i really have no idea what to make of this album, like even whether i'm enjoying it or not
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 20:53 (twelve years ago)
i feel like i'm on the brink of being completely YESSSSS THIS IS RESONATING DEEPLY WITH ME but i can't...quite...get...there and it's the kind of thing where if you're NOT on board emotionally it's kind of functionally useless
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 20:54 (twelve years ago)
"you're the one" is a bit of a monster though
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 20:55 (twelve years ago)
albeit i think i might like "you're the one" better if it didn't plunge shamelessly into its cheesy chorus?
the brooke candy verse on this is disappointingly terrible
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 20:57 (twelve years ago)
have't heard the album but from the singles can attest that if you're on board emotionally they are the best ever
― katherine, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 21:41 (twelve years ago)
there's a vagueness that keeps me from being emotionally on board "you're the one" but that curving bass
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 21:46 (twelve years ago)
really love the lingering the verses do on "you (ha ha ha)" too
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 21:49 (twelve years ago)
Does she have her own "I Love It" on this? I am still curious to hear what she would have done with it instead of Icona Pop.
― boxedjoy, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 22:48 (twelve years ago)
I'm into this newest single "what I like". she has a knack for cadence
― monotony, Sunday, 31 March 2013 01:54 (twelve years ago)
streaming over @ pitchfork advance
― monotony, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 15:07 (twelve years ago)
This has very big Alisha's Attic vibes writ large all over it. It's a modern pop album that seems designed for people who grew up in the 90s, which is probably either really cute and endearing, or naff and silly, depending on your taste for talky-sung verses in the style of Siobhan Fahey when in Shakespeare's Sister.
― boxedjoy, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 22:50 (twelve years ago)
Charli XCX herself seems very much a pop starlet for the twenty-something crowd, in the way she nonchalantly swears and sings about sexual encounters but it's all framed in this goth-pop cuteness with easy melodies and simple vivid imagery. I can see this album's relationship to 90's r&b being comparable to the way Anniemal took 80's disco and made it sound very pop but very chic, even though this is a lot more obviously dark and menacing.
― boxedjoy, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 22:58 (twelve years ago)
aka the awful song with Brooke Candy made me nervous but I even don't mind that in the context of the album and You (Ha Ha Ha) is actually better than I remembered and the rest of it is great. The first three singles are still the best stuff here especially Nuclear Seasons but this is a pretty wonderful pop album.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 11 April 2013 03:20 (twelve years ago)
as extravagant as charli's overload of stylistic reference points is, i don't think it's what's preventing this clicking for me - basically just don't think her songwriting is quite there yet. it's a bit overstuffed but the problem is less that and more her lack of a really distinct songwriting voice
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 11 April 2013 10:38 (twelve years ago)
or just, interesting words, or something
i think i'm the only person in the world that doesn't hate the brooke candy song. the second-to-last one "how can i" would be the dud if i had to pick one
― monotony, Thursday, 11 April 2013 13:03 (twelve years ago)
You're not alone. Cloud Aura is one of her best. That said, True Romance is a let-down for me largely due to the production. My favorite track is What I Like, but even it has it's problems. Like why start of with a great intro that gets you all hyped up, only to never reference it anywhere else in the song? Still love it, but that's just one example of the many opportunities missed by this album. I expected it to be much more in the vein of Dance 4 U and Velvet Dreaming but the album's first half is like a 90's rehash of what Little Boots was doing with 80's pop.
― Cousin Slappy, Thursday, 11 April 2013 17:45 (twelve years ago)
I've been cool on her other singles but "What I Like" is marvelous.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 April 2013 17:47 (twelve years ago)
this is awesome; the two-year-old songs thread in pretty seamlessly
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 18:53 (twelve years ago)
weird but so far i prefer the album tracks to most of the singles (except "what i like" which wow). "like roses" and "take my hand" especially
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 19:19 (twelve years ago)
black roses*
Really, really, really good record.
― monotony, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 01:59 (twelve years ago)
after seeing her live last week this album is finally seriously beginning to click for me
in a way i'm glad the singles never quite did it in isolation because i get to feel the rush of "YOU'RE JUST ELECTRIC BLUE" now instead
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 22 April 2013 19:51 (twelve years ago)
CUZ I CAN TASTE YOUR LIPS ON MY LIPSYOUR KISSES TAKE ME OUT OF CONTROLAND I CAN FEEL MY BLOOOOOOOODIT'S CRAWLING THROUGH MY VEEEEEEIIIIIIIINS
somewhere, shirley manson feels proud
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 22 April 2013 19:59 (twelve years ago)
brooke candy's rap on "cloud aura" is so so bad but the rest of it is so good
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 22 April 2013 20:01 (twelve years ago)
WHY YOU WANNA GO TO SLEEPDON'T GO TO SLEEPDON'T GO TO SLEEPLET'S GO OUUUUUT
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 22 April 2013 20:02 (twelve years ago)
hmmm i gave this album a couple spins last week but i only actually liked about half of it (mostly the front half, but some later too), the rest just became this amorphous blur of whatever
― dyl, Monday, 22 April 2013 20:03 (twelve years ago)
it's taken me about a month and about...8 or 9 plays, i guess, to click
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 22 April 2013 20:04 (twelve years ago)
YOU'RE JUST ELECTRIC BLUUUUUUE is wonderful. all of this is wonderful.
except for brooke candy
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 22 April 2013 21:02 (twelve years ago)
Is "cloud aura" the same as on last year's mixtape?
― Tim F, Monday, 22 April 2013 22:33 (twelve years ago)
yeah no changes as far as i can tell
― monotony, Monday, 22 April 2013 22:42 (twelve years ago)
"set me free" is ENORMOUS and shoulda been the lead-off single instead of "you"
― monotony, Monday, 22 April 2013 22:43 (twelve years ago)
I still don't get why "I Love It" didn't get the praise this is getting, I know it's noisy and brash but that's kinda the point?
This keeps getting better on repeated listens, it's not so much that it's a grower as
― boxedjoy, Monday, 22 April 2013 22:50 (twelve years ago)
something else that I was thinking of how to explain before I hit enter, oops. It's like it's really simple but sticks way more than the disposable pop she clearly adores.
― boxedjoy, Monday, 22 April 2013 22:51 (twelve years ago)
I love that mixtape so much but "Cloud Aura" wouldn't be the tune I'd carry over from it.
― Tim F, Monday, 22 April 2013 22:51 (twelve years ago)
i never heard the mixtape - how does it compare to the album tim?
"i love it" is just completely rotten imo
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 07:52 (twelve years ago)
I haven't heard the album so I can't compare - but the mixtape is shimmering cloud-R&B which by that description should be awful but actually is excellent - "Cloud Aura" is pretty indicative of the overall sound but there's some more discoid and/or balladic stuff on there and there's no other raps.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 07:58 (twelve years ago)
There are some songs down the end of Super Ultra that could have slotted in fine, on here but for the most part the album is much stronger, which of course it was always going to be given that it has all those pre-release singles on it.
I'm a big fan of "I Love It" (which has had plenty of praise, btw - perhaps not on ILX but certainly elsewhere), but it's not something that would gel with the rest of this record at all; too daphne & celeste / bananarama. it's pummelling, brash, throw-your-hands-up-in-the-air-sometimes sort of stuff; none of the songs on true romance even remotely approach that kind of aggression.
― monotony, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 12:11 (twelve years ago)
and yes there is a stray comma in that first sentence, oops
― monotony, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 12:12 (twelve years ago)
Yeah, "I Love It" would sound totally out of place on this but I think it's strange that there's so much dislike for it on its own.
― boxedjoy, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 18:27 (twelve years ago)
"i love it" did really well on the ilm poll despite not being overwhelmingly praised here (and met with boos and hisses during the results rollout)
― dyl, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 22:58 (twelve years ago)
yeah i'd be interested to learn what is quite so rotten about "i love it" - as was mentioned upthread, obviously it's loud and obnoxious - but that's the whole purpose of the track, to convey that feeling of just not giving a fuck
― monotony, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 23:06 (twelve years ago)
I don't _love_ it as much anymore, but I like it in the same way I like Shampoo. And it's not like Icona Pop didn't sound more or less like this for years, so it's not like they "sold out" or whatever accusation you want to level.
― katherine, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 23:07 (twelve years ago)
at any rate this album is amazing. and yes, "Set Me Free" is massive but it doesn't seem to be the direction Charli XCX wants to go with her singles. alas.
― katherine, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 23:20 (twelve years ago)
(incidentally, the "Set Me Free" producer's best known for working with _Meds_-era Placebo, Sophie Ellis-Bextor, Nicola Roberts and Sohodolls, which is as good a triangulation [uh, with "tri-" replaced with "quad-" as necessary] of this album as you'll find anywhere.)
― katherine, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 23:58 (twelve years ago)
"i love it" feels clumsy and contrived and, crucially, totally unfun to me. i like don't-give-a-fuck music but it just repels me.
(katherine - picking up something i half-saw on twitter last night if i may, which is prob relevant here - your dislike of "tumblr" as a signifier. i'd say tumblr - regardless of the pockets of tumblr where this isn't the case - signifies decontextualisation above all to me, whether that's endless images/quotes plucked from the ether or the social justice kids or whatever...)
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 07:48 (twelve years ago)
oh, and GREAT review btw
http://www.mtvhive.com/2013/04/23/charli-xcx-true-romance/
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 07:50 (twelve years ago)
haha, that was actually prompted by reading a bunch of metacritic reviews of this very album. the thing is... tumblr is a huge site, with a huge and varied userbase; it's like how people say designs "look like Geocities," as if a site with millions of uses could be somehow aesthetically consistent in a way that isn't "this is how entry-level HTML from cookbooks in 1999 is probably gonna look."
my beef I think is that a lot of time it gets invoked as a kind of shorthand to sneak in pejoratives. like, if someone is trying to say that "this charli xcx album sounds like a thing teenage girls would love," then they should just say it -- and then think about why this is such an important thing to mention. or "this charli xcx album sounds trendy" -- how? why is that bad? etc.
(also, thanks!)
― katherine, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:25 (twelve years ago)
Ugh not feeling this at all, there's an underlying clumsiness to almost everything here and she's just not an enjoyable or engaging on-record presence. Awful voice too.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 25 April 2013 11:02 (twelve years ago)
Agreed, and I even like some of her mixtape material. I just can't with this unfinished-sounding album.
― Cousin Slappy, Thursday, 25 April 2013 15:31 (twelve years ago)
maybe i'm wrong but to me I'm reading this moreso as a diversion of sorts, something similar to beyoncé's the gift (an album inspired by a film without actually being its official soundtrack), rather than a fully-fledged new album campaign
― monotony, Friday, 14 November 2025 02:49 (one month ago)
it sounds like it's going to be a proper charli album (compared to the gift which wasn't quite a proper beyonce album) but i don't know if it's going to get a full-on promo campaign
i hope we get at least a cover of "wuthering heights" for radio or something
― ufo, Friday, 14 November 2025 03:32 (one month ago)
This is big enough to get its own thread. I like this song a lot more than the first one.
― Bee OK, Friday, 14 November 2025 04:05 (one month ago)
HeathcliffIt's meI'm Charli
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 14 November 2025 04:06 (one month ago)
I'm so GO-O-O-OATLet me in at your window
― assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 14 November 2025 06:40 (one month ago)
lol
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 14 November 2025 08:21 (one month ago)
lmao
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 14 November 2025 09:23 (one month ago)
― ufo, Thursday, November 13, 2025 10:32 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
ok but there’s no way she can sing this song lol
― harper valley paul thomas anderson (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 November 2025 12:27 (one month ago)
that's part of the fun!
― ufo, Friday, 14 November 2025 13:48 (one month ago)
Maybe we get at least a John Cale cover of "Wuthering Heights."
― The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 November 2025 14:03 (one month ago)
I'm pretty surprised the last dinner party haven't covered that yet
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 14 November 2025 15:45 (one month ago)
I can't be the only person a little disappointed this wasn't an Erasure cover
― Doctor Madame Frances Experimento, LLC", Saturday, 15 November 2025 03:51 (one month ago)
This one's for all my mean girls
Talent agency Gersh has dropped Succession actor Dasha Nekrasova as a client following an interview she conducted with white nationalist Nick Fuentes on her podcast Red Scare.
Nekrasova has additionally been dropped from a previously announced role in actor Gabriel Basso’s directorial debut Iconoclast, THR has confirmed.
Nekrasova told Fuentes at the top of the more than two and a half hour podcast that “I’m such a fan, honestly.” They talked about Hasan Piker, vaccinations and Kanye West, among other topics.
― visiual system cohernent image. . fttf . equivament. for so (President Keyes), Monday, 17 November 2025 16:07 (one month ago)
what is the connection to Charli XCX?
― whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Monday, 17 November 2025 23:01 (one month ago)
oh god not this again
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Monday, 17 November 2025 23:04 (one month ago)
the nyc red scare social milieu is parallel, if not intersecting with, the selection of “it girls” in charli’s sphere
― mh, Monday, 17 November 2025 23:04 (one month ago)
agree with J0rdan though, it’s not anything worth thinking much about
― mh, Monday, 17 November 2025 23:05 (one month ago)
Mean Girls is specifically about Dasha, not just parallel to her scene
― visiual system cohernent image. . fttf . equivament. for so (President Keyes), Tuesday, 18 November 2025 00:05 (one month ago)
Time to own the things you promote
― visiual system cohernent image. . fttf . equivament. for so (President Keyes), Tuesday, 18 November 2025 00:06 (one month ago)
did charli say that or just the active fandom of which you are a part
― mh, Tuesday, 18 November 2025 00:08 (one month ago)
https://www.thelineofbestfit.com/news/red-scares-dasha-nekrasova-confirms-charli-xcx-wrote-mean-girls-about-her
― visiual system cohernent image. . fttf . equivament. for so (President Keyes), Tuesday, 18 November 2025 00:13 (one month ago)
What fandom? The hating Nazis club?
is this reddit
― mh, Tuesday, 18 November 2025 00:42 (one month ago)
Yes
― visiual system cohernent image. . fttf . equivament. for so (President Keyes), Tuesday, 18 November 2025 01:50 (one month ago)
Good piece from her, I thought:
https://itscharlibb.substack.com/p/the-death-of-cool
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 December 2025 16:06 (two weeks ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pxqhi7Sgvu8
― Number None, Thursday, 11 December 2025 17:13 (one week ago)
at least someone still takes real art seriously
― whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Thursday, 11 December 2025 18:28 (one week ago)
Ha. I wonder if she will be speaking about “cool” at next Pop Conference?
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 11 December 2025 18:35 (one week ago)
I quite honestly suggested to Robin James that a chat between the two of them would be perfect for one!
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 December 2025 18:48 (one week ago)
It does fill me with a certain amount of dread that people feel the need in 2025 to mount a defense of why something can be popular and at the same time great, or why mixing high and low art is valid, haven't we already spent most of the 20th century establishing that? But then I've never studied at the Slade, perhaps I am just privileged to run in less snobby circles.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 11 December 2025 21:53 (one week ago)
Well she was talking about art school kids, presumably 10 years ago or more.
― This Thrilling Saga is the Top Show on Netflix Right Now (President Keyes), Thursday, 11 December 2025 23:55 (one week ago)
there are still plenty of snobs, and some of those snobs also adopt some incredibly cheesy low-as-high art in an effort to look like they believe it's "real art"
looking sideways at all of the rich people buying what are basically oversized, shiny funko pops for millions. if you want a cartoonish trinket, you can buy a cartoonish trinket!
― mh, Friday, 12 December 2025 01:13 (one week ago)
the art school kids in Porto in the 00's were super into tamagochis and My Little Pony, perhaps London was just behind the times
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 12 December 2025 10:37 (one week ago)