ha yeah same and i'm a dfw fan, like him too much to be embarrassed for him if it sucks
― k3vin k., Monday, 25 February 2013 19:15 (eleven years ago) link
but i would be interested in hearing what the most common criticisms of it are
― k3vin k., Monday, 25 February 2013 19:16 (eleven years ago) link
the excerpts ive read from it seem like stuff that is either self-evident but written in a suuuper academic way that seems like it would make for tedious reading
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 25 February 2013 19:26 (eleven years ago) link
scratch 'either'
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 25 February 2013 19:27 (eleven years ago) link
I haven't read this either but, looking at the publication date, it seems to be sensible to allow for the possibility that things that seem self-evident in 2013 may not have been self-evident in 1990.
― This beat is TWEENCHRONIC (DJP), Monday, 25 February 2013 19:40 (eleven years ago) link
well, it was panned back then too
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 25 February 2013 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
I just read Christgau's review, which is pretty brutal in its economy
― This beat is TWEENCHRONIC (DJP), Monday, 25 February 2013 20:33 (eleven years ago) link
Kendrick is going to be playing at Brown in April (yay) opening for Dirty Projectors (boooooooo)
― my super interesting Kant story (DJP), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 15:27 (eleven years ago) link
lol college bills are the best
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 15:32 (eleven years ago) link
ha, that's insane
― kendrick delmar - good kid, f.U.C.k. you (The Reverend), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 15:57 (eleven years ago) link
this is prob the best one http://www.songkick.com/concerts/832766-clipse-at-columbia-university
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 February 2013 16:04 (eleven years ago) link
one of my favorite shows ever was from the Spring Fling my freshman year:
Figures on a BeachDe La Soul
― my super interesting Kant story (DJP), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 16:10 (eleven years ago) link
kendrick and dirty projectors would be pretty sweet imo
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 27 February 2013 16:12 (eleven years ago) link
yeah DPs are pretty cool live
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 February 2013 16:14 (eleven years ago) link
I had a terrible dream last night that kendrick and jay rock were bullying me and threatening me with guns. I woke up sweating. it was a serious nightmare lol, as distressing as any I've had.
― marc iv, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 20:54 (eleven years ago) link
uh
― kendrick delmar - good kid, f.U.C.k. you (The Reverend), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 21:10 (eleven years ago) link
that's a pretty loaded nightmare, ya bish
― "Bellini." (DJP), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 21:26 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 6 March 2013 21:27 (eleven years ago) link
since gKMc I kinda imagine Kendrick as the older Clifford in the frame story of the movie Clifford
― sleepingbag, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 21:29 (eleven years ago) link
When marc iv awoke one morning from uneasy dreams, he found himself transformed in his bed into a G.
― in a chef-driven ambulance (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 21:31 (eleven years ago) link
real time lol
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 21:46 (eleven years ago) link
are guns phallic? i am not super familiar with dream analysis, is symbolism really that straightforward? i am more concerned with racist overtones than gay ones. I have been thinking about race a lot: the conflict of the n-word's meaninglessness in hiphop and the disastrous meaning it suddenly has if I, a white person, use it. I am not saying this double standard is not defensible, but any language control is a form of thought control, right? maybe Kendrick and jay = black ppl in general, "bullying" me into thinking along the lines deemed acceptable for white folks?
excuse me if this is not the time or place. and if I say anything offensive I swear I am not overtly racist, merely unconsciously so (as this dream hopefully is NOT proof of. though I know studies have proven that ALL are unconsciously racist).
― marc iv, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 21:51 (eleven years ago) link
whats so hard to understand about not being a dick?
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 21:53 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.s2ki.com/s2000/uploads/gallery/album_34941/gallery_82195_34941_252920.gif
xp
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 6 March 2013 21:53 (eleven years ago) link
I think your subconscious is throwing curveballs at you as it processes during sleep the ruminations you've been having on race
― "Bellini." (DJP), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 21:58 (eleven years ago) link
xp why does one person get to be a dick and it is not even being a dick while another (whitey) is dick?!?!?! it is alienating and confusing and as I hear the word rapped 100000x a day I become desensitized and prone to slip ups.
― marc iv, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 21:58 (eleven years ago) link
because of slavery
― u r the best magician ever. my bad levitate me pls (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 22:01 (eleven years ago) link
one way to combat against this is to remember that you aren't a black MC on a hip-hop record and as such don't really have a particular reason for dropping the n-word? or maybe bump up yr Will Smith intake
― "Bellini." (DJP), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 22:02 (eleven years ago) link
because people were actually owned and sold like fuckin' property your ass doesn't get to say the n-word whenever you want, tough shit
― u r the best magician ever. my bad levitate me pls (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 22:02 (eleven years ago) link
http://pixhost.me/avaxhome/15/a9/000ea915_medium.jpeg
― brimstead, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 22:03 (eleven years ago) link
I have been thinking about race a lot
but not enough
― r&b morcilla (lex pretend), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 22:06 (eleven years ago) link
I have definitely met non-black dudes from parts of Miami, etc. who can more or less get away with n---a because that really truly is the pervading language of their environment; sounds like you are not one of those ppl. I'm not either. Just let it go, there's absolutely nothing to be gained from this particular battle.
And yeah, I mean maybe that should be kinda obvious, but you know, sometimes people just get lost in their kind of abstract reasoning without acknowledging painfully obvious realities. I know I used to do that regarding almost everything when I was younger and still do quite often. Certainly the stakes are higher when it's something race-related. When you put something like that post out there people are going to jump on you like it's the most horrible thing ever when it's not that hard to see where you're coming from imo, it's just pretty apparent to me and the world that you should get past that line of thinking soon as possible.
― sleepingbag, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 22:19 (eleven years ago) link
slavery is not really a good enough reason as I nor anyone else in the world was alive. if that is not a valid argument (IMO it is), I am from Canada, home of the underground railway and stuff.
xp djp that is not a bad reasoning except for the fact that mcs use it with wild abandon, not only when talking about politics, so by this logic they are not justified either!
the actual conclusion I have reached prior to this is that although the idea of reclaiming the word MUST have as its endgame it being acceptable for all (in some distant utopia), even though it is 2013 and I live In a big ads multicultural as hell city in a liberal country, racism still exists both here and in rural areas. so if I am given some special pass that would be a bad example for the kkk and stuff. reclamation efforts would be wasted if we move too soon.
however even with this in mind I don't think it's excusable for popular artists to use it in their art, published, as it is, by the hundreds of thousands. there must be other confused white ppl out there and it's a safe bet that a lot of them are learning their lesson not by logic but by getting beaten up.
― marc iv, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 22:22 (eleven years ago) link
"logic"
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 22:26 (eleven years ago) link
as a white person you still reap the benefits of long years of institutional racism, in ways you cannot even probably understand or notice yourself, the past is not past.
― u r the best magician ever. my bad levitate me pls (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 22:27 (eleven years ago) link
guys he's canadian
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 6 March 2013 22:28 (eleven years ago) link
contendloraxer
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 6 March 2013 22:29 (eleven years ago) link
won't somebody think of the confused white ppl
it's a safe bet that a lot of them are learning their lesson not by logic but by getting beaten up.
a ray of light at the end of depressing gibberish
― r&b morcilla (lex pretend), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 22:30 (eleven years ago) link
I am from Canada, home of the underground railway
you know what, I think I'm going to bow out of this conversation for the time being
― "Bellini." (DJP), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 22:30 (eleven years ago) link
Ok I was almost on yr side a moment ago (though not at all in agreement with you) but now I'm kinda leaning toward 'take all this back to reddit or wherever please'. This is terrible 'reasoning'. Grow up.
― sleepingbag, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 22:31 (eleven years ago) link
is thread really happening right now
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 6 March 2013 22:32 (eleven years ago) link
where's the #jimmyfallonvirus when i need it the most?
― longneck, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 22:33 (eleven years ago) link
guys just let him explain
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 6 March 2013 22:34 (eleven years ago) link
I have definitely met non-black dudes from parts of Miami, etc. who can more or less get away with n---a because that really truly is the pervading language of their environment
the guy I know who does this is Columbian!
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 22:34 (eleven years ago) link
― k3vin k., Wednesday, March 6, 2013 10:34 PM (11 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
he's the one with the dream
― longneck, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 22:35 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnrswAX5qFo
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 22:37 (eleven years ago) link
MARC IV HAD A DREAM
― some dude, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 22:38 (eleven years ago) link
you know dj khaled?
lol al
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 6 March 2013 22:39 (eleven years ago) link
who could possibly want to stop this obv important discussion from continuing???
― Mordy, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 22:39 (eleven years ago) link