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Odds to appear on the front cover

Wire 20-1
Throwing Muses 40-1
The Stranglers 75-1
Underworld 100-1
King Crimson 200-1
Killing Joke 250-1
The Associates 400-1
The Chameleons 500-1
Rush 1000-1
Porcupine Tree 10,000-1

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 08:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Ringo Starr evens

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 08:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Ringo's had his own front cover already when they did one of their special fleece the punters 4 different Beatles covers.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 08:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Have Talking Heads had a Mojo front cover?

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 08:42 (eighteen years ago) link

There are never enough Beatles covers as far as Mojo are concerned!

Nick Hornby - evens

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 08:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Have Roxy Music had a Mojo front cover?

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 08:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Its time they gave Parliament/Funkadelic a front cover and just devoted the entire magazine to them and all the spin offs.

Again that's the problem about funk/hip-hop fans. Your extreme intolerance towards anything that is not funk/hip-hop/R&B related.

Mojo have never devoted their entire magazine to one single genre, and never will. They have done funk specials, and they will again. They have also done hip-hop specials, and the likelyness of Mojo putting Public Enemy on their front page is way bigger than the likeliness of Mixmag or Kingsize putting Coldplay on their front page. Who who is the most intolerant here?

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 08:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Wrong Geir, they've done Glam rock and Krautrock specials.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 08:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Who who?

Daddy you're a fool to cry....

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Ringo has already had a lot more attention than he deserves. He was a lucky man to become the drummer for a group otherwise consisting of three geniuses.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Where is Plastic Ono Band?

Samuel KB Amphong (Dada), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:10 (eighteen years ago) link

They are not appearing in scene of big sounds recently.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:15 (eighteen years ago) link

(I speak from the perspective of someone who for two years unsuccessfully lobbied U***t to give Todd Rundgren the front cover and 30 pages inside)

weirdly, i wouldn't have thought that would be a tough pitch there - isn't paul lester a huge Todd fan?

i am not a nugget (stevie), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:15 (eighteen years ago) link

The Mojo readership probably prefer "Imagine" to "Plastic Ono Band". You see, they have taste. :)

As for Todd Rundgren, you would have been more likely to succeed with Mojo. Select usually prefer "safe" cover stories.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I'd rather read about the making of "Plastic Ono Band" than "Imagine" which is fairly well served already.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:18 (eighteen years ago) link

What I mean is that every other aspect of the Beatles seems to have been covered ad nauseum but I don't remember ever reading anything very much about Lennon+Ono/ Plastic Ono Band

Samuel KB Amphong (Dada), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:19 (eighteen years ago) link

(I speak from the perspective of someone who for two years unsuccessfully lobbied U***t to give Todd Rundgren the front cover and 30 pages inside)

weirdly, i wouldn't have thought that would be a tough pitch there - isn't paul lester a huge Todd fan?

You couldn't get a huger Todd fan than PL. But neither of us was able to get past Jonesey Customs...

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:20 (eighteen years ago) link

"Plastic Ono Band" is probably the least Beatles sounding anyone in The Beatles has ever released, and as such may be a more risque thing to write about. Yet, I am pretty sure it was well-covered in one of their Lennon-specials.

And, btw. they have yet to make a "Mind Games" special, a "Tug Of War" special, a "Flowers In The Dirt" special or a "Cloud Nine" special. All of those were way better albums than "Plastic Ono Band".

You couldn't get a huger Todd fan than PL. But neither of us was able to get past Jonesey Customs...

There is an inhouse rule in Select that if they are ever to do a cover story of a more obscure act, it will always have to be some Americana act. :)

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Where is Band band?

Samuel KB Amphong (Dada), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:24 (eighteen years ago) link

They must be on the next cover of "Select"...

Where is Duke Ellingham Swing Band band?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Mojo usually feature acts whose fans were "around at the time". Sadly few people who were "around at the time" in the case of Duke Ellington are alive today.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:26 (eighteen years ago) link

CCR deserve it. But I don't think their story is very interesting (see also Talk Talk et al)

Samuel KB Amphong (Dada), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:27 (eighteen years ago) link

CCS would be more interesting than CCR.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Talk Talk would indeed have been interesting. For instance along with related acts such as David Sylvian and The Blue Nile.

But I guess they are sort of too narrow for the Mojo readership. Whenever they do keyboard based 80s music they do something a bit broader and more commercial.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe I should try pitching Talk Talk to Disc and Music Echo.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Well there was a feature on Talk Talk in Mojo and it wasn't exactly a riveting read - moody band go into studio for a long time to make album, moody band leave studio and do nothing for a long time, moody band go into studio for a long time to make another album, moody band leave studio and do nothing for a long time once again, leader of moody band quits moody band and does nothing for a long time, former leader of moody band goes into studio for a long time to make solo album, former leader of moody band learns the clarinet (most exciting part of the story), former leader of moody band does nothing for a long time

Samuel KB Amphong (Dada), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:33 (eighteen years ago) link

kid creole and the coconuts -- 30:1

Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Moody Blues - evens

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Has Alex Harvey been done yet?

Samuel KB Amphong (Dada), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:42 (eighteen years ago) link

... I mean he's not that popular but his story is more interesting than, "...and then I quit the band and spent two years learning the clarinet"

Samuel KB Amphong (Dada), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Bigger than Elvis in the Glasgow I grew up in, Alex/Vambo was...

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Well obviously... and in Aus too

Samuel KB Amphong (Dada), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Alex was done some years ago, i'm sure - the pix were awesome. his brother was electrocuted onstage, yes? if so, definitely in Mojo.

i am not a nugget (stevie), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 10:01 (eighteen years ago) link

And, btw. they have yet to make a "Mind Games" special, a "Tug Of War" special, a "Flowers In The Dirt" special or a "Cloud Nine" special. All of those were way better albums than "Plastic Ono Band".

The quality of an album has no bearing on whether the story behind it is interesting or not.

I guess it's unlikely Duran*2 will ever aquiesce to do a 'making of' "Thank You" special, but hey it must have been interesting making a totally rub* album.

*received wisdom, haven't heared any of it.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 10:02 (eighteen years ago) link

his brother was electrocuted onstage, yes?

Yes, Les Harvey.

Samuel KB Amphong (Dada), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 10:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Its time they gave Parliament/Funkadelic a front cover and just devoted the entire magazine to them and all the spin offs.

Again that's the problem about funk/hip-hop fans. Your extreme intolerance towards anything that is not funk/hip-hop/R&B related.

Geir's reply is the funniest thing I've ever read on here by him.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:15 (eighteen years ago) link

So when will Mixmag or Kingsize feature a Coldplay/Keane/Travis special then?

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Who wants that?

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:47 (eighteen years ago) link

When hell freezes over. Mixmag sucks bigtime these days. gave up on it years ago.
(FYI Geir im not into hip-hop so i cant comment about hip-hop mags.
But didnt some hip-hop/RnB bands do a phil collins tribute? Then anything is possible)

Sometime in the future a hip-hop band will sample that piano riff on clocks.

x-post

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:49 (eighteen years ago) link

About the same percentage of the Mojo readers want a hip-hop special of Mojo, I guess.

But didnt some hip-hop/RnB bands do a phil collins tribute?

In a hip-hop style. Doing it in Collins' original style would have been very unlikely.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:51 (eighteen years ago) link

I bet it was just as dull!
Phil should've stayed behind the drums and quit music when Peter Gabriel left Genesis.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Sometime in the future a hip-hop band will sample that piano riff on clocks.

That just doesn't count. When will a hip-hop band do a cover of "Clocks" that contain every single verse sung from the beginning to the end, containing absolutely no rap parts, and with a backing track containing all the chords of the original, over a straight 4/4-beat?

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Phil should've stayed behind the drums and quit music when Peter Gabriel left Genesis.

Then the brilliant "A Trick Of The Tail" and "Wind And Wuthering" albums would never have happened.
(And as for his 80s solo work, it cannot compare to the brilliance of the 70s Genesis stuff, but it is at least a lot better than anything ever released in the hip-hop genre)

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Didn't Mixmag just have some NME indie band on the cover last week or did I imagine that thread?

jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Coldplay are hardly an "NME indie band" though.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:57 (eighteen years ago) link

This used to be a good thread.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 13:16 (eighteen years ago) link

That just doesn't count. When will a hip-hop band do a cover of "Clocks" that contain every single verse sung from the beginning to the end, containing absolutely no rap parts, and with a backing track containing all the chords of the original, over a straight 4/4-beat?

When will Coldplay, Travis, Keane cover rap songs while actually rapping instead of singing?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 13:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Probably never. Which is why there is no need for Mojo to cover hip-hop particularly much.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 17:02 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost can a moderator replace the above long URL with this:
http://tinyurl.com/sxqze

meanwhile nominations are in for this year's MOJO Honours
http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/music/news/article570939.ece

The nominations

Best New Act

Corinne Bailey Rae

Guillemots

Amadou and Mariam

Teddy Thompson

Archie Bronson Outfit

The Raconteurs

Inspiration Award

Sparks

Johnny Cash

Buzzcocks

Paul Weller

The Fall

Icon

David Bowie

Scott Walker

Johnny Cash

Neil Young

Van Morrison

Songwriter Award

Joe Strummer

Richard Hawley

Nick Cave

Chrissie Hynde

Kate Bush

Catalogue Release of the Year

Johnny Cash: Legend

Talking Heads: Reissue Series

Orange Juice: The Glasgow School

Various: Anthems in Eden

Various: Strangely Strange But Oddly Normal

Jeff Wayne: War of the Worlds

Vision Award

Kraftwerk: Minimum-Maximum

Bob Dylan: No Direction Home

Ramones: The Story of the Ramones

Dig! [documentary on the Dandy Warhols and the Brian Jonestown Massacre]

The Flaming Lips: The Fearless Freaks

Mayor of the Sunset Strip [documentary on the history of fame]

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 11:27 (eighteen years ago) link

^^^ oh maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan

Are you addicted to struggling with your horse? (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 13:31 (six months ago) link

yeah it's a tragedy that it never happened and now that Terry is gone it never will, he had so much energy to make it happen he cared way more about that band than the members did

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 13:41 (six months ago) link

Yeah, the impression Bob gave me last time I interviewed him is that they had lawyers, they'd approached Ginn, but that it was just too hard, and in the end he's just written it all off as a lost cause. It's such a shame.

SST seem to have bumped up their vinyl represses over the last couple of years, but I don't see them doing any deluxe reissues with outtakes, etc, and that's a shame. I remember telling Carducci when I was researching my Flag book that it was a tragedy they weren't celebrating the back catalog that way, and that the CDs didn't sound great and could do with a remaster at the very least, but he argued that they sound fine. Still...

Big Bong Theory (stevie), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 13:44 (six months ago) link

Interesting and very sad. I was going by that interview Grant did where he claimed Bob was asking for too much control and too big of a share of the catalog in order to get it away from SST, but I guess a lot happened after that bump in the road.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 20:56 (six months ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.mojo4music.com/magazine/latest-issues/mojo-368-july-2024-paul-weller/

Weller cover, Byrds related cover cd

koogs, Saturday, 18 May 2024 18:49 (five months ago) link

two months pass...

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