i really have no idea what to make of this album, like even whether i'm enjoying it or not
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 20:53 (thirteen years ago)
i feel like i'm on the brink of being completely YESSSSS THIS IS RESONATING DEEPLY WITH ME but i can't...quite...get...there and it's the kind of thing where if you're NOT on board emotionally it's kind of functionally useless
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 20:54 (thirteen years ago)
"you're the one" is a bit of a monster though
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 20:55 (thirteen years ago)
albeit i think i might like "you're the one" better if it didn't plunge shamelessly into its cheesy chorus?
the brooke candy verse on this is disappointingly terrible
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 20:57 (thirteen years ago)
have't heard the album but from the singles can attest that if you're on board emotionally they are the best ever
― katherine, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 21:41 (thirteen years ago)
there's a vagueness that keeps me from being emotionally on board "you're the one" but that curving bass
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 21:46 (thirteen years ago)
really love the lingering the verses do on "you (ha ha ha)" too
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 21:49 (thirteen years ago)
Does she have her own "I Love It" on this? I am still curious to hear what she would have done with it instead of Icona Pop.
― boxedjoy, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 22:48 (thirteen years ago)
I'm into this newest single "what I like". she has a knack for cadence
― monotony, Sunday, 31 March 2013 01:54 (thirteen years ago)
streaming over @ pitchfork advance
― monotony, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 15:07 (thirteen years ago)
This has very big Alisha's Attic vibes writ large all over it. It's a modern pop album that seems designed for people who grew up in the 90s, which is probably either really cute and endearing, or naff and silly, depending on your taste for talky-sung verses in the style of Siobhan Fahey when in Shakespeare's Sister.
― boxedjoy, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 22:50 (thirteen years ago)
Charli XCX herself seems very much a pop starlet for the twenty-something crowd, in the way she nonchalantly swears and sings about sexual encounters but it's all framed in this goth-pop cuteness with easy melodies and simple vivid imagery. I can see this album's relationship to 90's r&b being comparable to the way Anniemal took 80's disco and made it sound very pop but very chic, even though this is a lot more obviously dark and menacing.
― boxedjoy, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 22:58 (thirteen years ago)
aka the awful song with Brooke Candy made me nervous but I even don't mind that in the context of the album and You (Ha Ha Ha) is actually better than I remembered and the rest of it is great. The first three singles are still the best stuff here especially Nuclear Seasons but this is a pretty wonderful pop album.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 11 April 2013 03:20 (thirteen years ago)
as extravagant as charli's overload of stylistic reference points is, i don't think it's what's preventing this clicking for me - basically just don't think her songwriting is quite there yet. it's a bit overstuffed but the problem is less that and more her lack of a really distinct songwriting voice
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 11 April 2013 10:38 (thirteen years ago)
or just, interesting words, or something
i think i'm the only person in the world that doesn't hate the brooke candy song. the second-to-last one "how can i" would be the dud if i had to pick one
― monotony, Thursday, 11 April 2013 13:03 (thirteen years ago)
You're not alone. Cloud Aura is one of her best. That said, True Romance is a let-down for me largely due to the production. My favorite track is What I Like, but even it has it's problems. Like why start of with a great intro that gets you all hyped up, only to never reference it anywhere else in the song? Still love it, but that's just one example of the many opportunities missed by this album. I expected it to be much more in the vein of Dance 4 U and Velvet Dreaming but the album's first half is like a 90's rehash of what Little Boots was doing with 80's pop.
― Cousin Slappy, Thursday, 11 April 2013 17:45 (thirteen years ago)
I've been cool on her other singles but "What I Like" is marvelous.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 April 2013 17:47 (thirteen years ago)
this is awesome; the two-year-old songs thread in pretty seamlessly
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 18:53 (thirteen years ago)
weird but so far i prefer the album tracks to most of the singles (except "what i like" which wow). "like roses" and "take my hand" especially
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 19:19 (thirteen years ago)
black roses*
Really, really, really good record.
― monotony, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 01:59 (thirteen years ago)
after seeing her live last week this album is finally seriously beginning to click for me
in a way i'm glad the singles never quite did it in isolation because i get to feel the rush of "YOU'RE JUST ELECTRIC BLUE" now instead
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 22 April 2013 19:51 (twelve years ago)
CUZ I CAN TASTE YOUR LIPS ON MY LIPSYOUR KISSES TAKE ME OUT OF CONTROLAND I CAN FEEL MY BLOOOOOOOODIT'S CRAWLING THROUGH MY VEEEEEEIIIIIIIINS
somewhere, shirley manson feels proud
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 22 April 2013 19:59 (twelve years ago)
brooke candy's rap on "cloud aura" is so so bad but the rest of it is so good
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 22 April 2013 20:01 (twelve years ago)
WHY YOU WANNA GO TO SLEEPDON'T GO TO SLEEPDON'T GO TO SLEEPLET'S GO OUUUUUT
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 22 April 2013 20:02 (twelve years ago)
hmmm i gave this album a couple spins last week but i only actually liked about half of it (mostly the front half, but some later too), the rest just became this amorphous blur of whatever
― dyl, Monday, 22 April 2013 20:03 (twelve years ago)
it's taken me about a month and about...8 or 9 plays, i guess, to click
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 22 April 2013 20:04 (twelve years ago)
YOU'RE JUST ELECTRIC BLUUUUUUE is wonderful. all of this is wonderful.
except for brooke candy
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 22 April 2013 21:02 (twelve years ago)
Is "cloud aura" the same as on last year's mixtape?
― Tim F, Monday, 22 April 2013 22:33 (twelve years ago)
yeah no changes as far as i can tell
― monotony, Monday, 22 April 2013 22:42 (twelve years ago)
"set me free" is ENORMOUS and shoulda been the lead-off single instead of "you"
― monotony, Monday, 22 April 2013 22:43 (twelve years ago)
I still don't get why "I Love It" didn't get the praise this is getting, I know it's noisy and brash but that's kinda the point?
This keeps getting better on repeated listens, it's not so much that it's a grower as
― boxedjoy, Monday, 22 April 2013 22:50 (twelve years ago)
something else that I was thinking of how to explain before I hit enter, oops. It's like it's really simple but sticks way more than the disposable pop she clearly adores.
― boxedjoy, Monday, 22 April 2013 22:51 (twelve years ago)
I love that mixtape so much but "Cloud Aura" wouldn't be the tune I'd carry over from it.
― Tim F, Monday, 22 April 2013 22:51 (twelve years ago)
i never heard the mixtape - how does it compare to the album tim?
"i love it" is just completely rotten imo
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 07:52 (twelve years ago)
I haven't heard the album so I can't compare - but the mixtape is shimmering cloud-R&B which by that description should be awful but actually is excellent - "Cloud Aura" is pretty indicative of the overall sound but there's some more discoid and/or balladic stuff on there and there's no other raps.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 07:58 (twelve years ago)
There are some songs down the end of Super Ultra that could have slotted in fine, on here but for the most part the album is much stronger, which of course it was always going to be given that it has all those pre-release singles on it.
I'm a big fan of "I Love It" (which has had plenty of praise, btw - perhaps not on ILX but certainly elsewhere), but it's not something that would gel with the rest of this record at all; too daphne & celeste / bananarama. it's pummelling, brash, throw-your-hands-up-in-the-air-sometimes sort of stuff; none of the songs on true romance even remotely approach that kind of aggression.
― monotony, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 12:11 (twelve years ago)
and yes there is a stray comma in that first sentence, oops
― monotony, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 12:12 (twelve years ago)
Yeah, "I Love It" would sound totally out of place on this but I think it's strange that there's so much dislike for it on its own.
― boxedjoy, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 18:27 (twelve years ago)
"i love it" did really well on the ilm poll despite not being overwhelmingly praised here (and met with boos and hisses during the results rollout)
― dyl, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 22:58 (twelve years ago)
yeah i'd be interested to learn what is quite so rotten about "i love it" - as was mentioned upthread, obviously it's loud and obnoxious - but that's the whole purpose of the track, to convey that feeling of just not giving a fuck
― monotony, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 23:06 (twelve years ago)
I don't _love_ it as much anymore, but I like it in the same way I like Shampoo. And it's not like Icona Pop didn't sound more or less like this for years, so it's not like they "sold out" or whatever accusation you want to level.
― katherine, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 23:07 (twelve years ago)
at any rate this album is amazing. and yes, "Set Me Free" is massive but it doesn't seem to be the direction Charli XCX wants to go with her singles. alas.
― katherine, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 23:20 (twelve years ago)
(incidentally, the "Set Me Free" producer's best known for working with _Meds_-era Placebo, Sophie Ellis-Bextor, Nicola Roberts and Sohodolls, which is as good a triangulation [uh, with "tri-" replaced with "quad-" as necessary] of this album as you'll find anywhere.)
― katherine, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 23:58 (twelve years ago)
"i love it" feels clumsy and contrived and, crucially, totally unfun to me. i like don't-give-a-fuck music but it just repels me.
(katherine - picking up something i half-saw on twitter last night if i may, which is prob relevant here - your dislike of "tumblr" as a signifier. i'd say tumblr - regardless of the pockets of tumblr where this isn't the case - signifies decontextualisation above all to me, whether that's endless images/quotes plucked from the ether or the social justice kids or whatever...)
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 07:48 (twelve years ago)
oh, and GREAT review btw
http://www.mtvhive.com/2013/04/23/charli-xcx-true-romance/
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 07:50 (twelve years ago)
haha, that was actually prompted by reading a bunch of metacritic reviews of this very album. the thing is... tumblr is a huge site, with a huge and varied userbase; it's like how people say designs "look like Geocities," as if a site with millions of uses could be somehow aesthetically consistent in a way that isn't "this is how entry-level HTML from cookbooks in 1999 is probably gonna look."
my beef I think is that a lot of time it gets invoked as a kind of shorthand to sneak in pejoratives. like, if someone is trying to say that "this charli xcx album sounds like a thing teenage girls would love," then they should just say it -- and then think about why this is such an important thing to mention. or "this charli xcx album sounds trendy" -- how? why is that bad? etc.
(also, thanks!)
― katherine, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:25 (twelve years ago)
Ugh not feeling this at all, there's an underlying clumsiness to almost everything here and she's just not an enjoyable or engaging on-record presence. Awful voice too.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 25 April 2013 11:02 (twelve years ago)
Agreed, and I even like some of her mixtape material. I just can't with this unfinished-sounding album.
― Cousin Slappy, Thursday, 25 April 2013 15:31 (twelve years ago)
srsly it's like Charli and Finn Keane studied this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxI-uuu9aMk
― The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 14 February 2026 18:42 (two months ago)
Arranger Gareth Murphy is bringing aleatoric writing back to pop arranging and I’m here for it. Seriously this is very inspiring and awesome and humbling
Also the fact that the orchestration vacillates between chamber group, orchestra, quartet, MIDI, it’s mono and then it’s stereo then it’s filtered then it’s digitally reverb’d then it’s a spring— it’s effervescent and so creative
Skye and Charli singing in my ears hard panned left/right just now and my heart is exploding, wow
― 🎶 should I slay or should I ho 🎶 (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 14 February 2026 18:52 (two months ago)
Yeah that leapt out at me well, that hard pan -- in a good way. And thanks for these extra details on the string side of it, fgti. A lot of striking variety in a little over half an hour!
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 14 February 2026 18:57 (two months ago)
Hah I was thinking as I was listening “if I were to annotate this it’d be a 50 page document at least”, so much happens and it’s all so wonderful
― 🎶 should I slay or should I ho 🎶 (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 14 February 2026 19:07 (two months ago)
it’s Charli baby
― assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 14 February 2026 22:32 (two months ago)
Album's really good. The music worked well in the movie, too. She has a very coherent sonic idea about the material but allows a big range of approaches within it. (I agree not unlike Lux, although also I love Lux.)
― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 15 February 2026 01:22 (two months ago)
Is there a thread for the movie? I'm surprised if there isn't much talk about it here. People are losing it on social media.
― whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Sunday, 15 February 2026 01:53 (two months ago)
I don't think so. I just posted about it on the Emerald Fennell thread.
― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 15 February 2026 02:54 (two months ago)
did moodles mean the Fennell movie or the Charli movie
― uploading this content requires perseveration (sic), Sunday, 15 February 2026 03:01 (two months ago)
Ah well that doesn't have a thread either.
― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 15 February 2026 03:06 (two months ago)
i just saw The Moment. i like the idea behind it, but it's not quite biting or funny enough to work as a mockumentary. almost felt like a more restrained Safdie film? Alexander Skarsgard is having fun, tho.
― Venus of Willendorf on Golf (jaymc), Sunday, 15 February 2026 03:34 (two months ago)
This soundtrack deserved a better movie.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 15 February 2026 03:51 (two months ago)
the XCX soundtrack or the AG soundtrack
― uploading this content requires perseveration (sic), Sunday, 15 February 2026 05:14 (two months ago)
both, imo.
The Charli soundtrack is really blowing me away, I love it.
― rdej, Sunday, 15 February 2026 16:08 (two months ago)
I don't think the stuttering beat quite hits, but I am otherwise a HUGE fan of Funny Mouth. Almost a Twin Peaks quote to begin, and that building dread! Chills.
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 19 February 2026 05:45 (two months ago)
i really like my reminder, especially the crazy vocal effect in the verses of big reverb + heavy gate that cuts off both the vocal and the reverb as soon as the singing ends
― na (NA), Thursday, 19 February 2026 15:30 (two months ago)
Charli XCX going rock
Two years ago, pop’s ultimate grafter became a global household name, beloved by ravers and politicians, thanks to #Brat, this decade's most talked-about album. Now – newly married, with movie roles pouring in and set to release Brat’s follow up – #CharliXCX is ready for a rock… pic.twitter.com/U9euVUdxa2— British Vogue (@BritishVogue) April 16, 2026
https://www.vogue.co.uk/article/charli-xcx-british-vogue-interview
“It’s Fun To Flip The Form”: Charli XCX Lets Vogue In On Her Rock Reinvention
Two years ago, pop’s ultimate grafter became a global household name, beloved by ravers and politicians, thanks to Brat, this decade’s most talked-about album. Now – newly married, with movie roles pouring in and millions of fans in her thrall – Charli XCX is ready for her rock makeover. By Laura Snapes
Charli XCX going rock, what more collabs could be lined up? last year we had John Cale
Any one fancy Charli XCX teaming up with Jaz Coleman
― djmartian, Thursday, 16 April 2026 16:03 (four days ago)
As an unreconstructed Sucker fan, I'm intrigued. Guess it depends what she means by "rock," but I trust her instincts.
― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 16 April 2026 16:13 (four days ago)
re: what she means by "rock, maybe a hint from last year: Siouxsie and the Banshees
charli using Spellbound by Siouxsie and the Banshees for her ig story oh tasteli xcx......— DIGI (@DiGi__Official) May 7, 2025
I would like a 21st century JuJu with a unique Charli XCX twist
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/siouxsie-and-the-banshees/juju/
― djmartian, Thursday, 16 April 2026 17:49 (four days ago)
i love sucked too, but i don’t really get why she feels the need to do some expectations subverting pivot. don’t overthink it, just make brat 2 imho
― flopson, Thursday, 16 April 2026 18:28 (four days ago)
*sucker
next album being a rock album will be interesting, she's still working with ag cook and easyfun on that so i'm looking forward to hearing what their take on rock will sound like. brat was her third great hyperpop album so it's fine if she's going to keep broadening her horizons. i'm sure this one will be better than sucker at least.
if she's learning sword fighting then she's gotta do a music video with a sword fight, that's the rules
― ufo, Friday, 17 April 2026 00:54 (three days ago)
the one thing is that she better have the coolest distorted guitar sounds
― ufo, Friday, 17 April 2026 00:59 (three days ago)
i'm sure this one will be better than sucker at least.
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― Tracer Hand, Friday, 17 April 2026 06:38 (three days ago)
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Can someone dig up that rtc post about pop bitches dreading having a hit because they’ll be driven out to the desert for their next video clip
― Tim F, Friday, 17 April 2026 07:59 (three days ago)
I'm still mad she didn't release "Allergic to Love"
― Doctor Madame Frances Experimento, LLC", Friday, 17 April 2026 12:17 (three days ago)
which hyperpop artist was it who did the cover of Smashing Pumpkins "Today" and is it possible that's what she means by rock
― boxedjoy, Saturday, 18 April 2026 08:50 (two days ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09PbJSRkEFQ
that was ag cook who is co-producing the rock album
― ufo, Saturday, 18 April 2026 09:12 (two days ago)
I’m a bit baffled by the speculation about whether CXCX gets “rock” after her last album kicked off with one of the most brutal rock climaxes in pop history.
― assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 18 April 2026 13:27 (two days ago)
Rock's always been part of her vocabulary. It'll just be interesting to see what she means by "rock" in 2026.
― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 18 April 2026 14:23 (two days ago)
kicked off with one of the most brutal rock climaxes
stumped by this mixed metaphor
― flopson, Saturday, 18 April 2026 14:28 (two days ago)
I want at least one song with the same backing band as her "No Fun" cover: Lee Renaldo, Sim Cain, Sal Maida, and Matt Sweeney
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OjHnpMgYGs
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 18 April 2026 14:57 (two days ago)
xp it occurred to me also, but for me the album peaks with track 1, no metaphors necessary
― assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 18 April 2026 21:00 (two days ago)