Itunes, Billboard, and the marginalization of black music and black audiences in America

xp I'd be much more forgiving of an urban ac station doing that. I wish there was an urban ac station here.

pretty sure I would drive off the road if I heard that Garfield Minus Garfield version of "Promiscuous." I'd think I was going insane.

hahahah Garfield Minus Garfield, damn that was a perfect analogy

loool

"...bring that on.......you know what i mean.......hey is that the truth or are you talking trash?"

Oh, something I noticed! At least one top 40-ish station here has been cutting T.I.'s verse out of "Blurred Lines". What is this, the early 90s?

― raggett neds of your summer dress (The Reverend), Friday, January 31, 2014

jesus

lol i have been listening intently to the hot ac station here to see if they'll edit juicy j out of katy perry's "dark horse" even tho the same station plays flo rida and pitbull often now (a few yrs ago that station edited snoop and kanye out of their respective katy perry singles, but they hadn't hopped onto the pit/flo train yet at that pt)

i'm glad there are actual urban and urban ac stations where i am now. the last place i lived didn't have any hip-hop/r&b stations (except for an 80s r&b station which was admittedly great), just a rhythmic guetta-fest.

Where I'm standing, the Garfield thing never went away - ''Payphone'' without Wiz Khalifa, ''California Gurls'' without Snoop...

where are you standing

i haven't listened to much terrestrial music radio in a few years but the last time i can recall encountering the garfield thing in as blatant a manner as mentioned above w/ ti and 'blurred lines' was the jay-z'less verzion of 'crazy in love' star 94 would play at the time, just these long weird instrumental passages. otherwise everything since i've encountered has been like the odb'less version of 'fantasy' where it's a disappointment but it's ultimately just a normal radio edit of the song, if you didn't know what was missing you wouldn't know it was missing.

let's not call all rapper-less radio edits Garfield Minus Garfield, though, "Promiscuous" was special

the summer "california gurls" came out i was working somewhere with radio on 24/7 and i never heard the snoop verse

balls: "California Gurls" was in Columbus, "Payphone" was in New York, not sure what stations though. Agreed that "Promiscuous" is particularly absurd since it is actually a real 'duet' in the sense that the two performers are characters addressing each other in the plot of the song. Though I always did like the idea that Adam Levine was actually trying to call Wiz Khalifa, explaining why the latter seemed so grouchy in his verse.

Aside from the whitewashing, which is noxious, these edits are also dumb and annoying just because they often wreck the structure of a song, effectively chopping the bridge and dropping you back into an endless verse-chorus rotation. Reminds me of some dude pointing out the "Born to Run" epic effect imparted by the often-omitted portions of "Semi-Charmed Life." The version of "No Scrubs" without the rap always feels like a chore to me for this reason - okay, okay, you don't want any scrubs, we get it!

Oh I just remembered a really wild recent example -- I always heard "The Way," the hit by white R&B singer Ariana Grande featuring white rapper Mac Miller, on pop radio with Mac Miller's verse intact. when the local urban station picked up on the song a few months later, they'd only play it with Mac's verse edited out. the rap station took the white rapper off the song!

I only heard the Snoop-less California Gurls on the Hot AC station.

otherwise everything since i've encountered has been like the odb'less version of 'fantasy' where it's a disappointment but it's ultimately just a normal radio edit of the song, if you didn't know what was missing you wouldn't know it was missing.

― balls, Saturday, February 1, 2014 2:50 PM Bookmark

The ODB version was a remix, the ODB-less version is just the original.

i loved your tweet about that song
https://twitter.com/reverenddollars/status/402614350998827008

last run of posts = wow america is even more fucked up than i knew. boggling at you all. why has there not been a revolution?

give me mac miller verses or give me death amirite

It is quite depressing the state of radio in the USA atm

Revolutionary zeitgeist atm is the exclusive province of white ppl afraid for their guns and with a deep hatred for universal health care

Mac Miller verse perhaps edited out to save audience from having to wince at that line about American Beauty and Bruce Almighty

yeah juicy j is edited out of "dark horse" on the hot ac station

rappers getting edited out of pop songs happened even when music by black artists ruled pop music

when i was a kid i distinctly remember hearing a version of "young'n (holla back)" on the miami pop station that was like 1.5 verses with the chorused looped double the amount of times it appears in the original

hell I even remember the lame rap in Black Box's "Strike It Up" getting excised

america is even more fucked up than i knew. boggling at you all. why has there not been a revolution?

revolution began in seattle last night; will steamroll eastward. until: socialism.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1600078.1391405583!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/super-bowl-seattle.jpg

rappers getting edited out of pop songs happened even when music by black artists ruled pop music

obviously this is true but i posted that b/c i had made a post wondering about whether he would be edited out of that song earlier upthread, + the hot ac station (that i assume is pretty normal among stations of that format) now regularly plays rap in the form of flo rida and pitbull and yet it still does this w/ katy perry songs, even this one whose production is pretty shamelessly rap-influenced. it's just bizarre to me.

rap in the form of flo rida and pitbull doesn't count

or the black eyed peas

yeah they are like basically saying c&c music factory was rap cuzza freedom williams

I heard "Dark Horse" for the first time today, starting during Juicy's verse and was like "YEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH" and then screwfaced so hard when Katy Perry came in.

that is hilarious

this week is probably the first time there have been 3 black artists in the top 10 (as the main artists, not featured acts) in a while: Beyonce with Jay-Z at #2, Jason DeRule with 2 Chainz at #4, Pharrell at #8. of course, the rest of the top 10 also includes A Great Big World, OneRepublic, Passenger and TWO Lorde songs.

First time since April, when "Stay", "Started From the Bottom", "Love Me" were in the top 10.

And as I noted on twitter, Beyonce is now only the third living black female artist to have a top 10 hit in the 2010s.

goddamn

wha??

rihanna
alicia keys
beyonce
?

wait, hang on, nicky minaj too

Alicia Keys has not had a US top 10 hit in the 2010s

probably thinking of Empire State of Mind which was 09

ahhh yes

she charted in the UK later on that i think?

there were other black women who cracked the top 10 in the UK, i.e. emeli sande, alexis jordan

And Girl on Fire peaked at 11.

fun fact: alexandra burke had three UK top 10s in 2010 alone

And Girl on Fire peaked at 11.

this is crazy to me, i felt like every radio station in the world was playing this song on nonstop rotation for like 4 months

that one had a really long tail but not that high of a peak

man i just uh... fell into a wikipedia rabbit hole reading about the billboard charts and their relation to AT40

i'm out now, everything intact

that wiki's on fire