Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavilion (2009)

How the hell can Nick and I be on the same page about anything.

wow this album sounds bad on mac speakers

yes it does. like there's tin cans caught in the fanbelt. (i know macs don't actually have fanbelts, but if they did.)

You guys must be using old Macs -- it sounds great on my two month old MacBook!

my macbook is a year old. but i don't really think the problem's with the speakers. i think animal collective just sounds like tin cans caught in a fan belt.

"I kind of love it, for all its obvious arrival at this point"

yep, makes me wonder how the next record will sound.

so i see this thread is in the big backlash phase..
this record will be more objectively appreciated from 2010 and forward, when all the buzz will eventually end.
in the meantime, i think it's good, not as good as feels/sung,but still

sort of understand the perception that this is a treble/midrange album with no low end. though there's a big bass pulse in a lot of tunes, it often sounds grafted on, like a decorative afterthought. also, though i liked MPP a lot up front, i'm finding that it doesn't reveal much beyond what it first gives away. not a record of unexpected depths (despite the promo art). this isn't a complaint so much as an observation -- i still like it, but i suspect people will be a lot less enthusiastic about it by year's end.

yeah the brightness of their sound didn't bug me as much on feels for some reason, and i really actually like the skittery quality of some of the older stuff. but on this one it seems overdone to me.

all the reasons for the question: what happend to AC in this record? are in My Girls lyrics

so i see this thread is in the big backlash phase..

This leaves 10 months for the counter-backlash to take hold before the 2009 best-of poll.

saw these guys live last night. they sounded tired, i felt old.

i hope they're bored of playing the same songs over and over again. i like this album more and more every time i listen to it, but it's about time they change it up

I saw them last week and was blown away. I like the new album fine, but seeing them live made me like it more.

it's about time they change it up

Why, are you seeing them at every show?

I'm rather looking forward to the "tired" setlist with all the "hits" as it's rather unusual for them to do.

Anyone see them last night in London?

It was like seeing Ozric Tentacles at a free festival, they should have gotten The Enid to support.

Yeah.
Thought they were pretty great. Esp start, Lion in a Coma into My Girls, into Summertime Clothes. Pretty much loved it, but never seen them before so don't know if this was their 'usual' kind of show or not.

I woz there!

It was great, but again, I'd never seen them before and only know a couple of the records.

I get yr Ozrics ref. It kind of reminded me of seeing the Orb in 1992, but I think that was just the giant glowing white globe suspended above the stage.

Anyway, it was WAY more electronic than I was expecting (although I shouldn't have been surprised) and there were just great chest-shaking bass whoomps everywhere and loads more reverb and FX on the vocals than on record. Just totally exhilerating disorientating stuff.

Shame the crowd were so diffident.

so I finally got to spend some time with this record, I was out of the country during the whole leak/hype/rickroll merriment and too busy to listen during the backlash phase. I like it more than Strawberery Jam for sure, but it all seems downhill after Summertime Clothes because it is front loaded like crazy. The jew's harp on Lion In A Coma is questionable, the last song is like an AC parody, and daddy issues recur throughout, but the first four tracks make it all worthwhile.

oh, youre just in phase one.thats not the end of the story:
wait till you get tired of track 1-4, than discover the middle section of the record and think it's great,and than (phase 3) get tired of the whole thing and neglect it till next year, when youll miss it again.

I dunno 'bout that but I will certainly continue to throw the record on for a while to come. No More Running is also v nice, I think the rest of the record is way stronger than SJ. I'm not sure what I think about the whole low end issue discussed above.

"also, though i liked MPP a lot up front, i'm finding that it doesn't reveal much beyond what it first gives away. not a record of unexpected depths"

kinda otm

it all seems downhill after Summertime Clothes because it is front loaded like crazy

I agree generally, but track 5 is the album's best so no way does it go downhill after "Summertime Clothes," not quite yet.

Strawberry Jam highly underrated, btw.

"bluish" grows on you after a few listens, once the very wilson boys vocal harmony in the chorus bridge sinks in. that is a gateway song to zeno's phase 2

i dont know how i feel about the "doesnt reveal much beyong what it first gives away" comment(s). every song is so god-damned layered and dense i'm constantly discovering new aspects of a beat or melody that had hitherto gone unnoticed (or at the very elast unappreciated). most of the melodies are really accessible it's true but they're hard to get bored of, and my favourites are constantly shifting positions.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2009/feb/06/simon-reynolds-animal-collective

I don't care much for Reynolds' music taste, for the larger part, and I find some of his thoughts muddled with nonsense ("black capitalism" as an economic theory in a discussion about Motown?) but his article on AC reminds me of his article on Vampire Weekend: thought provoking and insightful, even if I think he's possibly reading too far into things at times.

What I enjoy about Simon Reynolds is that he's always got a theory for why something is happening in music. No dots are ever left unconnected.

I quite enjoyed reading that article, and I think he makes some interesting and relevant points about middlebrow, etc.

But MPP is still fucking horrific.

Comments on that article way better than the article itself...

stoddy

06 Feb 09, 12:25pm

Jesus Christ - this is one of the most tedious, pretentious and pointless pieces of drivel i've seen appear on the Gruniad's music blog. Turgid, unappetising fare and the sound very clearly of one man disappearing happily up his own arse. Rather like Animal Collective in fact...

another classic...

fakeycakemaker

07 Feb 09, 11:54am

I find it plain funny how Reynolds' stock as an alternative music journalist is just based upon his anxieties from a mid-class, record collecting, obscurist p.o.v over the popularity of a band....he always comes back to the bourgeois experience of listening and watching music as some all encompassing envelope, and it's both interesting and very dull how this gets him nowhere, only repeating the stereotype of the (male) artist in a perpetual child like state of "creativity"

aren't Animal Collective, strictly speaking, emerging reborn from their own arses.

Are there going to be any remixes of "My Girls"?

Does it really need a remix? A coworker of mine was at a recent Prodigy gig and he said that Busy P opened and played "My Girls" as if it were, "just another banger".

i know Hatchmatik did a remix, for one. but i agree with uncannydan; it's pretty unnecessary.

i approve of that experiment

because I am poor and lazy I am just listening to it now and it is good. probably their best yet (altho I haven't heard Strawberry Jam).

don't forget that you're also old

right. I forgot. alzheimer's, you know.

if sick mouthy is against it then it is probably great and the converse is also true.

i approve of that experiment

seconded. that's how I always hoped animal collective sounded.

My issue with Reynolds' article (and the general response to MPP) is that I really don't see this as a breakthrough album for them. To me it sounds like Animal Collective doing what Animal Collective have been doing since 'Feels' - watery eliptical psychedelia with interesting melodic and rhythmic textures and varying the level on the tuneful/experimental rock/noise/dance continuum. It's not a 'Kid A' or even a 'Sung Tongs' (which, along with most of the pre-'Feels' era AC, works as an individual album concept in its own right).
I don't see why MPP is any more commercial nor critically worthy than Feels, Strawberry Jam or anything else they've released since 2005, it's just a continuation of the sound they seem to have settled into.

Feels towers above SJ and MPP imo.

Comments on that article way better than the article itself...

catpiano

09 Feb 09, 2:42am

Luckily music critics of the ILM variety are easily ignored, since music blogs have made them outdated (and many are run by much more knowledgeable people, besides). Now all that is left for them are these petty and laughable forays into dumbed-down cultural criticism. In a few years all of this garbage will cease to exist and these people will write for free or be forced to get real jobs.

Ahem.

you know he or she is right.

you know he or she isn't making any sense at all.

http://imgboot.com/images/moullet/acconanwb7.jpg

best closed caption ever?

so sad to admit ilm time somewhere besides ilm

I've decided to start listening to this properly now, and while I don't think it's as interesting and diverse as pre-Feels work, it's definitely the most consistently great of all their later stuff. I think I got about 8 tracks in and realised I'd enjoyed every track so far, while most AC albums no matter how great have a few clunkers.

Did anyone else here manage to order the Animal Crack Box? I think I was just lucky as I saw the e-mail from fusetron popping in and ordered. At least, I think I'm lucky, since I seem to have paid for it already. Their website now says this, not surprisingly:

Artist: ANIMAL COLLECTIVE
Title: Animal Crack Box
Format: 3 LP Box Set
Label: Catsup Plate
Country: USA
Price: $92.00

***DUE TO OVERWHELMING DEMAND WE HAVE SUSPENDED TAKING ORDERS UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. IT WILL TAKE A DAY OR TWO TO SORT OUT ALL THE ORDERS UP TO THIS POINT. IF THERE ARE ANY COPIES LEFT WE WILL ANNOUNCE IT ON THE NEXT EMAIL UPDATE. THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR THEIR ENTHUSIASM***

"just lucky"

What is on it:

*Artist: ANIMAL COLLECTIVE
Title: Animal Crack Box
Format: 3LP box set
Label: Catsup Plate
Country: USA
Price: $92.00

IF YOU ARE ORDERING JUST THE ANIMAL COLLECTIVE BOX SET GO HERE < http://www.fusetronsound.com/crackBox.html > FOR
AUTOMATED PAYPAL LINKS

***LIMIT ONE PER CUSTOMER***

"After almost three years of planning Catsup Plate is proud to announce the release of Animal Crack Box, a three LP collection of Animal Collective recordings spanning the years 2000 through 2003. These songs were recorded live, at practice sessions and in other non-studio environs and most have never been released in any form whatsoever. And those that have been release sound so markedly different that long-time fans will not be disappointed. Throughout their career, Animal Collective has existed at the crossroads of uncompromising experimentalism, classic song structure and ecstatic expressionism -- a crossroads that this set further underscores. The songs veer from the early percussion/feedback wailings to the Campfire Songs style acoustica to wall of sound forest children vocal chanting. The sonics are rough in places as these were originally recorded more for reference than for an actual release, but the power of the songs and the bands uncompromising intensity are apparent all the way through. Fans of the bands recent work may be surprised by the cacophony at times, but peel away the layers of sound and the essential compositional and performative brilliance is staring you in the face.
Each record jacket is silkscreened in four overprinted colors and housed in a super sturdy four overprinted color silkscreened outer slipcase held together by a two color silkscreened "obi" strip. This thing is a 12 x 12 brick. The recording selections were overseen by Animal Collective themselves, who poured over hundreds of hours of tapes to come up with this tracklisting. The Hieronymus-Bosch-meets-the-early-Looney-Tunes-work-of-Max-Fleischer illustrations were drawn by Jon Vermilyea and the whole package was art directed and designed by Rob Carmichael. This is a single edition of 1000 copies, with no digital or CD version planned." - Catsup Plate.

Tracklisting:

A1. Jimmy Raven
A2. Ahhh Good Country
A3. Iko Ovo

A1 and A2 recorded live to MiniDisc 18 September 2000 at the Cooler, NYC by Avey/Panda. A3 recorded live to MiniDisc fall 2000 at N. 4th Practice Space, Brooklyn by Avey/Panda.

B1. Pumpkin Gets a Snakebite
B2. Pumpkins Hallucination
B3. Pumpkins Funeral

B1 and B3 recorded live to MiniDisc February 2001 at N. 4th Practice Space, Brooklyn by Avey/Panda/Geologist. B2 recorded live to MiniDisc 25 February 2001 at Mercury Lounge, NYC by Avey/Panda/Geologist.

C1. Jungle Heat
C2. Hey Friend
C3. De Soto De Son

C1 and C2 recorded live to MiniDisc winter early 2001 at 67 Atlantic Ave, Brooklyn by Avey/Panda. C3 recorded live to MiniDisc August 2000 at Mercury Lounge, NYC by Avey/Panda.

D1. Oh Sweet
D2. Young Prayer #2
D3. Do the Nurse

D1 partly recorded live to MiniDisc summer 2002 at N. 4th Practice Space, Brooklyn by Avey/Deakin and partly recorded live to MiniDisc 18 October 2002 at Warsaw, Brooklyn by Avey. D2 recorded live to MiniDisc fall 2002 at Bard College, NYC by Avey/Panda. D3 recorded live to MiniDisc 18 October 2002 at Warsaw, Brooklyn by Avey.

E1. Ice Cream Factory
E2. Hey Light
E3. Two Sails

E1 and E3 recorded live to MiniDisc March 2002 at Tonic, NYC by Avey/ Panda/Geologist/Deakin. E2 recorded live to MiniDisc winter early 2002 at N. 4th Practice Space, Brooklyn by Avey/Panda/Geologist/Deakin.

F1. Dont Believe the Pilot
F2. Who Could Win a Rabbit
F3. Mouth Wooed Her
F4. Covered in Frogs
F5. We Tigers

F1 and F2 recorded live to MiniDisc July 2003 at New World Brewery, Tampa, FL by Avey/Panda. F3 recorded live to MiniDisc June 2003 at a house party in Brooklyn by Avey/Panda. F4 recorded live to MiniDisc sometime and somewhere in 2003 (recording details are lost) by Avey/Panda. F5 recorded live to MiniDisc October 2003 at Concorde 2, Brighton, UK by Avey/Panda.