You're welcome!
― Evan, Monday, 21 April 2014 20:05 (ten years ago) link
i ordered from them years ago and the credit card company caught a fraud later on and they said it came from there. I guess they "lost" details. I wont be ordering from them
― Scooby Doom (۩), Monday, 21 April 2014 20:20 (ten years ago) link
23 dollars for an Aerosmith album, even brand new, is insane!
― waterbabies (waterface), Monday, 21 April 2014 20:23 (ten years ago) link
lol blue rodeo for 30+. i think i would have to pay someone to buy an original copy of that.
― scott seward, Monday, 21 April 2014 20:24 (ten years ago) link
waterface OTM
I found a copy of the Alvarius B/SRB split on Discogs for $20, doubt I would have paid much less than that on Saturday.
― sleeve, Monday, 21 April 2014 20:26 (ten years ago) link
(with postage)
― sleeve, Monday, 21 April 2014 20:29 (ten years ago) link
i actually got a copy of the one thing i wanted! the moles thing. redscroll in connecticut posted their list of what they had left and i bought it from them via discogs. 40 bucks. seemed like a nice price. i've seen it elsewhere for a hundred already. yay!
here's the stuff they still have (as of the last couple of hours anyway)
http://redscrollrecords.com/2014/04/rsd14-leftovers-21st-of-april-2014-update.html
http://www.discogs.com/seller/Redscroll
― scott seward, Monday, 21 April 2014 20:31 (ten years ago) link
thanks skot. I've decided to buy the breadwiner from them. Cheers!
― Scooby Doom (۩), Monday, 21 April 2014 20:35 (ten years ago) link
Redscroll records is great! Great guys.
― Evan, Monday, 21 April 2014 20:47 (ten years ago) link
I hadn't heard of bullmoose before today. Prices looked good.
― Evan, Monday, 21 April 2014 20:51 (ten years ago) link
Argghh $22 shipping
― Scooby Doom (۩), Monday, 21 April 2014 20:56 (ten years ago) link
This has been a great afternoon for me. I now have all the things I wanted to get from RSD at prices I can live with even though I was unable to visit any shops on Saturday. Thanks for the links guys. Just finished by wishlist with the LCD Soundsystem box set and the The The/DJ Food Giant 12".
― brotherlovesdub, Monday, 21 April 2014 21:21 (ten years ago) link
I can vouch for Red Scroll. Recently (like last week) ordered an album from them through Discogs and they were fantastic.
― austinato (Austin), Monday, 21 April 2014 22:25 (ten years ago) link
I live in NJ but get there whenever I can. If not I check to see what used records they get in which they post as a list with prices every Tuesday. Also if I come across a very fairly priced record on discogs often I then realize it's their listing.
― Evan, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 00:06 (ten years ago) link
lol blue rodeo for 30+. i think i would have to pay someone to buy an original copy of that.― scott seward, Monday, April 21, 2014 3:24 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― scott seward, Monday, April 21, 2014 3:24 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah, some of the titles they choose to reissue on deluxxxxe vinyl are weird choices... stuff where original copies sell for $5–$10. i don't know if they really think people want the 180g, or just don't like seeking out used/old vinyl (as easy as pie in this era). or they are after the truly ignorant who have no idea they could find anything otherwise.
― espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 00:45 (ten years ago) link
They keep reissuing Joan Baez records...
― Evan, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 02:40 (ten years ago) link
Didn't they put out the Dazed and Confused soundtrack last year for RSD? It's like the world needs 180g dollar bins.
― boner of a lonely horse (fake penthouse letters mcgee), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 02:48 (ten years ago) link
― Evan, Monday, April 21, 2014 9:40 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
really?!
i've always said that a sign that you're in a mediocre (or worse) record store is if more than 25% of the "folk" vinyl comprises records from joan baez, judy collins, and glen yarborough. if i ran a shop I wouldn't buy or sell any baez records past the first four.
― espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 14:45 (ten years ago) link
how dare you say that about Come From The Shadows :)
― sleeve, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 14:48 (ten years ago) link
Is that the Moebius/Neumeier/Engler/Schneider TM? How is it?
The Moebius side is phenomenal: off-the-wall, bonkers music. The Schneider TM side is pretty basic ambient. Pretty pleased with it.
― afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 14:51 (ten years ago) link
Bullmoose was my local chain for a dozen years. I still order from them though I moved away a few years ago. Never had a problem.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 15:01 (ten years ago) link
I would guess that aging boomers working at labels would be responsible for reissues of Baez and Taj Mahal records for $30+ when you shouldn't be paying more than $5 for originals. Probably the same kind of people you see in documentaries or writing Rolling Stone articles pretending records/artists like those were THEE most important achievements in popular music. And the readers of such articles and watchers of such documentaries are bringing smelly crates of records into stores to sell chanting these cliche sentiments over and over and as a buyer you go "oh?" and "yeah, for sure" over and over cause you wouldn't be able to sneak a word into the one sided exchange either way so once they finally take a second to listen to your "offer" of $3-$8 for the entire crate therefore prompting them to make pained faces (exaggerated so you can tell the difference from their normal standing up and breathing pained faces) and repeating the names of the artists and the one town over where they traveled all the way from. I don't know how many times I had to explain the likely-hood that I'd be eventually throwing out the entirety of the crate once they never sell for a dollar.
― Evan, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 15:05 (ten years ago) link
Didn't buy any official RSD stuff because it's mostly expensive and a often money for old rope. I did come away with s/hand copies of Fleetwood Mac's 'Tusk' (£8 - bargain!), Joni Mitchell's Court & Spark (£5, pretty good!) and Talk Talk's 'Spirit of Eden' (incredible album, but I think I was paying £20 for the fact it was an original pressing, rather crackly and disappointing. Not interested in rare/originals so may as well have bought a new copy really).
― 1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 15:16 (ten years ago) link
The Moles album showed up on Spotify (I'm just living with that at the moment). I guess I have to get the CD when it comes out, didn't realize how different some of the songs would be from what's on the Flydaddy Untune. Surf's Up, in particular, is just huge on the new one. I need their discography sorted out for me as far as different versions go, which I hope the reissue does in the liner notes.
― dlp9001, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 15:20 (ten years ago) link
Delighted to have been able to pick up the one RSD release I was after (Built to Spill's debut) four days after the event and without the hassle of queuing and subscribing to all other bullshit that goes with the day. On the other hand I felt sick to the stomach about paying £29 for one album on vinyl. As someone who buy's new releases all year round that's way above what I'd ever reasonably be prepared to pay.
― Internet Alan, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 15:29 (ten years ago) link
The prices are WAY too high. It's not exactly encouraging people to start buying records really.
― 1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 15:30 (ten years ago) link
I guess if you know no different and only show up at a shop once a year in order to gouge on all these limited and colorful records, as it seems many who participate do, then you don't really have a realistic frame of reference. It's the people who buy stuff regularly that are most alienated by the whole event. All the folks I know who buy way too many records avoid RSD like the plague.
― Internet Alan, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 15:35 (ten years ago) link
xpost just after RSD i got emails from two different people asking me for recommendations for their first turntable purchases, so, yay?
― nerve_pylon, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 15:39 (ten years ago) link
Just out of curiosity, what did you tell them?
― Walter Galt, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 15:42 (ten years ago) link
look into Rega and Pro-Ject; Audio Technica if you need USB. and don't skimp on the cartridge/stylus.
― nerve_pylon, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 15:46 (ten years ago) link
The prices are WAY too high. It's not exactly encouraging people to start buying records really.― 1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Tuesday, April 22, 2014 10:30 AM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― 1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Tuesday, April 22, 2014 10:30 AM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This is less a RSD thing, and more an observation of a vinyl in general now, but while working on the Sleater-Kinney poll, I've been looking at the Kill Rock Stars catalogs that came with their cds. Would you believe that in 1997, you could get copies of most of KRS catalog on vinyl direct from the label for the low price of $7 apiece? By 2002, the price had risen to $9, and even now, their stuff (when in print, natch) is about $15-18, the latter price point reserved for special stuff (180 gram Elliott Smith reissues), but still not ridiculously bad.
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 16:01 (ten years ago) link
was kinda shocked to go into the new used record store in my town and not be able to find anything under $8! selection was pretty solid and it seemed like everything was in good condition, but $8 for a pretty standard used LP seems steep. maybe I'm deluded.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 16:05 (ten years ago) link
& yeah, prices are why I got into vinyl in the first place way back in the mid 90s. I could get the new matador or merge LP for $8 as opposed to $13 for the CD.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 16:06 (ten years ago) link
"All the folks I know who buy way too many records avoid RSD like the plague."
Curious- do they also avoid record fairs?
― Evan, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 16:11 (ten years ago) link
Yeah prices are getting sucky
― waterbabies (waterface), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 16:16 (ten years ago) link
I went to 1 record fair. It was small, cost 10 bucks and was an enormous waste of time. I should have used the money towards paying shipping on discogs. I'd love some tips/insights into good Record Fairs (Pacific NW) and the strategy for getting the best stuff.
― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 16:16 (ten years ago) link
we have a huge one in Eugene OR in February, but the only other NW one I went to was one of those Seattle Center ones, it was OK at best.
― sleeve, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 16:26 (ten years ago) link
I can't speak with any authority there as I'm the only one out of my record buying friends that regularly seeks out second hand stuff as well. I check out the local record fair but mostly to scavenge through the cheapo bins. I'm not into paying Record Collector listed prices for special pressings. The record fair's here (in Edinburgh) used to be unbelievable and I'd regularly come out with 15-20 LP's without having paid much over £40. The fairs really were great back then (and I'm only talking 3 or 4 years ago) when they used to attract average people flogging their collections but now it's only used dealers who travel round the country and it's become a bit of a waste of time. I remember buying some guy's pretty much complete collection of Neil Young and Tom Waits albums and paying no more than £5 per title. Without going too much off track re:RSD I do think we're living through a pretty depressing time when it comes to buying used records now with lots of shops and individuals online having serious delusions in terms of what constitutes accurate and fair pricing. Discogs has a lot to blame for this in terms of setting absurd market values. I can see a little sense using it if sellers are employ the median values on there but more often than not pricing seems to be dictated by whatever is actively on sale there at the time. I find the whole thought that I might personally hold the ability to set a market value guideline for a record on the basis of my own random guess a bit bewildering.
― Internet Alan, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 16:48 (ten years ago) link
I don't know. Discogs at least lets you see what other people have & all the different pressings.... I find the most ridiculous pricing goes on on eBay
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 17:19 (ten years ago) link
Discogs sucks becausea clueless store employee can look up that Archie Shepp record instead of throwing it in the $2 pile
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 17:20 (ten years ago) link
& yeah, prices are why I got into vinyl in the first place way back in the mid 90s. I could get the new matador or merge LP for $8 as opposed to $13 for the CD.― tylerw, Tuesday, April 22, 2014 11:06 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― tylerw, Tuesday, April 22, 2014 11:06 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah, my tastes were built in part on what was available for cheap in the 1990s. that includes not just all manner of vinyl, but lots of used classical, world, etc. CDs. but above all i started buying vinyl because you could get, i dunno, the complete albums of neil young for cheaper than buying three of his CDs new.
― espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 17:24 (ten years ago) link
Agreed but but guys this road only leads to us getting depressed that we didn't spend the 90s scooping up private press weird folk records for $1 :(
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 17:27 (ten years ago) link
some of that stuff was worth money even then, it was just harder to know about it and harder to find someone to buy it.
but yeah. :(
― espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 17:28 (ten years ago) link
yeah just think about the rare stuff i ignored while checking out the new butterglory album in 1994 :'/
― tylerw, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 17:37 (ten years ago) link
but seriously that's why it's rare and coveted now, because nobody gave a shit about it before. so if we had all bought a copy of "cowboy jim's tone poems" in 1994, it might not have ever scaled the heights of collector nerd-dom and eventually won the grand prize of being reissued by numero group with lengthy liner notes about cowboy jim's sad end in las vegas printed in 4-point type.
― espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 17:44 (ten years ago) link
RIP Jim.
― ian, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 17:46 (ten years ago) link
ramble on, you psych-country-kraut-rock pioneerhttp://www.cowboyrudy.com/Jim%20Davis.jpg
― tylerw, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 17:48 (ten years ago) link
i heard that jaki liebezeit was vacationing in oklahoma city and ended up playing drums on about half that album. you can tell, too, at least when you can hear the drum parts over the amplified melodica.
― espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 17:58 (ten years ago) link
Lmao
Man I bought this rare "loner folk" private press "classic" at a record sale... Turned out to be some sub-Dan Fogelberg sadsack covering Rainbow Connection by the Muppets
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 18:00 (ten years ago) link
All the folks I know who buy way too many records avoid RSD like the plague.― Internet Alan,
― Internet Alan,
Aye but that Breadwinner album got me. Even if it had been available in the UK RSD I wouldnt have gone anyway. Too busy for me. Luckily it wasnt one of the most sought after releases and I got the album cheap (shipping = killer though) Glad the indie shops do well n that with RSD but its not for me. I do think if the most popular items werent so limited the shops could do really well after RSD with ppl like us. Instead they get left with aerosmith reissues or whatever.
Vinyl has gotten a lot more expensive the past few years + shipping from the USA has really shot up. That wont change but I look forward to vinyl being out of fashion so I can pick up stuff cheap 2nd hand again.
― Scooby Doom (۩), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 18:06 (ten years ago) link