Defiantly, I by no means know much beyond the basics, but all it takes is a person who can slowing introduce the components of a raga and anyone should be able to understand. They say most beginners start out with the raga called yaman, it's a good introductory raga. IE Jack Rose's "Yaman Blues"
This English guy here that I found on youtube is really good at communicating the intentions of playing raga yaman for guitar; clear and subdued.www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUBvPtCSMI0
― Neal Cassady, Saturday, 10 January 2015 06:02 (nine years ago) link
Promo vid for Seasonal Hire is sounding hot, I can't wait for this.
― Neal Cassady, Saturday, 10 January 2015 07:28 (nine years ago) link
JAMES BLACKSHAW: Summoning Suns CD (from Forced Exposure newsletter)IMPORTANT RECORDS (United States) / IMPREC 407CDrelease date: 2/17/2015https://soundcloud.com/jamesblackshaw/confetti
― dow
Even though the press release warns us about the changes I really didn't expect this to sound like that. Tbh I'm not 100% ruling out the possibility that I'm listening to someone else's album.
― Dinsdale, Saturday, 10 January 2015 12:44 (nine years ago) link
yah i don't know how to feel about that
one good thing about this type of music (this thread's type of music) is man, writing lyrics is tough, or writing good lyrics is tough
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 10 January 2015 15:20 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, writing lyrics is definitely not in the cards for everyone. Gunn pretty impressive in how well he incorporated them.
― grandavis, Saturday, 10 January 2015 19:06 (nine years ago) link
Show last night was great. Gotta say the highlight for me was Nathan Bowles, his stuff from the new record all translated incredibly well live (much of which I had heard him nail before) and the final track on the record was so transportive I started grinning goofily at the majesty of it. Primo stuff. The song Tom Carter joins in with on the record was augmented by Elisa live, which was very cool. I imagne as the tour goes on that song will continue to expand and get pretty righteous.
Elisa was really good, but this was the first show of the tour and I think she is still figuring out how to inhabit the songs live a bit. Nathan played drums on pretty much all of them, but the songs themselves were pretty straight, not much of the usual Elisa/Magik Markers style guitar throwdowns, but nice to hear the songs work as songs. I imagine her sets will open up a bit down the line as well, as they are touring together for 3 weeks. Would definitely like to see where they end up by the end of the tour.
Forsyth and band were really good, started off super hot then maintained a pretty good energy throughout. "Ballad of Free Hollow" and "Intensity Ghost" both highlights, but the "Calvary Cross" cover probably was my favorite moment. The new guitarist fit right in and played some cool stuff (definitely more varied rhythm work, taking the jams in some new territories), but for some reason I still miss the Paul touch, he and Chris had really complimentary styles. Nick was definitely a good foil though, I am sure they are gonna be a good tandem too. The rhythm section was super good throughout, really is a pleasure seeing them play. Peter Kerlin especially played some really amazing passages, might be my favorite part of the band.
All of these sets were recorded, but not sure when I'll get em or how well the recordings will come out. We'll see.
― grandavis, Saturday, 10 January 2015 19:17 (nine years ago) link
thx for the report! dug hearing bowles and ambrogio play together on the radio together, an interesting combo for sure. and yeah as you know, i hope a tape surfaces....more 2015 steve gunn news -- a split LP on three lobed w/ kurt vilehttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/B62P2xqCYAA-OgH.jpg
― tylerw, Sunday, 11 January 2015 01:06 (nine years ago) link
me & global's show w/paul metzger is tonight! pretty excited, have practiced to the all-important point of being totally sick of all my songs
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 January 2015 16:38 (nine years ago) link
Hah, good luck man! Wish I could make that.
― grandavis, Monday, 12 January 2015 16:48 (nine years ago) link
another guy from minneapolis, sounds like he's been around, opened for peter lang, kottke apparently had him open a whole tour...phil heywood
real pretty stuff on the kottke end of the spectrum, love the melodies on this
....www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsTvw7CkoRs....
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 January 2015 20:43 (nine years ago) link
global and i had our show with paul metzger last night, super fun night, global had made some nice fliers and hung them up (btw one person i know was there because of that flier just so you know global they were worth it)
but yeah really good crowd, basement lounge of the turf club was really full. i felt like i played a pretty good set, did a couple new ones that went well, global was great...but maaaaan metzger really floored me, the crowd was dead silent just rapt at attention....i capture a bit of it with my phone, not the best quality and i reached my file limit right before it got super great, this is a more mellow part of the set (he played about 45 minutes straight no breaks) - the percussive part he starts at about the 4 minute mark is really fantastic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ0DEKTKo0s
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 16:35 (nine years ago) link
haha ok honestly this embed thing i put those [url] tags in...
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 16:36 (nine years ago) link
metzger is incredible, three improvisations on modified banjo is one of my favorite records in this type of music
― marcos, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 16:37 (nine years ago) link
Last night he just blew me away I would love to have a good recording of it
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 16:50 (nine years ago) link
he was insane, my favorite was the microtonal shit he was doing in tandem with the bow, coaxing out all kinds of harmonic frequencies up and down the neck. so good. probably the best set i've seen him do
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 16:53 (nine years ago) link
May not be totally appropriate for this thread, but since W Tyler produced it and it's out on PoB, thought I'd mention that the Jake Xerxes Fussell album is really strong. Been listening to that one on repeat. Great guitar playing, natch, but more blues-derived than anything mentioned here lately.
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 16:56 (nine years ago) link
i see he's on paradise of bachelors which that label is pretty much gold in terms of this thread, had not heard of him, thanks
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 17:02 (nine years ago) link
gotta check out metzger -- where should I start? and yeah digging that xerxes fussell record. feels like a grower.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 17:07 (nine years ago) link
q: when you guys perform, i gather that you have songs and practice. when you get up there, what does it feel like when you start playing? do you get to a point where you feel you're in a/the zone or are you fully conscious of your movements? other?
global and ums -- you're both relatively new at this iirc, and i am curious about the experience for personal and professional reasons. if you don't want to post for privacy or crap up the thread, pm is a-ok. any responses (esp from beginners) appreciated. it's for work lol!
― vigetable (La Lechera), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 17:12 (nine years ago) link
i'm generally pretty nervous performing, i guess sometimes i feel like i'm playing better than others, but not really "in the zone" or unselfconscious sadly
i used to feel more in the zone playing bass in a band though, more people onstage with you and the loudness and drums cover up a lot of sins, doing straight acoustic fingerpicking is pretty high on the list of live music where fuckups are totally glaring
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 19:50 (nine years ago) link
but overall i do enjoy it and i feel like the process of practicing and then performing in front of a crowd no matter how small is worth weeks or months of practice at home IMO
gotta check out metzger -- where should I start?
i'd start with three improvisations (2005) and go to deliverance (2007)
― marcos, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 19:54 (nine years ago) link
also in a way, actually searching youtube for metzger, you can find some decent filming and sound quality concerts from europe and stuff, but he's kind of amazing to watch as well as listen to and i honestly didn't get in to him nearly as much before i saw him live
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 20:11 (nine years ago) link
thanks! interesting variations in the answers i'm getting too!
― groundless round (La Lechera), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 20:13 (nine years ago) link
just posted a new recording. I hope to get serious about recording an album this year and so i bought a new recording set up.
***jimmywine avert your eyes***
this is the bundle I bought from B&H Photo, it's got pretty much everything you need for $259 -- mic, stand, Focusrite USB mic interface, DAW, XLR cable.http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=869051&gclid=CjwKEAiAxNilBRD88r2azcqB2zsSJABy2B96YTyYG44sxmgJZ_5nOMYMwwGgMIiMS3WQLxHwvWM2-hoCYOvw_wcB&is=REG&Q=&A=details
****gear talk over*****
but anyway this is a song I've always felt really good about it, it just flowed very easily when I was writing it, almost felt like it wrote itself and it's just a very simple melody that I like. I posted this in the old thread but I listened to that version and was a phone recording and I was playing it way too quickly and rushed feeling. This is slower and the sound quality is better, though I'm still working out the new equipment etc.
anyway as always any feedback welcome esp as this was more a recording test (this is probably my easiest song to play so it's good for doing as a recording test song when i'm figuring out mic placement, how all this software and hardware works, etc)
http://soundcloud.com/matthew-lee-helgeson/new-setup-test-compressed
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 15:47 (nine years ago) link
Sounding really good UMS, pacing nice and relaxed and recording is crystal clear. This kinda thing works really well for me, keep rolling em out like this and I am fully on board.
― grandavis, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 16:20 (nine years ago) link
yea pacing is wonderful and the sound is great!
― marcos, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 16:23 (nine years ago) link
yeah, very nice! getting that meditative danny paul grody vibe.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 16:46 (nine years ago) link
thanks y'all. i'm feeling like i can probably do something that's good enough quality recordingwise w/this new setup.
learning these programs is hard though, just getting my head around Reaper.
to bring it back to real shit & not me me me, this is that Jake Xerxes Furrell track jimmywine posted about upthread (w/william tyler apparently)
tyler has this been on aquarium drunkard's radar? seems up yr alley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8898tHKjeOo
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 17:46 (nine years ago) link
yeah! wasn't actually crazy about that particular song at first, but the album as a whole is growing on me.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 17:49 (nine years ago) link
Jake Xerxes Fussell is a great post-fahey name
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 17:49 (nine years ago) link
haha no kidding it sounds like a made up american primitive dude name in a christopher guest movie
couple gems from the Drag City soundcloud
Sir Richard Bishop - this is just fucking jaw-dropping IMO, so gorgeous and well played. Funny, for a guy who's art rock/avant garde cred is off the chain, I actually prefer Bishop in his more trad moments, this is some lovely spanish/middle eastern -- actually almost classical in parts - fingerstyle playing. forget how outstanding this guy is sometimes.
http://soundcloud.com/drag-city/sir-richard-bishop-frontier
Alasdair Roberts - been listening to some Jansch and Pentangle lately so this is right up my alley, such a beautiful recording, great fancy pants UK folk
http://soundcloud.com/drag-city/alasdair-roberts-artless-one
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 18:00 (nine years ago) link
I liked it UMS-personally I would like a little more room sound, but that's just personal taste.The other thing I thought was aren't Snark's the greatest?
― campreverb, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 18:01 (nine years ago) link
xp
fwiw the SRB 10" from 2014 (Road To Siam) was top ten on my ILX ballot, really great, too bad it was a vinyl run of 400.
psyched for the new album w/the new guitar
― some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 18:03 (nine years ago) link
― campreverb, Wednesday, January 14, 2015 12:01 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
cool thanks for the feedback, the "room" is my untreated basement so honestly if it's gonna be spacier sounding it will probably have to come with a little more reverb added
and yes, I feel like a sucker for all those years I didn't buy a Snark and used plug-in tuners
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 18:09 (nine years ago) link
love that SRB tune "frontier"
― marcos, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 18:10 (nine years ago) link
i also prefer bishop when he's doing classical guitar/acoustic stuff. all those acoustic-heavy albums are my favorite - fingering the devil, improvika, though i very much like WMGVB
― marcos, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 18:12 (nine years ago) link
That's a great tip on the bundle from B&H, UMS. It's sounding really great - clear and concise. Comforting when notes seem to fit in line perfectly, without excess either.
Really looking forward to the new Rick Bishop, I dig this kind of stuff much more too.
I've been checking out the back catalog of Mike Cooper's stuff and have been slightly floored on how understated his songwriting talent is, not to mention the guitar playing. There was a track called "House Of Knowledge" on Steve Gunn's first big full length, Boerum Palace. And I had always wondered how to trace that kind of tune back to it's previous incarnations. Seems that you could follow some of it's qualities back to Mike Cooper. Mike's second album, Do I Know You?, is in full on youtube. Digging the multi-dubbed slide playing + vocals on "Thinking Back":
youtu.be/N5O6TEcXS3A?t=11m10s
― Neal Cassady, Thursday, 15 January 2015 06:35 (nine years ago) link
re the Snark: I bought one a few years ago to try it out. The band I was in gave me hell for it at first when I brought it into the studio, saying it looked like a guitar with 'headgear' or a 'hearing aid,' etc, but one by one they started borrowing mine and now they all own Snarks of various colors.
I am glad there is no Snark bias here.
They are cheap and there are few better ways of tuning an acoustic in a loud room.
That said, they break easily (I'm on my third or fourth) and according to a musician friend of mine they aren't quite as accurate as, say, the Korg Pitchblack or even the classic TU-2.
See, you guys got me talking gear after all.
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Thursday, 15 January 2015 13:27 (nine years ago) link
Yeah mike Cooper is kind of unbelievable -- like that long track on trout steel "I've got mine"? Wow!
― tylerw, Thursday, 15 January 2015 14:50 (nine years ago) link
new pedal steel-y tune (w/ band) from chuck johnson. i like it... https://soundcloud.com/chuckj-1/everything_at_once
― tylerw, Thursday, 15 January 2015 18:20 (nine years ago) link
Just chiming in to say that I am a Snark proponent as well, works fine on an electric. Always hated pedal tuners, much happier having a goofy thing on my headstock over another pedal to carry around/plug into.
― grandavis, Thursday, 15 January 2015 19:34 (nine years ago) link
Xxxp jimmywine that's the spirit! We'll be chatting about vintage compressor modeling plugins before you know it
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 January 2015 03:54 (nine years ago) link
Ryley Walker live on Madison student radio right nowhttp://wsum.org/player/
― Dinsdale, Sunday, 18 January 2015 21:12 (nine years ago) link
mostly tuning his guitar
― Dinsdale, Sunday, 18 January 2015 21:25 (nine years ago) link
my stars...so controversial *fans face*
Ryley walker @Ryley_walker 6m6 minutes agoLeo kottke "Vaseline machine gun" is the limpest guitar song ever put to tape get real
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 January 2015 02:31 (nine years ago) link
so challopsythis new william tyler covers session is very nice if you haven't checked it yet: http://www.aquariumdrunkard.com/2015/01/20/the-lagniappe-sessions-william-tyler-covers-ry-cooder-blaze-foley-more/
― tylerw, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:58 (nine years ago) link
blaze foley!
yeah i need to stop following ryley on twitter i like his stuff a lot but he's starting to annoying me with his "ain't i a dickens" routine
just posted a new track, probably the last thing i post in a while because i need to do an album and buckle down, this represents hopefully a little better sound quality i'm getting with my new setup and plugins and stuff, trying to keep things simple
http://soundcloud.com/matthew-lee-helgeson/blues-for-d-boon-1
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 January 2015 16:15 (nine years ago) link
(the d. boon thing is just a private joke i had w/myself because i realized i liked the song better when it just went through its changes one time and then quit right away which always reminds me of a lot of how the minutemen used to write songs)
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 January 2015 16:16 (nine years ago) link
was perusing some the year-end lists on that thread and found something that really knocked me out David Pritchard - Among the Missing
he's definitely on the new age end of the spectrum but i don't think he ever falls into being too corny
lots of amazingly detailed interlocking parts, just waves of pattern, i find this to be amazingly gorgeous...i guess the closest comparisons on this thread might be people like Danny Paul Grody or Alexander Turnquist....apparently some of the pieces are performed by a guitar trio of him and 2 other dudes (see 'em chilling out by a waterfall!)
but yeah man i am super into this right now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhN7RHw3quw
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 January 2015 17:32 (nine years ago) link