Which Of These Alt-Rock Acts Would Most Infuriate You If They Made The R'n'R Hall Of Fame Before The Foo Fighters Undoubted Will In 2020

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if there's a Rock 'n Roll Hall of Unremarkable, Weezer should be the inaugural inductees

💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Friday, 10 October 2014 16:08 (ten years ago) link

Sheryl Crow is gonna make it though.

how's life, Friday, 10 October 2014 16:12 (ten years ago) link

i will say it's vaguely bullshit if Cheap Trick and Boston don't get in before Weezer, but their pioneering efforts in the welding of indie simp and cockrock have clearly withstood the test of time

da croupier, Friday, 10 October 2014 16:12 (ten years ago) link

in terms of modern rock radio play i probably should have included sheryl crow on this list but it's realllllll hard to think of her as "alt-rock" in terms of her sound and choice of peers

da croupier, Friday, 10 October 2014 16:19 (ten years ago) link

while dave grohl's impressively display of classic-rock ass-smooching is what will get him in the HOF lickety-split, he still shows up at Bob Mould shows too

da croupier, Friday, 10 October 2014 16:20 (ten years ago) link

and let an ex-germ be one of his 80 rhythm guitarists

da croupier, Friday, 10 October 2014 16:21 (ten years ago) link

most of these are superior to foo fighters

strychnine, Friday, 10 October 2014 16:25 (ten years ago) link

logic for the bands i put on poll:

Pearl Jam: duh.
Rage Against The Machine: political, critically and commercially hailed, as close to a rap-rock group as dave marsh could likely tolerate
Soundgarden: just as america appreciated their sorta-classy grunge-to-hard-rock in 1994 i think the HOF could want a grunge-to-hard-rock act by 2019.
Alice In Chains: "damn grunge is good for ratings, anybody else respectable out there...oooh and pictures of a dead guy on stage, yeah."
Weezer: Getting Generation Y to watch will become increasingly important over the decade
Stone Temple Pilots: probably the biggest stretch but commercially enduring and a semi-bone-throw to the woodstock III crowd
The Pixies (Doolittle is platinum now!): the indie "influence" band that has made the most arena hay out of being one
Jane's Addiction: the dude invented lollapalooza
No Doubt: ska AND female front-person tokenism
Beck: a man who co-opted rap AND gordon lightfoot in the name of hipster cool
Bjork: Kate Bush is in
The Cure: SO FUCKING OVERDUE THE KINGS OF GOTH ARENA ROCK HOW CAN NINE INCH NAILS GET IN BEFORE THIS, BEATS MUSIC ILLUMINATI SHIT ASIDE
Depeche Mode: if any batch of post-kraftwerkian synth dweebs can get in, it's these arena fillers.
Oasis: They kept rock alive in the late 90s

da croupier, Friday, 10 October 2014 16:33 (ten years ago) link

and by "kept rock alive" i mean they were an ad for beatles albums

da croupier, Friday, 10 October 2014 16:37 (ten years ago) link

lol wait kate bush isn't in, oh well.

da croupier, Friday, 10 October 2014 16:39 (ten years ago) link

Criteria include the influence and significance of the artists’ contributions to the development and perpetuation of rock and roll.

lool at the herrlich (wins), Friday, 10 October 2014 16:39 (ten years ago) link

i think FF will prob get in at some point but probably not right away. Paul McCartney solo only got inducted after being eligible for several years and Wings never got in.

Raccoon Newsy Wewsies (some dude), Friday, 10 October 2014 17:53 (ten years ago) link

well if he doesn't it won't be for lack of trying

also as the years go on, they're going to be hard up for groups with any degree of currency. it was a pretty rich market when paul was up for a nod.

da croupier, Friday, 10 October 2014 17:59 (ten years ago) link

also c'mon paul mccartney and wings weren't going to get separate inductions

da croupier, Friday, 10 October 2014 18:01 (ten years ago) link

were Smashing Pumpkins an oversight in this poll or fall into some other category? i feel like they're more likely than all but maybe 3 on the list

Raccoon Newsy Wewsies (some dude), Friday, 10 October 2014 18:02 (ten years ago) link

xpost AW MAN forgot them too dammit

i'll say the foos might have had to wait a while in an alternate reality where Kurt Cobain/Plastic Love Band existed

da croupier, Friday, 10 October 2014 18:03 (ten years ago) link

corgan's such a dillpickle i'd be more inclined to say "all but 3" will get in before them (neither yes nor the cure are in) but pumpkins definitely belong on the list

da croupier, Friday, 10 October 2014 18:05 (ten years ago) link

i mean who in the industry is like "you know who needs more respect, billy corgan" aside from billy corgan

da croupier, Friday, 10 October 2014 18:06 (ten years ago) link

it's gotta be fuckin Weezer

Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Friday, 10 October 2014 18:25 (ten years ago) link

Bjork is the only person listed I want to see inducted (incl. FF).

Eric H., Friday, 10 October 2014 18:45 (ten years ago) link

Billy Corgan could definitely have a great Mike Love moment at the podium

Raccoon Newsy Wewsies (some dude), Friday, 10 October 2014 18:47 (ten years ago) link

Bjork: Kate Bush is in

Time for another debate about PJ Harvey's odds.

jaymc, Friday, 10 October 2014 18:48 (ten years ago) link

Weezer, christ

example (crüt), Friday, 10 October 2014 18:53 (ten years ago) link

the only purpose of the rock and roll hall of fame was to troll kiss fans and it doesn't even serve that purpose anymore, so why would anyone let themselves get infuriated by someone getting in

iatee, Friday, 10 October 2014 18:55 (ten years ago) link

see above where i suggested one not let verb choice disrupt their zen

voting "da croupier, you putz" not just out of shame for forgetting radiohead and the pumpkins but also because, while radiohead predates weezer in terms of possible induction, and weezer's critical stature wasn't solidified until the '00s, it stems up from albums circa 94-96, where radiohead's mostly stems from albums circa 95-00. seeing thom york on stage would force me to acknowledge that the my college years are now classic rock rather than my high school years. so they'd offend me most.

da croupier, Friday, 10 October 2014 18:57 (ten years ago) link

Foo fighters are worse than all the poll options

brimstead, Friday, 10 October 2014 23:47 (ten years ago) link

This is clearly No Doubt. Are there any ska bands in the RnRHOF? It would be like, say, Fatboy Slim getting elected before Chic. Wait, that'll probably happen!

NoTimeBeforeTime, Saturday, 11 October 2014 12:24 (ten years ago) link

Tori Amos has way more chance than Björk, imo: multiple platinum records, domestic, always-been-on-a-major, high-grossing tours, etc. The only infuriating thing for me is seeing that DM and Cure are not yet HOF'd that is strange

fgti, Saturday, 11 October 2014 13:01 (ten years ago) link

Yeah I guess I see tori as having less cultural recognition or critical stature, despite selling more in the early 90s and being more prolific. But since all the early alt ladies are playing to the converted and not guesting on singing competition shows or played on 90s nostalgia radio much, its hard to guess where the hall will go when they decide they need to acknowledge some.

da croupier, Saturday, 11 October 2014 15:17 (ten years ago) link

I mean there's always Hole

da croupier, Saturday, 11 October 2014 15:18 (ten years ago) link

dgaf. none of these would infuriate me bc the rnrhof is meaningless.

billstevejim, Saturday, 11 October 2014 15:25 (ten years ago) link

i really should have added an "i am above such concerns, despite being a music-nerd board regular, and want you to know that" option

da croupier, Saturday, 11 October 2014 15:28 (ten years ago) link

I dislike Oasis but it's hard to deny their place in the world as a significant rock band

I like them and i do deny it. Boy, the UK is a funny place.

Bjork is the only person listed I want to see inducted (incl. FF).

You hate rock 'n' roll, big surprise.

this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 11 October 2014 15:47 (ten years ago) link

it's not Eric's Hall of Shake Your Ass Music

this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 11 October 2014 15:48 (ten years ago) link

Problem #1.

Eric H., Saturday, 11 October 2014 16:33 (ten years ago) link

i mean, i know how to fix the Pro Football HOF too -- by inducting Bonds and Clemens

this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 11 October 2014 20:53 (ten years ago) link

i guess maybe i'm in the wrong thread but how great would it be to see Pavement in the rnrhof

alpine static, Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:55 (ten years ago) link

also the answer to this poll is clearly RATM, then Alice in Chains

alpine static, Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:56 (ten years ago) link

foo fighters would still maybe be worse than all but STP.

― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Friday, October 10, 2014 6:37 AM (Yesterday)

i agree with this

dyl, Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:27 (ten years ago) link

i guess maybe i'm in the wrong thread but how great would it be to see Pavement in the rnrhof

― alpine static, Saturday, October 11, 2014 2:55 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is otm. I'm hoping they are inducted in like 2039, in the same way the hall has inducted older blues and doo-wop groups during the past 10 years. It'd be worth it to see a bunch of guys in their 70s plow through "Cut Your Hair."

intheblanks, Sunday, 12 October 2014 05:04 (ten years ago) link

foo fighters are worse than every band on the list

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Sunday, 12 October 2014 09:05 (ten years ago) link

jane's addiction and rage against the machine are the only bands on here I don't like and of the two it's hard to say which is more annoying.

Stone Temple Pilots rule, open your minds.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 12 October 2014 09:16 (ten years ago) link

I guess now that I think about it there's only one no doubt song I like.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 12 October 2014 09:17 (ten years ago) link

Bjork, I mean if they don't have Kate Bush in there already then the hell, people.

I'd rather have Weezer and Pavement actually get in the Hall of Fame, but suspect it's never going to happen.

agincourtgirl, Sunday, 12 October 2014 21:09 (ten years ago) link

Keep reading "FF" as Final Fantasy. I prefer my alternate reality.

emil.y, Sunday, 12 October 2014 21:24 (ten years ago) link

oasis infuriates me. i like no doubt!

syro gyra (get bent), Sunday, 12 October 2014 22:47 (ten years ago) link

but yeah, fuck the foo fighters and dave grohl's dadrock self-importance.

syro gyra (get bent), Sunday, 12 October 2014 22:48 (ten years ago) link

Pretty much like every poll option more than the FFs as well, even the ones I don't like as a band but have to cherry pick songs from, such as Oasis. Only thing I liked from Dave G in recent decades is his work with QOTSA.

Bobby Ono Bland (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 12 October 2014 23:15 (ten years ago) link

It'd be worth it to see a bunch of guys in their 70s plow through "Cut Your Hair."

Screw that, they'd play "Serpentine Pad" or "Yr Killing Me" or "Unfair" because they rule

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 12 October 2014 23:19 (ten years ago) link

No Doubt is hella good you guys.

how's life, Sunday, 12 October 2014 23:37 (ten years ago) link

Plenty of rock bands who blew up in the 00s, but I guess the thing is that it's rare now that bands cut their teeth in relative obscurity for a few years/albums and then get their big break, but instead are picked up in the pre-demo stage, matched with the producer-du-jour and are marketed with full major label force for their debut. It's a new MO for sure but I don't really see that as a "collapse of the industry".

Siegbran, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:23 (ten years ago) link

But I guess Coldplay and Muse are the quintessential "started in the 90s blew up in the 00s" bands.

Siegbran, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:26 (ten years ago) link

Coldplay's first album was released in 2000, they only JUST count.

Oasis are probably the worst here other than maybe Stone Temple Pilots which is just so unlikely as to not be worth the vote, so I went for Weezer because seriously.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:29 (ten years ago) link

no doubt would be baffling and prob impossible

Ass Tchotchke! (jjjusten), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 23:38 (ten years ago) link

fyi muse has yet to even go platinum in the us, so if they're the quintessential band that "blew up" in the 00s that kind of proves my point that few did

da croupier, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 23:48 (ten years ago) link

and if you don't believe there's been a "collapse of the industry" google "music industry collapse"

da croupier, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 23:52 (ten years ago) link

Voted Oasis as the band here I hate the most.

Weezer would be especially objectionable, but I still like their first album, so y'know...

ed.b, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 23:54 (ten years ago) link

Not in the sense that the industry makes less money (that's obvious), but in the sense that they can't launch bands into superstardom anymore. Even if fans are stealing rather than buying their albums these days, bands like Muse, Foo Fighters, Kings Of Leon, Coldplay etc are superstars to their generation in the same sense that Pink Floyd or Led Zeppelin were - they sell out the same arenas etc.

Siegbran, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 23:59 (ten years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Thursday, 30 October 2014 00:01 (ten years ago) link

top 2 otm

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 30 October 2014 00:01 (ten years ago) link

awww i like that nobody hates the cure

da croupier, Thursday, 30 October 2014 00:03 (ten years ago) link

Oh plenty hate the Cure but not as much as these other bozos.

everything, Thursday, 30 October 2014 00:08 (ten years ago) link

weezer twice as infuriating as oasis? what the fuck? what has oasis done that's even close to the green album?

how's life, Thursday, 30 October 2014 00:08 (ten years ago) link

the ... green album?

jaymc, Thursday, 30 October 2014 05:00 (ten years ago) link

six years pass...

bump bump bump

da croupier, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 17:57 (three years ago) link

Impressed by their restraint in waiting until 2021

da croupier, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 17:58 (three years ago) link

worst hall ever

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 17:59 (three years ago) link

beaten by cure, depeche mode, and pearl jam. 7 infuriated ilxors by my count.

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 18:06 (three years ago) link

bump bump bump

― da croupier, Wednesday, May 12, 2021 12:57 PM (forty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

damn b2k is almost rrhof eligible

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 18:39 (three years ago) link

Beck, Bjork & Addiction, my favourite supergroup. (Dumb old-guy joke.)

clemenza, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 18:42 (three years ago) link

worst hall ever

― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Business_Hall_of_Fame

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 18:43 (three years ago) link

it's not Eric's Hall of Shake Your Ass Music
― this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Saturday, October 11, 2014 10:48 AM (six years ago)

I still say it should be.

i carry the torch for disco inauthenticity (Eric H.), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 18:53 (three years ago) link

Besides the three that are already in, the only acts to get nominated were RATM, Soundgarden and Jane's Addiction.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 13 May 2021 14:59 (three years ago) link

i think both rage and soundgarden have a pretty good chance of eventually getting in.

tom morello is not quite on the dave grohl level of "rock ambassador" but he's close. and people seem to miss chris cornell.

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 May 2021 15:19 (three years ago) link


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