Led Zeppelin: Classic Or Dud?

so when are IV-Houses of the Holy-Physical Graffiti getting reissues??

Just burned through the Hoskyns book, and man, this is OTMFM:

the last couple years of the band go down in bad vibes like the end of goodfellas

― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, May 28, 2014 10:00 AM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The sad part is, it was so insanely and completely avoidable. I mean, yeah, there was some sketchy shit with Grant and his gangster buddies, but I didn't realize the beginning of the downturn would be summed up in a single quote of Page's: "I wanted to see if heroin would make me more creative. That was a mistake."

Yeah, it got hard to read when the shit started hitting the fan.

Oof, that heroin quote is rough. What a bummer.

Jimmy Page being very talkative about the remasters, LZ history, etc. Good stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpLBdUyhS-w

Was just talking to someone about the '70s, about how that decade was a such a perfect storm of post-'60s availability (sex and drugs) and pre-'60s naivete (sex and drugs). Girls lined up down the hall, literal piles of cocaine on the table, everyone was partaking and participating (except Rush, apparently) and there was apparently no standard of transgression or established moral threshold, since everyone was still in '60s rebellion mode. But somewhere that rebellion turned to abject, demonic hedonism for its own sake, which of course got really ugly, especially by the '80s, but that ugly quality only seems to have been ascribed in retrospect. Was it on this thread or somewhere else that someone noted how famous men no longer boast about the number of women they bedded, surely because they realize how few of those assignations were consensual by contemporary standards. And think of how many countless millions were spent on coke, and how many fortunes were destroyed or flushed down the toilet. Kind of mind-boggling, really.

Well, yeah.

Major league DUD except for all the sick bands they inspired

A+ contribution, would FP again

I listened to III today for the first time, and it was pretty enjoyable. I realized I haven't really sat down and listened to a full album of theirs since I was an idiot teenager who brushed off III because it had acoustic guitars in it. (Pretty sure I've only really heard I and II in full.) I like the hobbit rock vibe they have on this, and it's striking my inner T-Rex fan in all the right ways!

A big reason they're such a great band is even when they do blues workouts they throw in pop handclaps or catchy vocal parts or production tricks, etc. so it's always something special.

(Pretty sure I've only really heard I and II in full.)

III is amazing. The proverbial "departure point"

Yeah it's my fave at the moment!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvKGM93yoCI
This is AWESOME tho

Hey, how about those reissues, I'm doing something totally different, btw, more of an Arcade Fire sort of thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3L0EUbRJGk

Or maybe the National? Just U2? Anyway, totally nothing like Zeppelin, but it's cool that you all still like that stuff.

People who like rock music and hate Zep are so full of shit

Totes. I can imagine someone not liking aspects or elements, but Zep, full stop? Bunch of liars.

Anyone see any of these? Ian MacKaye was at the discussion of this one:

http://www.artisphere.com/calendar/event-details/Film-New-Media/LED-ZEPPELIN-PLAYED-HERE.aspx

am sure most of you have already heard this, but on the offchance someone hasn't - III-era out-take, and my favourite Zep bootleg relic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDoqk1Ltr8w

With Zep, there are some elements I like rather than 'a few I don't '

I like "Houses of the Holy" quite a bit, physgraf about 50% of it, the rest I could just about muster a CD worth..

I still love Physical Graffiti and In Through The Out Door the most, but love all the revisiting from the remasters Zep III slays.

Whoa I really like that Robert Plant song.

"25 Tracks Led Zeppelin Took To The Bank": acknowledging Zep's own artistry, and that this isn't news to many, basically, but good for comparative listening, to each original and Led recasting---plus: trading cards, with art which looks like R.Crumb's...
http://www.willardswormholes.com/?p=24449

wow that Plant track is a very pleasant surprise, thanks for posting

digging that, yeah. he's had a good run for the past few years!

x-post- Anyone see any of these? Ian MacKaye was at the discussion of this one:

http://www.artisphere.com/calendar/event-details/Film-New-Media/LED-ZEPPELIN-PLAYED-HERE.aspx

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, June 27, 2014 1:44 AM (14 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That's the latest doc from my buddy Jeff Heavy metal parking Lot Krulik. The movie's largely about whether Led Zep did a gig at a suburban MD Community Center outside DC, the night Nixon was inaugurated president (and how it has become mythical and legendary to some). The movie also covers how back then, many name bands used to play gigs at community centers and elk lodges and such.

Led Zeppelin: Classic Or Dud?

"25 Tracks Led Zeppelin Took To The Bank": acknowledging Zep's own artistry, and that this isn't news to many, basically, but good for comparative listening, to each original and Led recasting---plus: trading cards, with art which looks like R.Crumb's...
http://www.willardswormholes.com/?p=24449

― dow, Friday, June 27, 2014 1:56 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is very, very well done.

Totally. The one surprise for me was Bob Mosely. I knew Plant was a huge Moby Grape fan, but didn't realize they'd ripped him/them off (too).

I love zep to death but I kind of wonder if, just once in a while, page didn't look over at plant while plant was doing his outlandish vocal riffing and just think to himself "bloody Christ, shut the fuck up"

Probably the same amount of times Plant looked over during one of Page's ridic guitar solos/theremin showmanship and thought the same thing.

http://kingoftheflatscreen.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/the-odd-couple-12.jpg

http://www.oddcouple.info/pictures/speed.jpghttp://vinylmanifesto.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/John_Paul_Jones.jpg
I'm neutral, like Switzerland

So pass/agg that when Page & Plant reunited w/out Jones, they called the album No Quarter, after the song that was Jones' showcase in the Led Zep stage show.

Never thought about that! Also, Jones is 1/4th of Led Zep - no quarter!

Did Page/Plant ever offer any explanation, plausible or otherwise, for why they didn't bring JPJ in for that project?

and do Page-Plant hate JPJ or is it b/c playing with JPJ signifies "Led Zep reunion"?

Fyrst tyme inne Boston: '69 footage recently surfaced, miraculously coinciding with herald of latest reissue series:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3cQpwCRC10#t=50

xpost Story I heard, from someone who's been fairly close to members of Zeppelin over decades, is that Plant can't bear to be in the same room as Jones.

is he gassy?

yeah JPJ always seemed like a pretty level headed dude, and Plant is supposed to be really nice, that seems so weird

And if it wasn't for the two of them working together so intensely, ITTOD probably wouldn't have happened, what with Page barely functioning/strung out.

Perhaps those two have a long standing, long simmering rivalry over which is the nice and responsible one?

I mean, could happen.

i have heard tell of some quite gobsmacking pettiness between plant and page in the past over reissues projects and so on, so little would surprise me tbh.

on the III remasters there's some weird little hissy ambient thumping that precedes "immigrant song" - has that always been there?? seems weird that you'd remaster an album and leave in this crufty sound

Yep, that's been there since the first release:
http://youtu.be/QCiLIptmpps

lol i think this shows the time that's passed - during my heavy zep phase i only ever heard these songs on LPs or the radio