& yeah, prices are why I got into vinyl in the first place way back in the mid 90s. I could get the new matador or merge LP for $8 as opposed to $13 for the CD.― tylerw, Tuesday, April 22, 2014 11:06 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― tylerw, Tuesday, April 22, 2014 11:06 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah, my tastes were built in part on what was available for cheap in the 1990s. that includes not just all manner of vinyl, but lots of used classical, world, etc. CDs. but above all i started buying vinyl because you could get, i dunno, the complete albums of neil young for cheaper than buying three of his CDs new.
― espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 17:24 (ten years ago) link
Agreed but but guys this road only leads to us getting depressed that we didn't spend the 90s scooping up private press weird folk records for $1 :(
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 17:27 (ten years ago) link
some of that stuff was worth money even then, it was just harder to know about it and harder to find someone to buy it.
but yeah. :(
― espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 17:28 (ten years ago) link
yeah just think about the rare stuff i ignored while checking out the new butterglory album in 1994 :'/
― tylerw, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 17:37 (ten years ago) link
but seriously that's why it's rare and coveted now, because nobody gave a shit about it before. so if we had all bought a copy of "cowboy jim's tone poems" in 1994, it might not have ever scaled the heights of collector nerd-dom and eventually won the grand prize of being reissued by numero group with lengthy liner notes about cowboy jim's sad end in las vegas printed in 4-point type.
― espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 17:44 (ten years ago) link
RIP Jim.
― ian, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 17:46 (ten years ago) link
ramble on, you psych-country-kraut-rock pioneerhttp://www.cowboyrudy.com/Jim%20Davis.jpg
― tylerw, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 17:48 (ten years ago) link
i heard that jaki liebezeit was vacationing in oklahoma city and ended up playing drums on about half that album. you can tell, too, at least when you can hear the drum parts over the amplified melodica.
― espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 17:58 (ten years ago) link
Lmao
Man I bought this rare "loner folk" private press "classic" at a record sale... Turned out to be some sub-Dan Fogelberg sadsack covering Rainbow Connection by the Muppets
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 18:00 (ten years ago) link
All the folks I know who buy way too many records avoid RSD like the plague.― Internet Alan,
― Internet Alan,
Aye but that Breadwinner album got me. Even if it had been available in the UK RSD I wouldnt have gone anyway. Too busy for me. Luckily it wasnt one of the most sought after releases and I got the album cheap (shipping = killer though) Glad the indie shops do well n that with RSD but its not for me. I do think if the most popular items werent so limited the shops could do really well after RSD with ppl like us. Instead they get left with aerosmith reissues or whatever.
Vinyl has gotten a lot more expensive the past few years + shipping from the USA has really shot up. That wont change but I look forward to vinyl being out of fashion so I can pick up stuff cheap 2nd hand again.
― Scooby Doom (۩), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 18:06 (ten years ago) link
some sub-Dan Fogelberg sadsack covering Rainbow Connection by the Muppetsysi?
― tylerw, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 18:07 (ten years ago) link
Hahaha I'll try to find it
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 18:08 (ten years ago) link
new board description
also basically that is like 75% of private-press folk records
― espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 18:09 (ten years ago) link
i went to school with dan fogelberg's nephew. yes, you are in the (virtual) presence of royalty.
goddamn you guys actually had me googling for a Cowboy Jim Numero Group release. assholes. :)
― djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 18:14 (ten years ago) link
u just been RSD-rolled
― tylerw, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 18:17 (ten years ago) link
haha, i mean, "psych-country-kraut-rock pioneer" just sets off like a Pavlovian response in me, "MUST FIND RECORD"
― djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 18:19 (ten years ago) link
thanx for the DN tyler!
Discogs sucks because a clueless store employee can look up that Archie Shepp record instead of throwing it in the $2 pile
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown)
too true!
― RSD-rolled (sleeve), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 18:24 (ten years ago) link
Hah yeah psych country kraut sounds too good to be true.
― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 18:32 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgdJ8GRTc1Y
― ian, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 18:41 (ten years ago) link
ha well, none other than whiney says william tyler "finds common ground between the churn of contemporary country blues and the driving rhythms of krautrock."
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/pictures/10-new-artists-you-need-to-know-april-2014-20140410/william-tyler-0109280#ixzz2zdswx7wG
― tylerw, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 18:46 (ten years ago) link
i'm not sure what "contemporary country blues" means though.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 18:47 (ten years ago) link
trust me, you don't wanna know.
― ian, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 18:51 (ten years ago) link
i don't think it means what i think whiney thinks it means, in any regard.
it means keb' mo.
william tyler's music scans as super-American to me, which probably distracted me from any euro-influences.
― espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 19:11 (ten years ago) link
Glad the indie shops do well n that with RSD but its not for me. I do think if the most popular items werent so limited the shops could do really well after RSD with ppl like us.
― Scooby Doom (۩), Tuesday, April 22, 2014 11:06 AM (49 minutes ago)
living in seattle, i'd begun to avoid RSD due to the crowding, gouging, weirdly distasteful nature of the thing. but out here in the sticks (styx), there isn't much interest, so i actually had a pretty good time. got there early, only about 10 people in the store, mostly dudes my age desperately clutching pearl jam / r.e.m. boxes. had plenty of time/space to dig around.
course, i spent WAY too much money on stuff i didn't need (what i spent for that not-otherwise-unobtainable jb's reissue being a real crime), but i suppose i'd have done the same if i were buying used albums for $5.
― katsu kittens (contenderizer), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 19:13 (ten years ago) link
xp tyler covers michael rother on his new EP so that's the direct link -- his stuff is definitely very americana overall imo.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 19:15 (ten years ago) link
amazon's list of best-selling "blues" albums is... interesting
http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/music/31/ref=sr_bs_1
― espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 19:17 (ten years ago) link
ohim in no doubt if there was a record shop in my town id go down, if there was something i really wanted i may even head down an hour early but sadly its about 15+ years since we had an indie shop and not long after that our price/sanity entertainment buggered off. But im not spending a fiver on the train into glasgow to queue/squeeze into shops only to find what I want they didnt get/sold/ overpriced (£29 for the built to spill album? no thanks). I can still get that on discogs for that price but not paying it. And the thing i really wanted was £48.99. Im not spending that on 3 spacemen 3 12"s.The breadwinner lp coming from the usa with high shipping is still way cheaper than both.But hey, ppl enjoy it and shops do well, they arent gonna miss me. I just wish i could get into glasgow more often for record shopping to make up for it. I know there will never be a record shop in my town again nevermind a good one.
― Scooby Doom (۩), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 19:33 (ten years ago) link
RSD, making a difference:
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2014/04/kims_video_music_closing.php
― espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 20:26 (ten years ago) link
Eh RSD can't change the fact that there will be nothing cool or quirky in NYC left in 10 years because of rents etc
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 21:05 (ten years ago) link
Oh, Mondo Kim's? Thought that'd gone a while ago..
― Mark G, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 21:13 (ten years ago) link
mondo kim's disappeared years ago. read the article.
― espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 21:13 (ten years ago) link
Fwiw the folks I know in MPLS that work at or own places say it's the best day of business all year, and some years biggest day of business in the history of the stores
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 21:15 (ten years ago) link
Oh, if I have to..
:-)
― Mark G, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 21:16 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, that's the one I remember buying various life-changing things, the one time I was there. The Monks' CD for one..
― Mark G, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 21:19 (ten years ago) link
i'm skim skim skimming this thread and then i saw the word jaki and screeched -- is this for real or is this a joke i don't get?
― espring (amateurist), Tuesday, April 22, 2014 12:58 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark
it's ok if it's a joke i don't get, just wondering!
― Mayor Manuel (La Lechera), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 21:25 (ten years ago) link
Kim's has a pretty significant mark-up on the list price for their new stock so I'm not surprised they're not able to stay in business.
― Evan, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 21:26 (ten years ago) link
xp just a little joke about holy grail private press items. not real.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 21:27 (ten years ago) link
tyler, we are no longer blood brothers.
― espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 22:03 (ten years ago) link
― Evan, Tuesday, April 22, 2014 4:26 PM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
do they actually markup from list or just actually charge list? i've seldom known a non-super-shady business to mark up above list.
― espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 22:04 (ten years ago) link
"The Moles album showed up on Spotify (I'm just living with that at the moment). I guess I have to get the CD when it comes out, didn't realize how different some of the songs would be from what's on the Flydaddy Untune. Surf's Up, in particular, is just huge on the new one. I need their discography sorted out for me as far as different versions go, which I hope the reissue does in the liner notes."
the moles rsd thing is 2 vinyl albums and 2 CDs.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 22:43 (ten years ago) link
yeah, the two original Lps are on the two vinyl discs and the first CD, the second CD includes lots of rare stuff/singles/EPs that isn't on the vinyl. IIRC.
― espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 22:46 (ten years ago) link
kind of weird way to package it. i think the CDs will be available separately, in a non-limited manner. don't know about the vinyl. for a run that was supposed to be just 300 copies I saw an awful lot of these locally. if anyone wants one for $42 plus shipping let me know.
― espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 22:47 (ten years ago) link
i finally went record shopping in a real record store and i got the best stuff! and everything i got was cheaper than a ghostbusters picture disc:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1.0-9/10253909_10153001959692137_7431847576988946516_n.jpg
https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1.0-9/10151196_10153001959777137_7783125994182030189_n.jpg
https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1.0-9/1907302_10153001959817137_4332843591413595645_n.jpg
https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/10167932_10153001959957137_4574584218719546640_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-9/10292149_10153001961807137_7769039417623254196_n.jpg
https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1.0-9/10256910_10153001962307137_6312094334586319385_n.jpg
https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/10154981_10153001962967137_1298522873639125518_n.jpg
― scott seward, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 22:50 (ten years ago) link
(i got a ton more but i don't want to bore everyone...)
― scott seward, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 22:51 (ten years ago) link
omg those are my kinda records!
― RSD-rolled (sleeve), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 22:58 (ten years ago) link
okay just a few more...
https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1.0-9/10268632_10153001962017137_8099634643684045443_n.jpg
https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1.0-9/1926775_10153001962157137_8091893407951883731_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1.0-9/10176117_10153001962232137_4507650373560851048_n.jpg
https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1.0-9/1010197_10153001962757137_8582832403826656559_n.jpg
https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/10155175_10153001962812137_8087346007814298134_n.jpg
https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/10308167_10153001963082137_8202243608058449369_n.jpg
― scott seward, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 23:03 (ten years ago) link
lol I own 4/6 of those, go team PGR
― RSD-rolled (sleeve), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 01:39 (ten years ago) link
that pgr record is beautiful. so is the gum one in its way.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 01:45 (ten years ago) link
is that all industrial stuff?
― espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 04:07 (ten years ago) link