5b97f1d9bb7e80795b43c3dddd331ac/tumblr_mg0xsuqvwD1qfe20eo1_500.gif
― skeet-skeet-gate (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 14 February 2013 18:26 (eleven years ago) link
that part of the "Backseat Freestyle" video is legit mesmerizing
― Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Thursday, 14 February 2013 18:43 (eleven years ago) link
This is pretty damn greathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=525vQAGO6fg
― tsrobodo, Thursday, 14 February 2013 19:40 (eleven years ago) link
Kendrick Lamar and the Decline of the Black Blues Narrative
#longreads
― The Reverend, Monday, 25 February 2013 02:56 (eleven years ago) link
that was a fantastic read
― This beat is TWEENCHRONIC (DJP), Monday, 25 February 2013 16:00 (eleven years ago) link
agree, excellent read! ty!
― and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Monday, 25 February 2013 16:11 (eleven years ago) link
the only thing I think is being undersold (a point more relevant to another thing I started reading by her on The Roots' album undun) is the idea that some of the material-based bragging being waved by Jay-Z and Kanye West is a manifestation of the threat of black people breaking through the economic barrier she is describing in her rejection of the fiction of post-racial America, and that that bragging isn't being done in a "race doesn't matter" way but more in a "we are coming to get you on your own terms" way, which is IMO empowering from a different angle and more radicalized than people realize
― This beat is TWEENCHRONIC (DJP), Monday, 25 February 2013 16:21 (eleven years ago) link
just to preserve my initial cynicism going into this: people really want to make this record capital-I Important, like it signifies some kind of shift in thinking or attitudes and I'm concerned that actually seeks to undermine what makes the record smart and interesting.
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 25 February 2013 16:25 (eleven years ago) link
but now I will read it
― This beat is TWEENCHRONIC (DJP), Monday, February 25, 2013 11:21 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
super otm
― flopson, Monday, 25 February 2013 16:27 (eleven years ago) link
usually i resist academic proclamations that things are HUGE and IMPT but i found this angle interesting at the very least
“There’s a certain kind of American story that is characterized by a laconic surface and a tight-lipped speaking voice. The narrator in this story has been made inarticulate by modern life. Vulnerable to his own loneliness, he is forced into an attitude of hard-boiled self-protection,” writes Vivian Gornick in her essay “Tenderhearted Men,” in which she takes to task the terse, unchanging masculinity of Raymond Carver and Andre Dubus. Gornick, however, could just as easily be writing about the emotional impasse found in hip-hop.
also, wow do i wish my students read that much.
― and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Monday, 25 February 2013 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
i'm with this and then
In 1992, David Foster Wallace coauthored with Mark Costello one of the finest essays ever written about rap music, Signifying Rappers.
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 25 February 2013 16:39 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― flopson, Monday, 25 February 2013 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i didnt think anyone was into that book
― just sayin, Monday, 25 February 2013 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
A few months ago, when Kendrick Lamar released his album good kid m.A.A.d city, it excited all of the critics who get paid good money to not get too excited.
lol one of those adjectives doesn't belong
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 February 2013 16:46 (eleven years ago) link
did you think that the paragraph she quoted from the DFW/MC essay was unfounded/wrong?
― This beat is TWEENCHRONIC (DJP), Monday, 25 February 2013 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
otm
most clever thing either of them have done in like half a decade is to give their ubiquitous pop hit a title that makes - or should make - all non-black people awkward
― lex pretend, Monday, 25 February 2013 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
this is thankfully low on hyperbole and simply argues that kendrick has 'made a third way' but per usual w/ academics its all 'hip hop, voice of the dispossessed' but only engages w/ hip hop via one artist and not as a whole
what DJP said, too
but, it is a very good piece
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 25 February 2013 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
― This beat is TWEENCHRONIC (DJP), Monday, February 25, 2013 10:49 AM (13 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
no.
the Thomas Chatterton Williams sounds fantastic
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 February 2013 16:50 (eleven years ago) link
I am not really going to fault an academic writing about a particular person for focusing on that person; it would be more problematic issue if the focus of this paper was a Grand Unifying Theory of Hip-Hop rather than an attempt to describe a specific rapper in terms of a wider literary and socioeconomic context.
― This beat is TWEENCHRONIC (DJP), Monday, 25 February 2013 17:12 (eleven years ago) link
can I get a full breakdown on what's wrong about "signifying rappers" while we're here
― available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 25 February 2013 17:52 (eleven years ago) link
has anyone read it? i just had never heard anything good about it so had never investigated further
― just sayin, Monday, 25 February 2013 18:05 (eleven years ago) link
Get the feeling that you'd really have to be interested in DFW to enjoy it.
― tsrobodo, Monday, 25 February 2013 18:32 (eleven years ago) link
I have it. It's flawed there are some great parts. Get a bit sick of ppl with big opinions 4u about dfw who haven't read him
― in a chef-driven ambulance (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 25 February 2013 18:50 (eleven years ago) link
ive read him but i havent read 'signifying rappers' i've just been warned to avoid it like numerous times
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 25 February 2013 18:57 (eleven years ago) link
ha yeah same and i'm a dfw fan, like him too much to be embarrassed for him if it sucks
― k3vin k., Monday, 25 February 2013 19:15 (eleven years ago) link
but i would be interested in hearing what the most common criticisms of it are
― k3vin k., Monday, 25 February 2013 19:16 (eleven years ago) link
the excerpts ive read from it seem like stuff that is either self-evident but written in a suuuper academic way that seems like it would make for tedious reading
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 25 February 2013 19:26 (eleven years ago) link
scratch 'either'
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 25 February 2013 19:27 (eleven years ago) link
I haven't read this either but, looking at the publication date, it seems to be sensible to allow for the possibility that things that seem self-evident in 2013 may not have been self-evident in 1990.
― This beat is TWEENCHRONIC (DJP), Monday, 25 February 2013 19:40 (eleven years ago) link
well, it was panned back then too
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 25 February 2013 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
I just read Christgau's review, which is pretty brutal in its economy
― This beat is TWEENCHRONIC (DJP), Monday, 25 February 2013 20:33 (eleven years ago) link
Kendrick is going to be playing at Brown in April (yay) opening for Dirty Projectors (boooooooo)
― my super interesting Kant story (DJP), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 15:27 (eleven years ago) link
lol college bills are the best
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 15:32 (eleven years ago) link
ha, that's insane
― kendrick delmar - good kid, f.U.C.k. you (The Reverend), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 15:57 (eleven years ago) link
this is prob the best one http://www.songkick.com/concerts/832766-clipse-at-columbia-university
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 February 2013 16:04 (eleven years ago) link
one of my favorite shows ever was from the Spring Fling my freshman year:
Figures on a BeachDe La Soul
― my super interesting Kant story (DJP), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 16:10 (eleven years ago) link
kendrick and dirty projectors would be pretty sweet imo
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 27 February 2013 16:12 (eleven years ago) link
yeah DPs are pretty cool live
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 February 2013 16:14 (eleven years ago) link
I had a terrible dream last night that kendrick and jay rock were bullying me and threatening me with guns. I woke up sweating. it was a serious nightmare lol, as distressing as any I've had.
― marc iv, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 20:54 (eleven years ago) link
uh
― kendrick delmar - good kid, f.U.C.k. you (The Reverend), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 21:10 (eleven years ago) link
that's a pretty loaded nightmare, ya bish
― "Bellini." (DJP), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 21:26 (eleven years ago) link
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 6 March 2013 21:27 (eleven years ago) link
since gKMc I kinda imagine Kendrick as the older Clifford in the frame story of the movie Clifford
― sleepingbag, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 21:29 (eleven years ago) link
When marc iv awoke one morning from uneasy dreams, he found himself transformed in his bed into a G.
― in a chef-driven ambulance (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 21:31 (eleven years ago) link
real time lol
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 21:46 (eleven years ago) link
are guns phallic? i am not super familiar with dream analysis, is symbolism really that straightforward? i am more concerned with racist overtones than gay ones. I have been thinking about race a lot: the conflict of the n-word's meaninglessness in hiphop and the disastrous meaning it suddenly has if I, a white person, use it. I am not saying this double standard is not defensible, but any language control is a form of thought control, right? maybe Kendrick and jay = black ppl in general, "bullying" me into thinking along the lines deemed acceptable for white folks?
excuse me if this is not the time or place. and if I say anything offensive I swear I am not overtly racist, merely unconsciously so (as this dream hopefully is NOT proof of. though I know studies have proven that ALL are unconsciously racist).
― marc iv, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 21:51 (eleven years ago) link