Led Zeppelin: Classic Or Dud?

I can't imagine anything in the world that would enrage Jimmy Page more than being forced to add "inspired by Pete Townshend" to a writing credit.

lol

Maybe they just thought "Overture" was a traditional tune and added their stamp?

Yeah I mean "overture" wasn't that originally a Mozart joint? That shit was over 200 yrs ago so surely public domain by now, I mean really

Nice to open this thread and see some music posted instead of whining about influence

tbf Led Zeppelin has not been the most productive dormant for 35 years act.

Jimmy Page on the new reissues

https://soundcloud.com/anon_24/jimmy-page-bbc-radio-1-rock-show-interview-27052014

and he namedrops YES ! o_O

I would be up for Jimmy Page joining the current YES lineup.

Oh for a second I thought YES and YELLOW and I was like "oh cool!".

You know what's really good? Plant's "Mighty Rearranger." I saw him on the band/tour opening (sort of) for Pearl Jam at a benefit, and he and PJ played "Fool in the Rain" for apparently the first time ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqJJMiMzkks

I don't know if I can bear to listen to Vedder's hacks stumble all over that saunter of a tune with their two left feet…

ah they sound OK, but despite his posturing otherwise, Vedder's inert singing shows he's got a clear channel soul

plant sounds great though.

"whether it was YES or whoever . . . that's great, because you're passing it on"

awesome. really a shame XYZ never got off the ground. chris squire and jimmy page would have been something else together

Vedder's hacks

zzzzzzzzzz

*deep breaths*

La La is great!

Bow to the holder of the Bonham master tapes

I would be up for Jimmy Page joining the current YES lineup.

― lauded at conferences of deluded psychopaths (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 30 May 2014 21:27 (Yesterday) Permalink

lol page is WAY too sloppy for Yes. No way he could pull that off.

They play alot slower now, he'd do fine

Classic.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bou6naLCAAAElgn.jpg

Suit filed today:

...the trust for the late songwriter Randy California has sued the surviving members of Led Zeppelin and their record company for copyright infringement. The 40-page complaint, filed in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania on May 31, is itself a tribute to Stairway‘s iconic status: Its section headings are in a typeface recognizable from Led Zeppelin album covers, and it cites as a cause for action the “Falsification of Rock N’ Roll History.”

Crucially, it demands that Zeppelin guitarist Jimmy Page preserve all the recordings that led up to Stairway‘s 1971 release. That includes both studio takes of the song and the earliest bits of the composition, which Page has said he played into a portable recorder in 1970 at a stone house in Wales. Whether that demand could ever be enforced would depend on whether Page kept the tapes, which are the building blocks for the eight-minute song.

I'd never heard this Davy Graham piece from 1959 and long predating Spirit (and from someone Page was listening to closely)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tWeejHJxGjs

Really, if copping a chord sequence constitutes plagarism, about 75% of pop songs would be plagarized. There's just way more to "Stairway" than that chord progression. "Dazed and Confused" on the other hand......

i gotta feeling this lawyer aint working on contingency

dig this asshole

http://www.francisalexander.com/

also gotta love that his name is a letter away from "malfoy"

i gotta feeling this lawyer aint working on contingency

http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_luwlruPpZZ1r6i6pjo1_500.jpg

Xp that photo is just a Mason's ring and a bottle of vodka away from being a late '90s Skyy print ad.

Really, if copping a chord sequence constitutes plagarism, about 75% of pop songs would be plagarized.

the similarity goes beyond the chords themselves. I think it's different enough though.

this suit is crazy to me. i hear the similarity between the intro stairway riff and the spirit riff...but honestly i could also see it being a coincidence too

plus, it kind of pointedly ignores all the other stuff in stairway to heaven! and there's a lot!

there are more things in stairway to heaven and earth than are dreamed of in your cosmology

That JPJ photo is all time. Imagine the guy's reaction when he wakes up and his mate goes, "hey, look who you missed."

Picked up the single LP standard version of Led Zeppelin III this morning, happy/sad to report these reiussues are fucking awesome

plus, it kind of pointedly ignores all the other stuff in stairway to heaven! and there's a lot!

― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, June 4, 2014 9:35 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

There's a lot of shit.

there's a lady who's sure all that glitters is gold iirc

There's a lot of shit.

― Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Thursday, June 5, 2014 11:14 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

why don't you make like Skid Row and gtfo

Has anyone on Spirit's side claimed that they wrote all of "Stairway"? Yeah, there's a lot more to "Stairway" than the opening notes, just like there's more to, say, Jay-Z's "The Takeover" than the KRS-One sample that doesn't use a part of the Grand Funk song that doesn't use a part of the Animals song they cover, the original of which is copyrighted by Alan Lomax who didn't write it either:

http://www.ethanhein.com/wp/2011/jay-z-and-alan-lomax/

“Rosie” can’t be said to have any particular author. But Lomax was the first person to record and publish it, so according to the peculiar norms of America’s property laws, he was able to copyright it. Not only does Lomax hold the copyright for “Rosie,” he’s also listed as a co-author of both versions of “Inside Looking Out.”

Here’s where the story gets truly silly. When KRS-One sampled Grand Funk Railroad’s cover of “Inside Looking Out,” he needed the permission of both the owner of the recording and the underlying composition. This is in spite of the fact that the sample is from an instrumental section that Grand Funk added, and that doesn’t reference the original melody at all. And even though Jay-Z sampled KRS-One’s unaccompanied vocal, he also needed to get copyright permission from everyone sampled in KRS-One’s track. Including Alan Lomax.

If that's true then it's stupid as shit.

makes total sense

xp

But fwiw, Taurus doesn't even contain the same "opening notes" as stairway, just the same first-five chords

Guys Led Zeppelin is so awesome, III is killing it right now

I always forget how kick ass Celebration Day is

Out on the Tiles!

"Out on the Tiles" and "Celebration Day" both underrated tunes. Haven't listened to all of III in forever ....

Ah man, Out on the Tiles is my jam.

I'm just a simple guy, live from day to day

I haven't heard Led Zep III since I was like 15 for whatever reason. I ordered the reissue, as well as LZ I, which I never owned on cd oddly.

sounds so nice.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/robert-plant-fires-back-at-jimmy-page-have-a-good-rest-20140605

"It’s really a celebratory record, but it’s very crunchy and gritty, very West African and very Massive Attack-y," Plant said. "There’s a lot of bottom end, so it might sound all right at a Jamaican party, but I’m not sure it would sound all right on NPR."

haha this guy, you gotta love him

III keeps climbing my personal ranking of their albums. I had it at #4 way back during the LZ ballot poll; I'd put it second behind Presence now.