When did MTV become shit?

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(sorry about the prior error in tag...i was mesmerized by Adam's cumulus locks...a tonsorian wet-dream...)

J. Grizzle (trainsmoke), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:11 (seventeen years ago) link

does sky still broadcast the Box? I remember a girl from Virginia being all gushy about it because they had in Maryland but not across in Virgina and I was soooooo lucky to have it... MTV2 europe does a version of 120 Minutes now , it's all part of the NME axis of evil though.

I remember when MTV2 europe started, that was actually pretty great. You could access the website and see a full database of all their videos and put together your own playlist of 13 songs (I think it was 13). They'd choose ones and play them. Saw some random old alternative videos on that. MTV people were on CNN today talking about this new thing they have that's meant to challenge MySpace/Youtube. I'm ignorant of this thing.

xpost UGH... but someone needs to do more photoshopping of mullets on to people....

Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I think it was that period of about two years when almost all of their programming was retrospectives.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah its called Mtv flux if I remember correctly. Crap name for starters.

from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link

ooh.... MTV Flux is a whole channel that's launching next year and is doing exactly what MTV2 used to do with the playlists? Except with community users and youtube-like user generated videos...
Does this warrant a new thread seeing as this is a bitching thread?

The best way to get your content on the telly is to promote it as much as possible on the site. However, first you must make something that is a little bit cool (no nudity though, this is a family show). Once our video upload tool is available you’ll be able to stick it on your page and share it around with all your friends. The more views you get the more chance you have of getting on the big screen.

This sounds horrible, forget it, I'm not touching this thing. I find those video blogs where 15 year olds bitch about things on youtube totally weird and a little scary. Gimme VJs anyday.

in fact I sort of miss the hot MTV Europe VJs.


I used to be one of "the kids"..

Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I used to think they were all American and wondered why they were on Mtv Europe. I didn't realise that they were all German and Portugese with American accents.

from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah! The accents were totally weird. I love when Germans talk with american english accents. Deutsche Welt tv which we have has english language German news broadcasts and it's the same accents. There were always a few Englanders like Ray Cokes on Most Wanted. My sister was in love with Toby Amies.

Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link

My greatest thrill was when someone crossed over from TCC (where'd that go?)

from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:47 (seventeen years ago) link

How is this even still a question? I'm young but I don't ever remember MTV being cool.

The REAL question is, when did VH1 turn to shit? I remember the days when they had this uber-clever commercial that had kitchen-themed visual representations of all the music they refused to play ("No heavy metal!", cue pots & pans & whatnot; "No rap!", cue Saran-wrap; "No grunge!", cue dishes covered in grime). Then I remember when they played a Puff Daddy video or something and I was like "Aw shit, VH1, you mothafuckas SOLD OUT!"

Adam J. (In Place of Something Clever), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 02:13 (seventeen years ago) link

MTV became shit when they cancelled Undressed.

For about a year, I'd come home at 2 or 3 in the morning, and watch an episode or two of Undressed and Dido's "Thank You" would be on VH1 at least twice an hour.

milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 02:20 (seventeen years ago) link

did mtv ever go off the air for the night? or have they always been 24/7?

kephm (kephm), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 02:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I agree with the small town makes for happier MTV viewing argument. It shaped a lot of my early music interests (for the good or bad).

Good memories: The State, Liquid Television, 120 Minutes, 10 to the hour every hour, Head Banger's Ball, The first couple Real World seasons, Christina Ricci on the Jon Stewart Show

Bad memories: Singled Out, The Blame Game, Buzz Clips, The State getting canned

Todd Kuethe (ToddK), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link

milo is on a roll lately! I was talking with a group of friends a few weeks back after seeing the Superman movie and we figured out that apparently the actor was in Undressed at some point, which led to us all revealing that we'd watched the show. Partially because MTV kept playing it instead of Amp, which was slowly dying before going to MTV2 where I assume it got buried. That show was so awesome and horrible.

mike h. (mike h.), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

MTV became shit when they cancelled Undressed.

I very nearly posted this.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Kurt Loder in 1991-1992 was a man on fire.

Alicia Titsovich (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 15:54 (seventeen years ago) link

ah yes...The State was incredibly good. Tacos in the mailbox good...Undressed as well...

J. Grizzle--Here Comes Treble (trainsmoke), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Undressed was so shit. NOBODY ACTUALLY GOT UNDRESSED.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Last night on MTV in the UK, the full first hour of MTV programming was shown. It was overly heavy on the male-white-rock, but quite compelling in a way - there videos by Rod Stewart, Cliff Richard, The Pretenders, Styx, REO Speedwagon (which made me recall the Alan Partridge moment). It also introduced all the VJs as well. It all looks so dated now, and the promos were hilarious.

Andie B (andie b), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 16:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Undressed was so shit. NOBODY ACTUALLY GOT UNDRESSED.

that was the purpose of MTV's 'Sex in the 90's'

J. Grizzle--Here Comes Treble (trainsmoke), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 16:51 (seventeen years ago) link

aw man undressed ruled

got so much $ can't spend it so fast (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Spring '98 - TRL premieres. The rest is history.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link

"Under the Bridge" seems as good a moment as any. Those slow-mo Keidis love-handles.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 17:15 (seventeen years ago) link

When they started inserting scripted lines into shows like "Next" and "Room Raiders." I wish they would just act natruley!

less-than three's Christiane F. (drowned in milk), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 17:28 (seventeen years ago) link

four words: "My Super Sweet Sixteen"
if it wasn't shit until then, it was most definitely shit after.

something less threatening (heywood), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Have you seen kids that age act "naturally" in front of a camera?

And that's what's coming by the way with MTV Flux thing, those kids are going to produce their own content and it'll get on based on popularity.

I won't be watching.

xpost

Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

that was the purpose of MTV's 'Sex in the 90's'
I loved the Guido on that who sprayed cologne on his COCK. For some reason it seems like that would burn.

milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 18:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I loved the Guido on that who sprayed cologne on his COCK. For some reason it seems like that would burn.

i promise i wouldn't know...

As for the MTV Flux ideer...i mean c'mon haters: How else are you going to keep up on who is in the lead for sending a Coke Rocket the highest? people just don't care about the issues anymore mang.

J. Grizzle--Here Comes Treble (trainsmoke), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 19:06 (seventeen years ago) link

MTV was in trouble the minute they took Golden Earring's Twilight Zone video out of heavy rotation.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 20:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I was kidding about that, the whole "naturally" thing. It truly actually frightens me, how Viacom is parading around the most utterly shallow, narcissistic fucktards they can possibly find, waxing every part of their body, and then putting them in front of the camera to spew out the most superficial things their penises can think of. And then all the 14 year olds watch it and what they get from it is "this is how it's cool to act". I mean, has anyone here actually watched an episode of "Next" or "Room Raiders"?

"Ugh, a Burger King application? I don't want to spend my time with someone who flips burgers for a living..."

less-than three's Christiane F. (drowned in milk), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link

MTV started sucking the day Matchbox 20 and their contemporaries began clogging the radio airwaves with their dreary AOR. Its quality plummeted several thousand miles underground once the teenypopper assembly line crapola began its sickening rise in popularity, but its brand quality had already suffered huge hits before that dreadful year of 1999. It was, coincidentally, at that same time that "The Real World" became less about being "real" and more about stupid contrivances. Now there's no way MTV can recover. They might as well cut that whole channel out from the cable/satellite lineup, because an infection that's been going on that long has to have necrotized that whole limb. VH1 is almost at about that stage, too, which is even sadder since VH1 had a much smaller window of time when it was equally as awesome as MTV was during the latter's heyday.

Phoenix Dancing (krushsister), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 23:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I kinda didn't mind the manipulations in the first couple of seasons of TRW (OK, that's a lie, I was outraged reading in Spin that 1st-season cast members were told they couldn't go to the Guggenheim because "real people don't do that.") because they weren't as obvious, and they were in a better class of manipulation, too -- more sociopolitical "relevance" than sex sex sex.

They eventually bled all possibility for boredom from the show by casting fuck-ups and sociopaths and bimbos and himbos, and gave them lots of shit to do like starting businesses and what not, and as a consequence, the show became extremely boring.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 23:50 (seventeen years ago) link

That's exactly what I meant, Michael. Thank you for phrasing it in a much better way. Though -- did they really say that re: Orig. NYC's not visiting the Guggenheim? Wow, that's pretty sad.

Phoenix Dancing (krushsister), Thursday, 3 August 2006 00:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, far as I remember. It was in a Spin "expose" that ran after the first season ended, nearly (OMG) fifteen years ago. IIRC, it also revealed that Becky was pretty much shoved out of the picture mid-season after she had a romantic fling with one of the crew, and that one of the cast members may or may not have been using herion.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 3 August 2006 00:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah, The State. Still ahead of its time.

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Thursday, 3 August 2006 00:19 (seventeen years ago) link

You know, I remember vaguely some interview given with Becky several years after RW1 ended (hard to believe it's closing in on FIFTEEN years) where something akin to that was asserted. As for the whole heroin thing -- I suppose with certain members of that cast, that wouldn't have been much of a surprise.

Phoenix Dancing (krushsister), Thursday, 3 August 2006 00:56 (seventeen years ago) link

(Really, the only people whom I would've been shocked to hear of their consuming anything illicit would be Julie and Kevin.)

Phoenix Dancing (krushsister), Thursday, 3 August 2006 00:57 (seventeen years ago) link

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Disco Nihilist (mjt), Thursday, 3 August 2006 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I mainly agree with "The Real World". Although even though Beavis & Butthead were great, I still feel they were sort of the beginning of the end too. MTV should have stuck with music and nothing but music.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 3 August 2006 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Undressed was so shit. NOBODY ACTUALLY GOT UNDRESSED.

But it's great to look back at the early careers of rising actors who did Undressed and laugh at them for doing what was some sort of hybrid of softcore pornography and a soap opera.

Cunga (Cunga), Thursday, 3 August 2006 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link


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