waiting for an artist to record a track so that he gets the inevitable "Posdonus ft. Eric Clapton" vibes
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 18:48 (ten years ago) link
It's produced by Rahki.
― MarkoP, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 18:50 (ten years ago) link
The second half of the song is immeasurably superior to the first
― voodoo chili, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 18:51 (ten years ago) link
the "jesus walks"-y bridge is kinda cool
i don't really mind this
― snrub goin up on a tuesday (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 19:40 (ten years ago) link
Thundercat!
― ban raccoon tanuki (The Reverend), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 19:44 (ten years ago) link
yeah i don't dislike it, sounded aight on the radio when i heard it just now (although they cut off like the whole last 30 seconds, which was a shame).
still, to take a year plus to release a new single after "Control" and come with this seems just asking for backlash from the exact audience that got him to platinum last time.
― some dude, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 19:52 (ten years ago) link
i think the slightly but not hugely polarized response will work in his favor ultimately, and radio seems to be eating it up (heard it twice in 30 mins)
― dyl, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 20:05 (ten years ago) link
xxp it's gotta be him right? Haven't seen any confirmation anywhere though.
― voodoo chili, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 20:06 (ten years ago) link
yeah i feel like strategically this is smart, it's a bold move rather than a measured one
― deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 20:20 (ten years ago) link
The guitar sound the Isleys used in the original is one of my favorite unique tones in all of music, so even if it's a little corny I don't mind hearing it here.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 20:31 (ten years ago) link
xp Yeah the audience for huffy, real-rap gymnastics is pretty much the same as the audience for happy late-'80s/early-'90s throwbacks, so this probably isn't too much of a risk. But it feels like a huge shift anyway, and the upbeat outlook (even if just on this one track) will help distinguish the album from GKMC's sober moralism
― Evan R, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 20:32 (ten years ago) link
There was a kind of corny 3 Feet High-ish Kendrick track on the last Eminem album that seemed like a lark at the time but now seems like it laid the groundwork for this
― Evan R, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 20:33 (ten years ago) link
From what I gather almost everyone is enthusiastic and it would take a real clunker to end the public's honeymoon with Kendrick.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 20:34 (ten years ago) link
you like travis scott
And you live for Gucci Mane, shall we continue?
Kendrick is just plain mediocre. Give me Eddie Kendricks, or Kendrick Jeru Davis.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 20:53 (ten years ago) link
you forgot Anna
― Now you're messing with a (President Keyes), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 21:03 (ten years ago) link
i will take gucci & kendrick over travis scott, yes
― deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 21:05 (ten years ago) link
http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/6/files/2010/09/kyle.jpg
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 21:08 (ten years ago) link
http://nbchardballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/350x146.jpg
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 21:11 (ten years ago) link
makes me think of something from those early kanye mix-cds, or his 'touch the sky' even. the last third is very fly-lo/thundercat.
― StillAdvance, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 22:29 (ten years ago) link
Yeah first part definitely made me think of early Kanye too. It's the obvious soul sample x once-patented Insane Conga Rolls
― ban raccoon tanuki (The Reverend), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 00:04 (ten years ago) link
Touch the Sky is a good comparison, upbeat, famous soul sample. There's some Stankonia thrown in there as well.
― voodoo chili, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 04:22 (ten years ago) link
Snap judgement it's better "Touch the Sky" but not as good as Stankonia
― ban raccoon tanuki (The Reverend), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 05:25 (ten years ago) link
also this was brought to my attention and is nuts awesome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4Oz8UmUXbg
terrible whiny/kiddy voice on that new single, maybe it's supposed to show versatility but I really can't listen to it, too annoying... enjoy the beat though
feel the same way abt his verse on "m.A.A.d city" though it's a different whine
― niels, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 07:37 (ten years ago) link
If he knew how to write a hook/have even mildly insightful something to say other than pussy/money/his dick/ maybe his rapping skills could be put to some use. Usually his production is solid enough. The Art of Peer Pressure was pretty good, more focused. But he doesn't have enough verbal dexterity or technique to pull off his cliched lyrics.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 07:52 (ten years ago) link
sock
― deej loaf (D-40), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 08:39 (ten years ago) link
mhmm...
― ban raccoon tanuki (The Reverend), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 09:18 (ten years ago) link
lmao this song. i would probably like it without the corny lyrics on the hook, which push it from charming throwback into "happy" territory
or more pertinently as molly lambert pointed out, "shake it off" territory
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 10:27 (ten years ago) link
"But he doesn't have enough verbal dexterity or technique to pull off his cliched lyrics."
id say technique and dexterity are two things he has in abundance (just listen to the song hes done with flying lotus). my main issue is that even when hes putting on that weird voice and writing something cheesily upbeat (which i dont mind, as i have a soft spot for that kind of thing), there is still something weirdly dry about his tone/vibe on this, dry how talib/common etc can be when theyre at their least engaging/most earnest, almost like hes doing it/saying it because he thinks he HAS to rather than because he wants to. i might need to hear it more though. but its a fun throwaway kind of track, hopefully something you get on an itunes deluxe download rather than the centrepiece of the album.
― StillAdvance, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 10:36 (ten years ago) link
actually i think its just that sometimes when kendrick is in his technique-heavy mode, he does become a bit boring. so on the song with fly lo, i do go 'wow' at how good a rapper he is (cos he is seriously impressive), but i dont find it all that involving, but thats probably another debate best saved for threads about rappity rappers vs the chief keefs or wakas of this world.
― StillAdvance, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 11:05 (ten years ago) link
I don't know why you'd waste the time honestly engaging with someone who criticized Kendrick on the grounds of not having anything insightful to say "other than pussy/money/his dick/".
― Greer, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 14:16 (ten years ago) link
I put Kendrick as a passenger on the same hype train as Earl and Frank Ocean along all 3 of their underwhelming lps. 'nothing new nothin new yall aint saying nothing knew'
Scaface life lyrics can work if you're, say Biggie, with the character, force of personality, verbal technique, voice etc. Ken simply doesn't.
But maybe, listening to hh for so long I hold rappers up to a standard higher. I don't think Ken said anything of worth, or with the delivery of rappers from the past, from Outkast lines, to Snoop hooks, to Biggie delivery, Wu tang's creativity to Pac's presence and lyrics, Ken is just a poor relation.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 15:13 (ten years ago) link
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WwDaoULXp2Y/TrBi8ZG9OkI/AAAAAAAAAog/92fGO7QQmic/s1600/Mike%2BNapoleon.jpg
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 15:18 (ten years ago) link
New heads and hype click needy sites constantly cite dudes like Earl, ASAP, Kendrick, Danny Brown as "great". It's just funny. Will any of these dudes have the influence on people, other rappers, and music like Slick Rick, Ghost, 3000, Nas, Big, Pac, Jay, Scarface, Snoop, KRS, Rakim, Kane, Kool G Rap etc etc etc? Obviously not, and I have no idea why they get all this acclaim before they've even done anything?
"Earl is set to replace Illmatic" was a thing that was said often.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 15:22 (ten years ago) link
Where?
― tsrobodo, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 15:26 (ten years ago) link
Cocaine laced in marijuanaAnd they wonder why I rarely smoke nowImagine if your first blunt had you foaming at the mouthI was straight tweaking the next weekend, we broke evenI made allegiance that made a promise to see you bleedingYou know the reasons but still won't ever know my lifeKendrick A.K.A. Compton's human sacrifice
I mean this stuff is just like....
I think in this line he must mean PCP, not coke, either way Wu used to shower in the stuff before breakfast. Then later on Ghost would have half of NY's rappers swinging from his arms in the Tunnel. And they wouldn't rap about it either.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 15:29 (ten years ago) link
New heads and hype click needy sites constantly cite dudes like Earl, ASAP, Kendrick, Danny Brown as "great".
Where?[2]
― Greer, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 15:35 (ten years ago) link
See this is my standard:
Call an ambulance, Jamie been shot, word to KimmyDon't go Son, nigga you my motherfuckin heartStay still Son, don't move, just think about KeebaShe'll be three in January, your young God needs yaThe ambulance is taking too longEverybody get the fuck back, excuse me bitch, gimme your jackOne, seven one eight, nine one one, low battery, damnBlood comin out his mouth, he bleedin badlyNahhh Jamie, don't start that shitKeep your head up, if you escape hell we gettin fucked upWhen we was eight, we went to Bat Day to see the YanksIn Sixty-Nine, his father and mines, they robbed banksHe pointed to the charm on his neckWith his last bit of energy left, told me rock it with respectI opened it, seen the God holdin his kidsPhotogenic, tears just burst out my wigPlus he dropped one, oh shit, here come his Old EarthWith no shoes on, screamin holdin her breasts with a gown onShe fell and then lightly touched his jaw, kissed himRubbed his hair, turned around the ambulance was therePlus the blue coats, Officer Lough, took it as a jokeWeeks ago he strip-searched the God and gave him back his cokeBitches yellin, Beenie Man swung on HelenIn the back of a cop car, Dirty Tasha are tellinBut suddenly a chill came through it was weirdFelt like my man, was cast out my heaven now we shareLaid on the stretcher, blood on his Wally's like ketchupDeep like the full assassination with a sketch of itIt can't be, from Yohoo to Lee'sSecond grade humped the teachers, about to leaveFinally this closed chapter, comes to an endHe was announced, pronounced dead, y'all, at twelve ten
Drick is a long, looooooong way from being able to produce lyrics like this. Before ewe even get into his style. Ghost was I think the same age as Kendrick is now when he wrote that.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 15:42 (ten years ago) link
Drick is loooooooong.
― Spottie, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 15:56 (ten years ago) link
I really like that Tanuki spelled out he might have been listening to 'hh' for too long, because he sounds exactly like those old rock-fans complaining that nobody plays guitar like Jimmy Page anymore, or whatever.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 16:02 (ten years ago) link
"Kendrick is not even hardcore about his drug use. He is a big old lightweight. what a noob"
― The Complainte of Ray Tabano, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 16:21 (ten years ago) link
#listeningtohollyhunterforsolong
― longneck, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 16:25 (ten years ago) link
Not really because I've always liked new hip hop, I like the ones who do something different, creative. I just don't like Kendrick, or I should he's ok, I just don't like the hype, the hyperbole over an average dude, same like Frank Ocean. Kendrick and Frank are 2 dudes pitchfork gave 9.5 and chose as doing so to pin their business on them. These are 2 young debut artists who we're going to hype and back as a guarentee of interest on our site in the future. It's all business I'm just talking about surprised when people buy into it.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 16:26 (ten years ago) link
#listeningtohowardhughesforsolong
― longneck, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 16:28 (ten years ago) link
#listeningtotravisscöttforsolong
― longneck, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 16:29 (ten years ago) link
#listeningtoraccoontanukiforsolong
― longneck, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 16:30 (ten years ago) link
I love Gibbs, Young Thug, Kanye, Future, Keef even Drake. These dudes sound different and deserve praise. I don't need to compare a Keef to a Ghostface verse or an 3000 verse because he's doing something totally different. But I can put up the arrival of 'Bang' and 'I don't like' to something similar in effect that Protect Ya Neck had on the industry and genre when we talk about rawness and the context of its arrival and kind of shock value. I can talk about Wayne mixtapes influence and A Milli verse as a lynchpin of influence style on 100s of rappers verses after it, etc etc. Kendrick hasn't *done* anything.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 16:36 (ten years ago) link
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3901/15146220570_295b3c847b.jpg
― 💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 16:38 (ten years ago) link
Can't believe I only rated Kendrick because I was subconsciously buying into Pitchfork's brand-building. Thanks Raccoon!
― Re-Make/Re-Model, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 16:42 (ten years ago) link
anytime man.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 17:08 (ten years ago) link