if there's a Rock 'n Roll Hall of Unremarkable, Weezer should be the inaugural inductees
― 💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Friday, 10 October 2014 16:08 (ten years ago) link
Sheryl Crow is gonna make it though.
― how's life, Friday, 10 October 2014 16:12 (ten years ago) link
i will say it's vaguely bullshit if Cheap Trick and Boston don't get in before Weezer, but their pioneering efforts in the welding of indie simp and cockrock have clearly withstood the test of time
― da croupier, Friday, 10 October 2014 16:12 (ten years ago) link
in terms of modern rock radio play i probably should have included sheryl crow on this list but it's realllllll hard to think of her as "alt-rock" in terms of her sound and choice of peers
― da croupier, Friday, 10 October 2014 16:19 (ten years ago) link
while dave grohl's impressively display of classic-rock ass-smooching is what will get him in the HOF lickety-split, he still shows up at Bob Mould shows too
― da croupier, Friday, 10 October 2014 16:20 (ten years ago) link
and let an ex-germ be one of his 80 rhythm guitarists
― da croupier, Friday, 10 October 2014 16:21 (ten years ago) link
most of these are superior to foo fighters
― strychnine, Friday, 10 October 2014 16:25 (ten years ago) link
logic for the bands i put on poll:
Pearl Jam: duh.Rage Against The Machine: political, critically and commercially hailed, as close to a rap-rock group as dave marsh could likely tolerateSoundgarden: just as america appreciated their sorta-classy grunge-to-hard-rock in 1994 i think the HOF could want a grunge-to-hard-rock act by 2019.Alice In Chains: "damn grunge is good for ratings, anybody else respectable out there...oooh and pictures of a dead guy on stage, yeah."Weezer: Getting Generation Y to watch will become increasingly important over the decadeStone Temple Pilots: probably the biggest stretch but commercially enduring and a semi-bone-throw to the woodstock III crowdThe Pixies (Doolittle is platinum now!): the indie "influence" band that has made the most arena hay out of being oneJane's Addiction: the dude invented lollapaloozaNo Doubt: ska AND female front-person tokenismBeck: a man who co-opted rap AND gordon lightfoot in the name of hipster coolBjork: Kate Bush is inThe Cure: SO FUCKING OVERDUE THE KINGS OF GOTH ARENA ROCK HOW CAN NINE INCH NAILS GET IN BEFORE THIS, BEATS MUSIC ILLUMINATI SHIT ASIDEDepeche Mode: if any batch of post-kraftwerkian synth dweebs can get in, it's these arena fillers.Oasis: They kept rock alive in the late 90s
― da croupier, Friday, 10 October 2014 16:33 (ten years ago) link
and by "kept rock alive" i mean they were an ad for beatles albums
― da croupier, Friday, 10 October 2014 16:37 (ten years ago) link
lol wait kate bush isn't in, oh well.
― da croupier, Friday, 10 October 2014 16:39 (ten years ago) link
Criteria include the influence and significance of the artists’ contributions to the development and perpetuation of rock and roll.
― lool at the herrlich (wins), Friday, 10 October 2014 16:39 (ten years ago) link
i think FF will prob get in at some point but probably not right away. Paul McCartney solo only got inducted after being eligible for several years and Wings never got in.
― Raccoon Newsy Wewsies (some dude), Friday, 10 October 2014 17:53 (ten years ago) link
well if he doesn't it won't be for lack of trying
also as the years go on, they're going to be hard up for groups with any degree of currency. it was a pretty rich market when paul was up for a nod.
― da croupier, Friday, 10 October 2014 17:59 (ten years ago) link
also c'mon paul mccartney and wings weren't going to get separate inductions
― da croupier, Friday, 10 October 2014 18:01 (ten years ago) link
were Smashing Pumpkins an oversight in this poll or fall into some other category? i feel like they're more likely than all but maybe 3 on the list
― Raccoon Newsy Wewsies (some dude), Friday, 10 October 2014 18:02 (ten years ago) link
xpost AW MAN forgot them too dammit
i'll say the foos might have had to wait a while in an alternate reality where Kurt Cobain/Plastic Love Band existed
― da croupier, Friday, 10 October 2014 18:03 (ten years ago) link
corgan's such a dillpickle i'd be more inclined to say "all but 3" will get in before them (neither yes nor the cure are in) but pumpkins definitely belong on the list
― da croupier, Friday, 10 October 2014 18:05 (ten years ago) link
i mean who in the industry is like "you know who needs more respect, billy corgan" aside from billy corgan
― da croupier, Friday, 10 October 2014 18:06 (ten years ago) link
it's gotta be fuckin Weezer
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Friday, 10 October 2014 18:25 (ten years ago) link
Bjork is the only person listed I want to see inducted (incl. FF).
― Eric H., Friday, 10 October 2014 18:45 (ten years ago) link
Billy Corgan could definitely have a great Mike Love moment at the podium
― Raccoon Newsy Wewsies (some dude), Friday, 10 October 2014 18:47 (ten years ago) link
Bjork: Kate Bush is in
Time for another debate about PJ Harvey's odds.
― jaymc, Friday, 10 October 2014 18:48 (ten years ago) link
Weezer, christ
― example (crüt), Friday, 10 October 2014 18:53 (ten years ago) link
the only purpose of the rock and roll hall of fame was to troll kiss fans and it doesn't even serve that purpose anymore, so why would anyone let themselves get infuriated by someone getting in
― iatee, Friday, 10 October 2014 18:55 (ten years ago) link
see above where i suggested one not let verb choice disrupt their zen
voting "da croupier, you putz" not just out of shame for forgetting radiohead and the pumpkins but also because, while radiohead predates weezer in terms of possible induction, and weezer's critical stature wasn't solidified until the '00s, it stems up from albums circa 94-96, where radiohead's mostly stems from albums circa 95-00. seeing thom york on stage would force me to acknowledge that the my college years are now classic rock rather than my high school years. so they'd offend me most.
― da croupier, Friday, 10 October 2014 18:57 (ten years ago) link
Foo fighters are worse than all the poll options
― brimstead, Friday, 10 October 2014 23:47 (ten years ago) link
This is clearly No Doubt. Are there any ska bands in the RnRHOF? It would be like, say, Fatboy Slim getting elected before Chic. Wait, that'll probably happen!
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Saturday, 11 October 2014 12:24 (ten years ago) link
Tori Amos has way more chance than Björk, imo: multiple platinum records, domestic, always-been-on-a-major, high-grossing tours, etc. The only infuriating thing for me is seeing that DM and Cure are not yet HOF'd that is strange
― fgti, Saturday, 11 October 2014 13:01 (ten years ago) link
Yeah I guess I see tori as having less cultural recognition or critical stature, despite selling more in the early 90s and being more prolific. But since all the early alt ladies are playing to the converted and not guesting on singing competition shows or played on 90s nostalgia radio much, its hard to guess where the hall will go when they decide they need to acknowledge some.
― da croupier, Saturday, 11 October 2014 15:17 (ten years ago) link
I mean there's always Hole
― da croupier, Saturday, 11 October 2014 15:18 (ten years ago) link
dgaf. none of these would infuriate me bc the rnrhof is meaningless.
― billstevejim, Saturday, 11 October 2014 15:25 (ten years ago) link
i really should have added an "i am above such concerns, despite being a music-nerd board regular, and want you to know that" option
― da croupier, Saturday, 11 October 2014 15:28 (ten years ago) link
I dislike Oasis but it's hard to deny their place in the world as a significant rock band
I like them and i do deny it. Boy, the UK is a funny place.
You hate rock 'n' roll, big surprise.
― this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 11 October 2014 15:47 (ten years ago) link
it's not Eric's Hall of Shake Your Ass Music
― this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 11 October 2014 15:48 (ten years ago) link
Problem #1.
― Eric H., Saturday, 11 October 2014 16:33 (ten years ago) link
i mean, i know how to fix the Pro Football HOF too -- by inducting Bonds and Clemens
― this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 11 October 2014 20:53 (ten years ago) link
i guess maybe i'm in the wrong thread but how great would it be to see Pavement in the rnrhof
― alpine static, Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:55 (ten years ago) link
also the answer to this poll is clearly RATM, then Alice in Chains
― alpine static, Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:56 (ten years ago) link
foo fighters would still maybe be worse than all but STP.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Friday, October 10, 2014 6:37 AM (Yesterday)
i agree with this
― dyl, Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:27 (ten years ago) link
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This is otm. I'm hoping they are inducted in like 2039, in the same way the hall has inducted older blues and doo-wop groups during the past 10 years. It'd be worth it to see a bunch of guys in their 70s plow through "Cut Your Hair."
― intheblanks, Sunday, 12 October 2014 05:04 (ten years ago) link
foo fighters are worse than every band on the list
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Sunday, 12 October 2014 09:05 (ten years ago) link
jane's addiction and rage against the machine are the only bands on here I don't like and of the two it's hard to say which is more annoying.
Stone Temple Pilots rule, open your minds.
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 12 October 2014 09:16 (ten years ago) link
I guess now that I think about it there's only one no doubt song I like.
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 12 October 2014 09:17 (ten years ago) link
Bjork, I mean if they don't have Kate Bush in there already then the hell, people.
I'd rather have Weezer and Pavement actually get in the Hall of Fame, but suspect it's never going to happen.
― agincourtgirl, Sunday, 12 October 2014 21:09 (ten years ago) link
Keep reading "FF" as Final Fantasy. I prefer my alternate reality.
― emil.y, Sunday, 12 October 2014 21:24 (ten years ago) link
oasis infuriates me. i like no doubt!
― syro gyra (get bent), Sunday, 12 October 2014 22:47 (ten years ago) link
but yeah, fuck the foo fighters and dave grohl's dadrock self-importance.
― syro gyra (get bent), Sunday, 12 October 2014 22:48 (ten years ago) link
Pretty much like every poll option more than the FFs as well, even the ones I don't like as a band but have to cherry pick songs from, such as Oasis. Only thing I liked from Dave G in recent decades is his work with QOTSA.
― Bobby Ono Bland (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 12 October 2014 23:15 (ten years ago) link
It'd be worth it to see a bunch of guys in their 70s plow through "Cut Your Hair."
Screw that, they'd play "Serpentine Pad" or "Yr Killing Me" or "Unfair" because they rule
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 12 October 2014 23:19 (ten years ago) link
No Doubt is hella good you guys.
― how's life, Sunday, 12 October 2014 23:37 (ten years ago) link
Plenty of rock bands who blew up in the 00s, but I guess the thing is that it's rare now that bands cut their teeth in relative obscurity for a few years/albums and then get their big break, but instead are picked up in the pre-demo stage, matched with the producer-du-jour and are marketed with full major label force for their debut. It's a new MO for sure but I don't really see that as a "collapse of the industry".
― Siegbran, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:23 (ten years ago) link
But I guess Coldplay and Muse are the quintessential "started in the 90s blew up in the 00s" bands.
― Siegbran, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:26 (ten years ago) link
Coldplay's first album was released in 2000, they only JUST count.
Oasis are probably the worst here other than maybe Stone Temple Pilots which is just so unlikely as to not be worth the vote, so I went for Weezer because seriously.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:29 (ten years ago) link
no doubt would be baffling and prob impossible
― Ass Tchotchke! (jjjusten), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 23:38 (ten years ago) link
fyi muse has yet to even go platinum in the us, so if they're the quintessential band that "blew up" in the 00s that kind of proves my point that few did
― da croupier, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 23:48 (ten years ago) link
and if you don't believe there's been a "collapse of the industry" google "music industry collapse"
― da croupier, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 23:52 (ten years ago) link
Voted Oasis as the band here I hate the most.
Weezer would be especially objectionable, but I still like their first album, so y'know...
― ed.b, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 23:54 (ten years ago) link
Not in the sense that the industry makes less money (that's obvious), but in the sense that they can't launch bands into superstardom anymore. Even if fans are stealing rather than buying their albums these days, bands like Muse, Foo Fighters, Kings Of Leon, Coldplay etc are superstars to their generation in the same sense that Pink Floyd or Led Zeppelin were - they sell out the same arenas etc.
― Siegbran, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 23:59 (ten years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Thursday, 30 October 2014 00:01 (ten years ago) link
top 2 otm
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 30 October 2014 00:01 (ten years ago) link
awww i like that nobody hates the cure
― da croupier, Thursday, 30 October 2014 00:03 (ten years ago) link
Oh plenty hate the Cure but not as much as these other bozos.
― everything, Thursday, 30 October 2014 00:08 (ten years ago) link
weezer twice as infuriating as oasis? what the fuck? what has oasis done that's even close to the green album?
― how's life, Thursday, 30 October 2014 00:08 (ten years ago) link
the ... green album?
― jaymc, Thursday, 30 October 2014 05:00 (ten years ago) link
bump bump bump
― da croupier, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 17:57 (three years ago) link
Impressed by their restraint in waiting until 2021
― da croupier, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 17:58 (three years ago) link
worst hall ever
― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 17:59 (three years ago) link
beaten by cure, depeche mode, and pearl jam. 7 infuriated ilxors by my count.
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 18:06 (three years ago) link
― da croupier, Wednesday, May 12, 2021 12:57 PM (forty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
damn b2k is almost rrhof eligible
― the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 18:39 (three years ago) link
Beck, Bjork & Addiction, my favourite supergroup. (Dumb old-guy joke.)
― clemenza, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 18:42 (three years ago) link
― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Business_Hall_of_Fame
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 18:43 (three years ago) link
it's not Eric's Hall of Shake Your Ass Music― this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Saturday, October 11, 2014 10:48 AM (six years ago)
I still say it should be.
― i carry the torch for disco inauthenticity (Eric H.), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 18:53 (three years ago) link
Besides the three that are already in, the only acts to get nominated were RATM, Soundgarden and Jane's Addiction.
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 13 May 2021 14:59 (three years ago) link
i think both rage and soundgarden have a pretty good chance of eventually getting in.
tom morello is not quite on the dave grohl level of "rock ambassador" but he's close. and people seem to miss chris cornell.
― the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 May 2021 15:19 (three years ago) link