Two Joints also terrible
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:22 (ten years ago) link
yeah i totally can't imagine this song as inescapable (think i first heard about it in an article about the spur posse in Rolling Stone, saw the video on 120 minutes a couple times and bought a 20th Century Masters disc of the band - wound up keeping like half the tracks) and can totally imagine how quickly social context can turn it into the worst thing ever
― da croupier, Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:28 (ten years ago) link
KROQ was on a holy mission to make Sublime the biggest thing ever. SoCal's answer to Seattle or something.
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:29 (ten years ago) link
omg spur posse
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:30 (ten years ago) link
Voted for the same shit as everyone. "Last Resort" is dumb but it's hard to deny that chorus.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:31 (ten years ago) link
i kind of assumed Sublime was like the Minutemen for meatheads or something
― da croupier, Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:32 (ten years ago) link
cut my life into pizzas
― ciderpress, Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:33 (ten years ago) link
i kind of figured sublime was like jimmy buffett for people too young to own a boat
― goole, Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:34 (ten years ago) link
Sublime is like an infected toe fungus
― Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:34 (ten years ago) link
only song in the top 25 i'd never even heard OF before seeing this thread is Offspring's "Bad Habit." Apparently it was the 4th radio single but i only remember the first 3.
― da croupier, Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:36 (ten years ago) link
gonna go check lyricwiki and find out if habit rhymes with "grab it"
sublime was the one of these i really wasn't ok with even back when i listened to all this stuff on the radio, regularly, by choice
― ciderpress, Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:37 (ten years ago) link
it doesn't, habit only rhymes with habit.
the song's about killing bad drivers apparently
― da croupier, Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:37 (ten years ago) link
Drivers are rudeSuch attitudesBut when I show my pieceComplaints cease, something's oddI feel like I'm GodYou stupid dumb-shit god-damn motherfucker!
― da croupier, Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:38 (ten years ago) link
such attitudes.
― goole, Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:39 (ten years ago) link
12-year-old me thought that was the most badass lyric ever. And it was among the five albums I owned in total.
― skip, Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:39 (ten years ago) link
lol, minutemen vs. sublime is so good twin vs. evil twin.
― mattresslessness, Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:39 (ten years ago) link
so like, a year or two after the "cop killer" brouhaha kroq was regularly playing a song about killing people on the freeway and i'm hearing about 20 years later
― da croupier, Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:40 (ten years ago) link
same here. kinda think it's still undeniable idk
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:40 (ten years ago) link
i knew that line via teen osmosis but never knew the song nor it's 'meaning' ha
― goole, Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:41 (ten years ago) link
its just one of those days
― ciderpress, Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:42 (ten years ago) link
xxxpost wait til you hear about "pumped up kicks" in 2030
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:42 (ten years ago) link
I have to vote for Last Resort as I don't think I've even listened to that sublime song. It's weird that it's not only their most requested song (what i got and santeriaI'd assume are their most popular tracks) but that it's the most requested song of all time.Seems to me like someone from 4chan or a group of organized trolls decided it would be funny to request Date Rape every day.
― Moka, Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:43 (ten years ago) link
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I believe I got in trouble for playing this song on the stereo during high school art class.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:43 (ten years ago) link
ha i know and love "pumped up kicks", though yeah, i'm kind of amazed it achieved the degree of play and lack of controversy it did
― da croupier, Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:43 (ten years ago) link
to be fair to the hoi polloi i don't think i grasped the lyrical content of kicks until the song was already in the top 10
― da croupier, Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:44 (ten years ago) link
this is like an Eagles verse stripped of social niceties
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:45 (ten years ago) link
Seems to me like someone from 4chan or a group of organized trolls decided it would be funny to request Date Rape every day.
― Moka, Thursday, 10 July 2014
4chan didn't even exist then.
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:46 (ten years ago) link
xp 'helena beat' was like the exact same song structurally with a bigger hook so i'm surprised it wasn't that one that was bigger if the lyrics dont have anything to do with it
― ciderpress, Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:47 (ten years ago) link
so wait no one's gonna pick The Smiths?
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:47 (ten years ago) link
"how soon is now" for worst? gtfo
― da croupier, Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:48 (ten years ago) link
that smiths song is kind of a jam isn't it
unless i'm thinking of the wrong one
― ciderpress, Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:48 (ten years ago) link
I assumed by now someone would have
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:48 (ten years ago) link
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― skip, Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:49 (ten years ago) link
I'm probably voting for "Just a Girl" because their watery ska punk + her voice made late nineties radio unbearable.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:49 (ten years ago) link
is there a lex of American modern rock? Kinda thinking he'd love No Doubt and hate The Smiths.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:50 (ten years ago) link
"self-esteem," "gotta get away" and "come out and play" were modern rock top tens while "bad habit" didn't chart anywhere so i have to assume it was only popular on kroq and a couple like-minded morning zoos
and the tape decks of 12 year olds, obv
― da croupier, Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:51 (ten years ago) link
any Dramarama lovers here?
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:53 (ten years ago) link
are there any Dramarama lovers on the board tonight? get them up against the wall
(sorry)
― Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:54 (ten years ago) link
i can totally understand people squirming at the glibness of "date rape" - as I said, I dunno how I feel about it being the no. 1 KROQ call-in jam, esp when Sublime clearly weren't worried about indulging in homophobic pandering in the last verse.But it's a matter-of-fact acknowledgement that date rape exists, is about power and opportunity (last verse underscores that), and is fucking bullshit, in a genre chock full of mouth-foaming misogyny and objectification (rest of list underscores that).Not saying you have to play it at your wedding, not saying that watching a room of dudes hoot and holler over it isn't gross. Just pointing out why that girl at karaoke may not think it's the worst thing ever.― da croupier, Thursday, July 10, 2014 10:29 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
But it's a matter-of-fact acknowledgement that date rape exists, is about power and opportunity (last verse underscores that), and is fucking bullshit, in a genre chock full of mouth-foaming misogyny and objectification (rest of list underscores that).
Not saying you have to play it at your wedding, not saying that watching a room of dudes hoot and holler over it isn't gross. Just pointing out why that girl at karaoke may not think it's the worst thing ever.
― da croupier, Thursday, July 10, 2014 10:29 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This is fair up to a point, but it's sorta giving them too much of a free pass: congratulations, you wrote a song that in some way attaches negativity to something people should be writing other, better and more nuanced songs about. Neanderthal and mattresslessness OTM about its bogus ethical universe. Also the worst consequence of date rape is A DUDE WILL SEX YOU, it's just really high school junior level of dealing with the material. I 0000000000000000000000feel okay writing off the girl at karaoke, not because she relates to the song, but because she is stoked to hear Sublime at karaoke, as if this is some sort of unprecedented wonder.
Thinking about "Girls" and the request line - I mean, I know that people frequently request songs that are often played anyway, but it's maybe SORT of the case that this list does reflect the fact that, say, they were going to play Sabotage and Fight For Your Right anyway, and people calling in for Girls felt they were aiming for a relative 'deep cut.'
The expanded list looks a lot better than 1-25 IMO. I mean "Boyz N the Hood" is awful but kind of forgettably background despite the dumbass premise of the whole operation. I mean if you don't realize it's "we're doing a funky bro summer jam cover of a rap song!" it's just kind of a melodic beige, like a less-good "The Hooch." Feel like the top finishers here are all kind of sonically attention-seeky. Also "Chop Suey" rules and I similarly cannot shake my teenage impressedness at STUPID DUMB SHIT GOD DAMNED MOTHERFUCKER!!!!!. Would rather hear "Bad Habit" than any of their other hits probably.
I'm weirdly kind of won over by the defenses of Last Resort. I once tried to lobby for Broken Home on similar grounds, but the internet crashed and I lost the post. lol at ciderpress's reading in any case.
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:56 (ten years ago) link
If Oingo wasn't on the list (and who knows, maybe i'll "get" them the longer i'm in LA, certainly get played enough on my new wave sirius station of choice), I'd probably vote for "Self-Esteem" which just never did anything for me (certainly had little sympathy to dudes who hate their horny girlfriends when i was a teenager). the rest i can basically dig.
― da croupier, Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:57 (ten years ago) link
I presume that Girls got most of its requests prior to the existence of Sabotage. Probably got so much play due to its novelty value (like so many of these songs).
― how's life, Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:59 (ten years ago) link
I was on the Oingo Boingo train from the first time I saw the video for "Nothing Bad Ever Happens" and it took them doing an adult-contemporary album for them to make me reconsider.
― Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:59 (ten years ago) link
self-esteem lyrics didn't really mean anything to me either but i still think its kind of great
― ciderpress, Thursday, 10 July 2014 17:01 (ten years ago) link
Strike the above, I would rather hear "All I Want" or maybe even "Meaning of Life." see also WORST Single By Green Day or the Offspring
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 10 July 2014 17:06 (ten years ago) link
ixnay on the hombre was one of the first CDs i owned but i don't think i've listened to it in 10+ years
― ciderpress, Thursday, 10 July 2014 17:08 (ten years ago) link
RIP Lou Dogg
― sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 July 2014 17:54 (ten years ago) link
Nowell was known to invite his friends and their dogs over to film parodies of popular music videos; the dogs would pose as a band or an artist, dressed in corresponding costumes.[citation needed]
― how's life, Thursday, 10 July 2014 17:55 (ten years ago) link
http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.inticketing.com/tickets.slims-sf.com/images/lou_dog_trio.jpg
― sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 July 2014 17:56 (ten years ago) link
Didn't vote for "Date Rape", but if we polled the second part of the list I would've definitely chosen "Wrong Way". I hate that fukkin song.
― odd proggy geezer (Moodles), Thursday, 10 July 2014 19:13 (ten years ago) link