― the pinefox, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― youn, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Dave225, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Kristopher John, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― powertonevolume, Saturday, 23 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
**The Negatives -- C- (too much studio polish)** **Etc. -- A (excellent... back to folk roots)** **Loaded -- F+ (horrible recording quality and lackluster performances)** **Plastic Wood -- B (ambient electronics; he's no Eno, but it's rather pleasant)**
― Tim DiGravina, Saturday, 23 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Polaroid, Wednesday, 27 November 2002 00:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 00:40 (twenty-one years ago) link
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 27 November 2002 21:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
― polaroid, Monday, 24 March 2003 00:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Gatinha (rwillmsen), Monday, 24 March 2003 01:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
THAT WAS NEVER ON THAT ALBUM ARGH! FIERCE PANCAKE IS BRILLIANT ALBUM ARGH! HOW MUCH IS THE FISH ETC WAS erm a single way before that etc etc and annoying because defining band for hewry masses ect blather.
Ex Palais Schaumburg bloke produce. Future musical saw man on bass. Beautiful record it is. Buy Fierce Pancake now everybody. Flann O', es. This is a DP
― OleM (OleM), Monday, 12 May 2003 19:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
― the pinefox, Friday, 20 June 2003 15:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
"I have news, for a change.
I can now announce (sorry to be so hush hush before) that in October this year Lloyd Cole and the Commotions will be briefly reforming to celebrate the 20th anniversary of our debut album 'rattlesnakes'.
So far we have booked Oct 12th - Glasgow Barrowlands (Ticketweb)AndOct 15th - London Hammersmith Apollo (Ticketmaster)
We will quite possibly (and hopefully) be adding a few more shows in other major cities, but I cannot guarantee this.
We will be the original line up playing only songs from our 3 albums,b-sides and maybe some of the cover versions we used to play. No LC solo material.
Hope some of you can make it, it should be fun.
Universal will be releasing a 'deluxe edition' of the album and we arecurrently at work selecting tracks for the bonus CD, these will include:Beautiful City (the only track from the rattlesnakes session not to beincluded on the disc - I'm sure you will agree with the decision if and when you hear it)Are you ready to be heartbroken? (original unreleased indi single b-side)Jesus Said (from P Hardiman produced session post rattlesnakes, pre Easy Pieces)All original b-sides, including Glory (Television song)Selected BBC session recordingsLive tracks from the period (each Commotion will choose a favourite song)Demos for P Skin and F Fire
Hopefully it will be something worth having, the CD will be properlyremastered and there will be no surround sound crap.
Finally, thanks to all those who came to the January/February shows.
Yours
LC
― dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 12:58 (twenty years ago) link
surely not!personally, the first song i heard was 'brand new friend', and then 'lost weekend'. i was young, and foolish and discovered him via top of the pops. hell, there are worse ways to find someone.
i'd be interested to hear WHY you think it is his worst album. it tails off towards the end rather, but i never found his albums completely consistent. and, comparatively, its free of the 'look at the size of my intellect' literary references which, while amusing in isolation, do tend to get a little wearing after a while.
also, its the album where he had a bit of fun, allowed himself to flirt wholeheartedly with pop, stopped trying to be so clever for a few minutes and just projected his feelings without too many twists and tics and knowing smiles. and i think that's why its the only one of his albums that i love, rather than merely admire.
as for the rest of this thread...so, some lloyd cole sounds a little of its time, shall we say.. but thank god it was there at its time. the opening chords of 'brand new friend' still make my heart jump a little, and, if lloyd postured a little in the 80s, he wasn't exactly on his own, was he? 'i love country music', my favourite, paints the opposite picture - completely honest: bedsitter sordidness, television and cheap spanish wine - as effective in its own way as 'gene' by the smiths or 'bedsitter' by soft cell. perhaps more effective for me, now, because it does so without being needlessly maudlin. 'gene' is a great song, but it depresses the fuck out of me. (i know lots of you are going to disagree) '...country music' still makes me smile.
so, then... C-L-A-S-S-I-C..... for easy pieces, rattlesnakes and admitting he'll never match leonard cohen (can anyone?) but that's just my opinion. its no more, or less, valid than yours..
and a lot of the later 90s stuff is really quite good. more reflective, more considered, far less postured - for the most part. 'bad vibes' and 'don't get weird on me' are the case against.
travis? who are they?
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 13:30 (twenty years ago) link
― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 13:34 (twenty years ago) link
And "Bad Vibes" is a great record... Someday you will all see...
― dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 13:40 (twenty years ago) link
― the blissfox, Tuesday, 10 February 2004 13:45 (twenty years ago) link
― dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 13:47 (twenty years ago) link
― grapeshine (grapeshine), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 14:14 (twenty years ago) link
Lloyd Cole (X)
Rattlesnakes
Etc
The Negatives
Mainstream
Don't Get Weird On Me, Babe
Easy Pieces
Love Story
Music In A Foreign Language
Bad Vibes
with Plastic Wood existing in a list of its own.
I am opposed to mere lists, and should know better than to make and send this one. But -.
― the ninefox, Tuesday, 10 February 2004 14:19 (twenty years ago) link
And Music in a Foreign Language may rate higher after more listenings..
― dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 14:23 (twenty years ago) link
i haven't heard bad vibes or music in a foreign language.
― youn, Tuesday, 10 February 2004 15:02 (twenty years ago) link
Of course even they are better than almost anyone else's records.
225: how many listens does MFL take? What do you think is good about it?
It does have good points - even 'Shelf Life', for instance, does something for me.
― the blissfox, Tuesday, 10 February 2004 15:12 (twenty years ago) link
― dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 15:25 (twenty years ago) link
― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 05:21 (twenty years ago) link
I must agree! But he chimed in quickly!
Donna, no Citroen? Clearly your parents treated you poorly and you must lash out against an uncaring society and form a nu-metal band. Oh wait.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 05:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 05:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 05:44 (twenty years ago) link
― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 06:07 (twenty years ago) link
Yet, all Reynolds seemed able to do was say that he'd once liked Rattlesnakes. I think it would be good if he took a broader view - and revisited his own interview with Lloyd, from MM in c. Jan / Feb 1990, at the time of the X LP. This was no mere interview: it contained good writing and real insight, more than I've often seen from Reynolds since. It was definitely one of the three best things ever written about Lloyd Cole.
I wonder has he merely forgotten the piece, since, or is he ashamed of its thoughtful interest in later Lloyd, whose work he now thinks mainly matter for mockery?
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 10 August 2004 16:03 (twenty years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 16:05 (twenty years ago) link
― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 18:12 (twenty years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 18:19 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris Hill (Chris Hill), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 19:12 (twenty years ago) link
― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 00:01 (twenty years ago) link
RattlesnakesDon't Get WeirdMainstream (just for Hey Rusty and Sean Penn Blues)Lloyd ColeEasy Pieces
Although leaving the title song off Don't Get Weird was a shideous mistake.
― Jim E-T, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 08:27 (twenty years ago) link
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 08:52 (twenty years ago) link
― svend (svend), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 11:18 (twenty years ago) link
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 11:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Palomino (Palomino), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 11:44 (twenty years ago) link
― dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 11:48 (twenty years ago) link
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 11:54 (twenty years ago) link
Sometimes I worry that Alba does not identify herself, enough.
― the bellefox, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 12:17 (twenty years ago) link
― the bellefox, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 12:52 (twenty years ago) link
(x-post)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 12:53 (twenty years ago) link
Errr....yes it was. And I can say that with all certainty as A Fierce Pancake is the ONLY bit of Stump's catalog I've ever been able to find (and if's the only think I know, how would I know "Buffalo" if it weren't on it?) I have it on much-covetted compact disc too, so nyah!
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 12:59 (twenty years ago) link
Disc 1 will be the original 10 songs
All to be confirmed but this is disc 2 if all the tracks can be found -Original (never released) single version of Are You Ready To Be Heartbroken?Perfect Skin - Demo The Sea and The Sand You will Never be no Good Andy's babies Glory Sweetness Jesus Said Beautiful City (rattlesnakes recording)
Live recordings / BBC Sessions - Beautiful City - Marquee 5/11/84. Charlotte Street - Marquee 5/11/84 Four Flights Up - Barrowlands Forest Fire - Richard Skinner Show. Glory - Night Moves 15/6/84 Patience - Saturday Live Rattlesnakes with the strings - Richard Skinner Sweetness - Barrowlands 2CV - Barrowlands Speedboat - Richard Skinner
― Chris Hill (Chris Hill), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 16:15 (twenty years ago) link
― the bellefox, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 16:19 (twenty years ago) link
Love this tune
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPCneZ7AwdQ
― Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Friday, 14 June 2024 21:53 (three months ago) link