can someone show me a NEW shoegaze band

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Fine. I'm trying to be lazy but you insist.

cs appleby (cs appleby), Saturday, 13 December 2003 10:03 (twenty years ago) link

sigur ros!

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Saturday, 13 December 2003 10:06 (twenty years ago) link

Try epitonic for mp3s maybe. I saw them open for Firewater last week, and they struck me as rather Shoegazey. Not a Chapterhourse clone, mind you, but definitely inclined to indulge in a healthy bit of toe observation.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 13 December 2003 10:07 (twenty years ago) link

i think joy zipper are supposed to be shoegazer-y. i'm reviewing their newie this weekend but i haven't managed to listen to it yet. it's only 6 songs so i can give it several listens before writing...

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Saturday, 13 December 2003 10:10 (twenty years ago) link

Just checked out mp3's of Calla. Ehh. Thanks Alex anyhow. I'll check epitonic next.

cs appleby (cs appleby), Saturday, 13 December 2003 10:14 (twenty years ago) link

I thought they were pretty Ehh myself, but people were definetely into'em.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 13 December 2003 10:17 (twenty years ago) link

ulrich schnauss

gaz (gaz), Saturday, 13 December 2003 10:22 (twenty years ago) link

Ulrich..first search gets me to Discogs and some german site and then Warp. I'll keep on it.

cs appleby (cs appleby), Saturday, 13 December 2003 10:29 (twenty years ago) link

this thread sucks

Malory! Isobella! Paik! Pacific UV!

fucking Clairecords people!!!!

sort yourselves out

the surface noise (electricsound), Saturday, 13 December 2003 11:08 (twenty years ago) link

the Workhouse

Schwingung (Damian), Saturday, 13 December 2003 11:28 (twenty years ago) link

yeah!!!

the surface noise (electricsound), Saturday, 13 December 2003 11:46 (twenty years ago) link

Guitar and Pluramon.

JoB (JoB), Saturday, 13 December 2003 12:24 (twenty years ago) link

Kinski have a fair bit of the 'gaze as well, as do Bardo Pond, but both have a lot of other fish to fry in general.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 13 December 2003 16:27 (twenty years ago) link

Pacific UV is like a poorman's Spiritualized, but still not bad.
Is Malory still around? Thy're good.

A Nairn (moretap), Saturday, 13 December 2003 17:58 (twenty years ago) link

The Peter Parkers, Mean Red Spiders and you'd probably like Readymade too.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Saturday, 13 December 2003 18:03 (twenty years ago) link

Some people really liked that Manitoba record

Sonny A. (Keiko), Saturday, 13 December 2003 18:16 (twenty years ago) link

my usual Marine Time Keepers mention, probably the prettiest, musically speaking, shoegazing band around today. radio dept is like a shoegazing band that writes pop songs and their new ep is wonderful.

keith m (keithmcl), Saturday, 13 December 2003 18:36 (twenty years ago) link

Guitar (that's the name of the band) has an album called "Sunkissed" that's probably up your alley.

Nom De Plume (Nom De Plume), Saturday, 13 December 2003 19:12 (twenty years ago) link

Timonium do a kinda shoegazey/slowcore thing. "Self Evidence" is a really pretty song.

Ian Johnson (orion), Saturday, 13 December 2003 19:22 (twenty years ago) link

Trouble with "shoegazer" is that it was so of-it's-time that anyone trying to re-create it - modern spin or not - end up being a complete revivalist band.

I think most bands these days that are labelled "shoegazer" would be better suited to "slowcore" or "dream-pop" labels.

Labelling is wrong.

Stupid (Stupid), Saturday, 13 December 2003 20:24 (twenty years ago) link

Maybe labeling is wrong. My personal view is to call Coldplay a shoegaze act. How the fuck is calling something slow core or dream-pop going to change a thing. This is an atmospheric aesthetic. Call it whatever you want. You know when you are there.

cs appleby (cs appleby), Saturday, 13 December 2003 20:45 (twenty years ago) link

You just said the C word.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Saturday, 13 December 2003 20:54 (twenty years ago) link

ooop..I wasn't supposed to cuss.

cs appleby (cs appleby), Saturday, 13 December 2003 22:13 (twenty years ago) link

"Maybe labeling is wrong. My personal view is to call Coldplay a shoegaze act. How the fuck is calling something slow core or dream-pop going to change a thing. This is an atmospheric aesthetic. Call it whatever you want. You know when you are there."

Coldplay have certainly been influenced by Catherine Wheel, My Bloody Valentine and other bands like that, but that's not to say they're a shoegazer band.

I guess this is a semantical debate. Shoegazer, to me, isn't about an "atmospheric aesthetic", it's much more specific than that.

Stupid (Stupid), Saturday, 13 December 2003 22:29 (twenty years ago) link

Thanks to the guy who called this a stupid thread for pointing me to Clairecords and for the shoegazer web ring.

I declare 2004 the year of the Shoegaze. I'm chinese for sake of argument. With all the discussion around here about it in the last month or so I feel Congress will agree.

A firecracker parade will follow.

cs appleby (cs appleby), Saturday, 13 December 2003 22:44 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.masstransfer.net

Nihilist Pop Star (mjt), Saturday, 13 December 2003 22:47 (twenty years ago) link

MT..what should I be looking at masstransfer?

cs appleby (cs appleby), Saturday, 13 December 2003 22:56 (twenty years ago) link

man i was drunk last night so don't take the stupid stuff personally

this thread is good now

the surface noise (electricsound), Saturday, 13 December 2003 22:57 (twenty years ago) link

And what is the dream-pop schtick? Kylie Minogue? Current 93 doing CrowleyMass? Coil doing Tainted Love in a less cabaret-type style?

cs appleby (cs appleby), Saturday, 13 December 2003 23:09 (twenty years ago) link

Some of Joy Zipper's stuff is shoe-gazery and some isn't. Conveniently, I have the most MBV sounding track up on my blog right now. The song is Baby You Should Know (go to the Friday 12/5 entry) and I like it a lot. Blog is www.mysticalbeast.blogspot.com and soon I'll teach myself how to post links.

dlp9001, Saturday, 13 December 2003 23:13 (twenty years ago) link

you'll thank me:

www.theearlies.com

the priest, Saturday, 13 December 2003 23:14 (twenty years ago) link

Also www.melodic.com - the new compilation of 'tracks for horses' includes some mighty fine orchestrated dream pop. worth checking out.

the priest, Saturday, 13 December 2003 23:18 (twenty years ago) link

Thanks Priest, but if you know these guys tell em' to lengthen their clips. If you can't hear a chorus on a clip then...

I will now check out melodic.com

cs appleby (cs appleby), Saturday, 13 December 2003 23:26 (twenty years ago) link

i think this thread shoudl be about wombedelia, not shoegazing. shoegazing just means lots of effects pedals and vague lyricism right? there is bound to be overlap into several other "genres".

keith m (keithmcl), Saturday, 13 December 2003 23:58 (twenty years ago) link

MT..what should I be looking at masstransfer?

I would click the "Free Sample Issue" button on the side and see what happens.

This zine is run by Ryan Anderson who used to play with Fuxa back in the old Michigan space rock days. Each issue comes with a free cd comp that is mostly showgaze and space rock. If you are interested in that sound they are very worth picking up. Ryan keeps the prices dirt cheap, they cost $7.20 a piece and that covers the shipping.

If you do decide to pick up back issues I would recommend that you start with issue three and work your way forward. The first couple issues were a bit patchy but they got better with every following issue.

As far as bands go, I would recommend looking into Tristeza/The Album Leaf, Cerberus Shoal, Landing, Hinterland, and Tex La Homa. ESOJ's(the surface noise) and Ned's picks are both completely otm and I would have recommended them myself if they had not beaten me to the punch.

Nihilist Pop Star (mjt), Sunday, 14 December 2003 00:09 (twenty years ago) link

Shoegazer Revival - S/D

Nick Mirov (nick), Sunday, 14 December 2003 02:36 (twenty years ago) link

You might like to check out some of the cassette-only releases on the Best Kept Secret label. http://www.indiepages.com/bestkeptsecret/.

Kent Burt (lingereffect), Sunday, 14 December 2003 04:40 (twenty years ago) link

you'd probably like Readymade too.

Readymade isn't exactly new. They were sending out annoying promo stuff 6/7 years ago.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Sunday, 14 December 2003 05:46 (twenty years ago) link

give me some days to digest this lot y'all.

cs appleby (cs appleby), Sunday, 14 December 2003 07:56 (twenty years ago) link

yellow6

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Sunday, 14 December 2003 08:13 (twenty years ago) link

Readymade's latest album, 'On Point and Red', is wonderful for this. Also, a Seattle band called The Melody Unit, who definitely take the dream-pop side, but are wonderful. Look into their 7-minute songs, 'April New Year' and 'Suite for Caesar', but really, their entire 'Choose Your Own Adventure' album.

derrick (derrick), Sunday, 14 December 2003 08:49 (twenty years ago) link

didnt like Yellow6 at all.

cs appleby (cs appleby), Sunday, 14 December 2003 22:57 (twenty years ago) link

neither do i to be honest, although a couple of their early singles are quite nice

the surface noise (electricsound), Sunday, 14 December 2003 22:58 (twenty years ago) link

the Words On Music label is leaning towards the shoegaze/dreampop thing as well. they released the excellent Fiel Garvie album

the surface noise (electricsound), Sunday, 14 December 2003 22:59 (twenty years ago) link

M83 is like Air in a shoegazer poncho. Even if their site keeps crashing (it has a buggy fake DOS interface) -- c'mon, you owe it to the hypnotic nerve centers to figure something out. Their Dead Cities, Red Seas, and Lost Ghosts has hit this encroaching winter for me on all levels.

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Sunday, 14 December 2003 23:37 (twenty years ago) link

the Words On Music label is leaning towards the shoegaze/dreampop thing as well. they released the excellent Fiel Garvie album

The Meeting Places as well...reasonable enough rotegaze.

M83, now lemme tell ya, I guess I enjoyed the album the one time I heard it, but that was six months ago and I haven't felt any need to listen again.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 14 December 2003 23:53 (twenty years ago) link

words on music is supposed to release that comp with a bunch of bands all covering 'outdoor miner'. i wonder when that will see the light of day. Motion Picture is pretty dull, I haven't heard anything else on the label. oh wait, i've heard Coastal and they were dreary and uninspiring.

keith m (keithmcl), Monday, 15 December 2003 00:08 (twenty years ago) link

i like Coastal and i looove Should. i'm quite keen to hear the new For Against too. quite a few of the albums on WoM are on eBay for $8 apiece brand new (it's the label owner selling them)

the surface noise (electricsound), Monday, 15 December 2003 00:09 (twenty years ago) link

The Ides of Space, I guess.

Everyone should hear the new For Against.

JC (JC A.), Monday, 15 December 2003 00:24 (twenty years ago) link

sydney band Tides are quite gazey, and their demo EP promises very much.

the surface noise (electricsound), Monday, 15 December 2003 00:29 (twenty years ago) link

imago, you listen to Beyond Dawn? such a weird discography. i figured if anyone did here it would be you. cuz you weirdo. i've been listening to the last album on vinyl. they started out as 90s norwegian metal and then ended up being...whatever it is they ended up being.

this is from the last album. which is why i thought of you. hahaha!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQnu8KW1MVk

scott seward, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 17:56 (ten months ago) link

even in the mid-90s they were already weird:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c4UceAHwqo

scott seward, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 17:56 (ten months ago) link

their first tape was this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvPXREnG7dY

scott seward, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 17:57 (ten months ago) link

anyhoo, carry on shoegazing shoegeezers!

scott seward, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 17:58 (ten months ago) link

Ooh ty will give that a whirl!

All Natural Lemon & Lime Flavours are the great underrated 90s shoegaze band and Kairon; IRSE the great underrated one now, among others ofc

Cigarettes After Sex are the single worst band in the world. I hate them with a passion you can only guess at

imago, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 18:00 (ten months ago) link

(and if you want something in between those eras, Coaltar Of The Deepers should be much, much bigger with The Kids than they are imo!)

imago, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 18:01 (ten months ago) link

kairon; irse is proggier/psychier than any of the original blend shoegaze bands imo. good stuff tho

kissinger on my list (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 18:04 (ten months ago) link

speaking of 'we have [x] at home', this Bloody Comeback song is Ulver at home lol (I am enjoying it)

imago, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 18:06 (ten months ago) link

but yeah where are the kids trying to sound like this ;_;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlJwXe4dmSc

imago, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 18:23 (ten months ago) link

i still have my copy of turning into small. such a great mesh of my stereolab valentine. thy did it best in the states.

scott seward, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 18:32 (ten months ago) link

have put Frysh on, it's sounding quite interesting, excellent Y2Kwave (see also that one Fireside album)

imago, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 18:36 (ten months ago) link

we are however massively off-topic lol

imago, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 18:36 (ten months ago) link

Pitchfork w/their 2023 shoegaze revival article
https://pitchfork.com/features/article/the-shoegaze-revival-hit-its-stride-in-2023/

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 28 December 2023 03:04 (ten months ago) link

It has long seemed to me like the shoegaze approach to rock that has never dated or gone on a downswing, unlike the genres that it rose from -- goth, jangle, NYC noise, post-hardcore. Maybe because it has always sat in a sweet spot just below mainstream, accumulating interest as listeners age into it, hooks always buried enough you have to search for them. I don't really associate it with a generation or a wave. Like, when the UK music press tossed it aside, it was just getting going in the US.

bendy, Thursday, 28 December 2023 16:23 (ten months ago) link

I remember feeling a bit superior about that at the time, the landmark MBV/Ride/Slowdive albums had been and gone - with just the occasional mention of the term as an arch callback to its original put-down usage - and then the US was all “hay guys I looooove shoegaze” and lots of not-really-relevant or second-rate bands being picked up seemingly at random.

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 28 December 2023 16:58 (ten months ago) link

i was way into it and it woulda happened if it wasn’t for that meddling grunge. but all grunge did was push shoegaze just under the surface where it’s festered and now it is a wonderful ubiquitous toxic algae bloom.

digital chirping and whirring (Hunt3r), Thursday, 28 December 2023 22:05 (ten months ago) link

one month passes...

Concrete Avalanche posts a pretty good intro guide to Chinese shoegaze https://jakenewby.substack.com/p/a-beginners-guide-to-chinese-shoegaze

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 22 February 2024 03:14 (eight months ago) link

two months pass...

Really into the new somesurprises record, they’re touring the east coast in a couple weeks https://somesurprises.bandcamp.com/album/perseids

JoeStork, Monday, 29 April 2024 15:24 (six months ago) link

Yeah I need to get around to listening to that -- Catbus, a Bluesky account I've been following for a while for the good new shoegaze recs, has talked this up and I know I have it around here somewhere!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 29 April 2024 15:27 (six months ago) link

two weeks pass...

there’s a new Belong album coming out . the sample tracks seem a little odd but gotta say, not on my bingo card for the year

https://belong.bandcamp.com/album/realistic-ix

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 16 May 2024 02:09 (six months ago) link

also admit that their second album continues to get regular plays 13 years later

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 16 May 2024 02:09 (six months ago) link

1) always amazes when i see release dates like 3 mos away, and while it makes sense to me roughly understanding what is supposed to happen, it still seems soooo far away, it would stress the hell out of me if i were an artist.
2) recommendation of stuff unknown to me from trusted source— another good day

well below the otm mendoza line (Hunt3r), Thursday, 16 May 2024 02:21 (six months ago) link

my kid is way into all of this now. I think i said elsewhere that duster played one of the worst sets I've ever seen a band play probably 20 years ago. It's cool they have this revival; they're headlining the Warfield in SF! that's so weird. obviously I like all of these bands and even like some of the new ones. We saw Soft Blue Shimmer at a bar in SF last week and they were really good.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 16 May 2024 03:56 (six months ago) link

one month passes...

They Are Gutting a Body of Water put out a collection of previously unreleased tracks earlier this week and they've been kicking my ass. For my money they're the most interesting band making shoegaze/adjacent music right now--doing a whole lot more than just rehashing old sounds. They incorporate electronic music in really cool and sometimes subtle ways, have a bit of a glitch thing going, and work in some breakbeats here and there. Got to see them play in NYC back in March and though it was a very short set, it was most excellent. Had almost DnB-like tracks playing through a sequencer or something in between songs played by the band.

And what's the deal with Philly? Seems to be a pretty clear thruline from Alex G-->Blue Smiley-->TAGABOW. Don't know that I'll be able to find the interviews but I seem to remember the guy from Blue Smiley calling themselves an Alex G tribute band and then another interview with the guy from TAGABOW calling themselves a Blue Smiley tribute band. But each is much more than their influences.

So, anybody else keen on these guys?

Ubiquitor, Friday, 21 June 2024 18:02 (four months ago) link

What’s the album? Doesn’t seem to ge on their bandcamp page.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Saturday, 22 June 2024 00:12 (four months ago) link

swanlike (loosies 2020-2023)

It's up on spotify and youtube

Ubiquitor, Saturday, 22 June 2024 00:33 (four months ago) link

I love TAGABOW. I didn't get into "s" quite as much as Dextiny XL, but I agree completely that they're doing more interesting stuff w/ shoegaze than most.

I am a major sucker for heavy distortion, warped sounds and tons o' fuzz.

You know Blue Smiley's main songwriter passed away several years ago now, yeah?

alpine static, Saturday, 22 June 2024 07:48 (four months ago) link

"what's the deal with Philly?"

best indie rock scene in America for a decade now, probably? i assume it's because everywhere nearby got too expensive and artists ended up there. (idk, i live 3,000 miles away.)

alpine static, Saturday, 22 June 2024 07:49 (four months ago) link

Mad not to make the album buyable.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Saturday, 22 June 2024 11:51 (four months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Philly is pretty good for independent music and always has been, ime as someone both from here and as someone who left for 15 years only to return. The punk/hc and indie-rock scene of the mid to late 90s was incredible, and it's kept up since then tbh.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 19 July 2024 16:41 (three months ago) link

xpost alpine static, yeah it's a damn shame. Spotify algorithm fired Blue Smiley across my bow a few months before the remaining members put out their previously unreleased material in the fall of '23 and I was utterly crestfallen to hear that the brains behind the operation had passed away. Their music sounds like it comes from a damaged soul, but it has a particularly uplifting quality that I feel can only come from such a source.

Ubiquitor, Saturday, 20 July 2024 00:24 (three months ago) link

The new album by Orcas (Rafael Anton Irisarri + Benoît Pioulard) came out this week and will make your ears bleed technicolor

https://orcasmorr.bandcamp.com/album/how-to-color-a-thousand-mistakes

Xgau Murder Spa (nikola), Saturday, 20 July 2024 16:53 (three months ago) link

Lorelle Meets The Obsolete in Tijuana last night. (my short review: fuck yeah!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_CgDxFZlJI

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 28 July 2024 01:40 (three months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq5C6g9L2-c

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 28 July 2024 01:40 (three months ago) link

awesome

mookieproof, Sunday, 28 July 2024 01:53 (three months ago) link

Think I talked about Pink Breath of Heaven earlier in the thread — easily my new favorite SF band and I would have seen them last night again if it wasn’t for finally getting a chance to see Cold Gawd at last. Anyway: new Pink Breath single is out:

https://pinkbreathofheaven.bandcamp.com/track/the-wind-is-calling

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 4 August 2024 00:14 (three months ago) link

this popped up on boomkat email this week, probably fits here musically but someone will know more about them than i do

Belong:
https://boomkat.com/products/realistic-ix

koogs, Saturday, 10 August 2024 10:24 (three months ago) link

(i only clicked through because i liked the cover)

koogs, Saturday, 10 August 2024 10:24 (three months ago) link

alternatively i could scroll back like a page...

koogs, Saturday, 10 August 2024 10:25 (three months ago) link

The Belong album is so MBV drenched, it’s crazy.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Saturday, 10 August 2024 13:08 (three months ago) link

https://www.stereogum.com/2245469/tiktok-has-made-shoegaze-bigger-than-ever/columns/sounding-board/

are we talking about this anywhere else?

― 龜, wednesday 20 december 2023 10:38 (seven months ago)

Wisp (still only 19 years old) played at the Pukkelpop festival in Belgium yesterday and reviews are very positive.

In case you didn't click that, here's a video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foTFjWd21e0

StanM, Sunday, 18 August 2024 07:06 (three months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Full Cold Gawd set from July

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTu5UTnBYZk

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 6 September 2024 21:05 (two months ago) link

Yup, they're something live, caught them a month back here doing an opening set as mentioned upthread a bit and it killed.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 September 2024 21:59 (two months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Is there a good Shoegaze thread?

Joe Dilworth (amazing drummer and photographer*) is releasing a book of his photographs from 1987-1994 from London including many, many acts that were performing in the scene before shoegaze and shoegaze-adjacent was retroactively applied to it. Many appeared in Melody Maker.

*Joe was the original drummer of Stereolab, Cavern Of Anti-Matter, Th' Faith Healers & Add N to (X). His photographs appeared on hundreds of albums, most notably for this thread: the Isn't Anything front and back covers.

https://bildbandberlin.com/collections/all-books/products/joe-dilworth-everything-all-at-once-forever
hardback, limited to 600

Mrs. Ippei (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 28 September 2024 02:49 (one month ago) link

Hmm! Very tempted.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 28 September 2024 02:50 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

Tanukichan latest - Circles is ok shoegaze but doesn’t wow me

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 29 October 2024 23:22 (two weeks ago) link


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