RTJ2 works better as a whole piece than the first one, but first record def is more pure fun shit-talking rap
― indie fuxxor albums i have secretly spotified (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:14 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah my priorities exposed here
― young thug squarepants (imago), Thursday, January 29, 2015 12:15 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is the oddest sentiment abt this album, like from whineys piece
If there were a Grammy for Most Creative Ways to Say "We're the Best" ("We might be giants standing on little dandy shoulders/You punks is pussy, proverbial pansy panty-holders") these guys would win it, or take it by gunpoint.
this is not fun or confident or burning or shit talky, this is some try hard bs
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:34 (nine years ago) link
I don't know about the lyrics of Run the Jewels, but Killer Mike's debut has one of the best pro-women rap tunes by a male rapper that I've heard:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6kbXLuzOuw
(Not that he'd be the first rapper to have made both anti-sexist and blatantly sexist songs, see 2Pac for example.)
― Tuomas, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:34 (nine years ago) link
The opener of Sucker is a blast but despite the undeniably catchy hooks I still feel like charli's not quite there, a lot of these songs rely on a rush of energy but end up being kinda lumpen? I was expecting it to grow on me but it failed both the Drunk On The Night Bus pop test and the workout test. Feel like she has greatness in her but it's like her major pop star ambitions work in the opposite way. I do not understand stanning for her
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:35 (nine years ago) link
if there's any str8-up misogyny on this album I will be deflated - let this be your challenge― young thug squarepants
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:37 (nine years ago) link
Proper pop.Just realised war on drugs may not place after all
Might get off my chair.
― sock (strychnine), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:38 (nine years ago) link
War on Drugs is absolutely going to place.
― Simon H., Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:39 (nine years ago) link
The notion of nitpicking RTJ2 for sexism/misogyny is ridic in light of other stuff that's placed.
― Simon H., Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:40 (nine years ago) link
Nah, WoD is in. But only one of Perfume Genius, Sharon von Etten, or The Juan McLean made it. We've snubbed Perfume Genius in tracks.
― The inscrutable savantism of (Sanpaku), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:40 (nine years ago) link
xp Agreed. People's expectations for Charli XCX must be really low if they think Sucker delivers.
― Minaj moron (Re-Make/Re-Model), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:41 (nine years ago) link
Remember, it's being done in order to make fun of LJ
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:41 (nine years ago) link
It's fun but I kept thinking of the Sky Ferreira album - they have some of the same collaborators - and Sucker doesn't touch it.
― Minaj moron (Re-Make/Re-Model), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:42 (nine years ago) link
I would pull some examples of lyrics from YOB, Electric Wizard, Mastodon, Wo Fat, Truckfighters, etc., but lyrics sites are notoriously riddled with malware and mostly blocked at work.
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:42 (nine years ago) link
i kind of think of RTJ as the ZOMBIES BACON of rap. lines like "we tell monsters to suck our dicks" and the "run naked backwards through a field of dicks" would have blown my mind and cracked me the f up circa age 13. i don't hate the album though, i love the "dick in the mouth all day" song. and while some of the beats knock ridically i find the sorta edm style just makes me imagine a horizon of tan white college bros in tank tops at some festival
mr twin sister is my album of the year that's actually an album. gr80 its insane that u haven't heard it you would love it. the whole thing's great but it's all about the centerpieces 'in the house of yes' and 'out of the dark.' kind of rare to hear an indie-ish album made by studio-level skilled musicians and they really take to the next level. i think the criticism u could level at it is that its so easily decomposable into its influences. max said sade sugarcubes which is kinda ridiculously on point. but it's a novel influence mix imo, and they just utterly nail it. best album i wouldn't have bothered checking out if it weren't for the ilm thread
― flopson, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:43 (nine years ago) link
those words are problematic sure but that is goofy spitballing compared to the other shit we've seen
charli xcx has her moments I guess /Marina grumble
― young thug squarepants (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:43 (nine years ago) link
war on drugs get off my chairwar on drugsget off my chair
― how's life, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:43 (nine years ago) link
To be honest, I was smitten with "Nuclear Seasons" and to a lesser extent "Stay Away", and the move from gothpop to more mainstream teen fare hasn't caught me in its wake.
― The inscrutable savantism of (Sanpaku), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:43 (nine years ago) link
'sucker' was disappointing to me, her placing ahead of so many other much worthier contenders is weird. feel like she lost something in her rush to be a megastar and collab w/iggy or whatever.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:44 (nine years ago) link
sanpaku otm
There is no such thing as lyric-driven metal. (xps)
― Simon H., Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:44 (nine years ago) link
2nd half of Mr Twin Sister is WAAAAAY more engaging than 1st half, huh
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:44 (nine years ago) link
Um, Iron Maiden?
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:45 (nine years ago) link
Is that what people are principally listening for?
― Simon H., Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:46 (nine years ago) link
Xp yeah I get why people like Sucker, it's likeable and it does its job, but in terms of creating a captivating pop persona a la Sky, Charli's still kind of...jobbing industry songwriter who'll try on whatever role in a businesslike way, but what's at stake in her aesthetic decisions? It's like jessie j but with much cooler style. Idk I think I'm nitpicking cuz I expect more, if this was by some rando debutante I'd probably be pleased enough with it.
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:46 (nine years ago) link
i guess i will finally remember to listen to sucker
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:46 (nine years ago) link
― The inscrutable savantism of (Sanpaku)
Juan Maclean will definitely make it. Almost all of the album was nominated and voted for in the tracks list. People didn't have a lot to say about the album but people still loved it.
― Kitchen Person, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:47 (nine years ago) link
Good news, DJP, the first half of Mr. Twin Sister was older, pre-crash & MS diagnosis material. The material being hewn into album #3 promises to be more uptempo.
― The inscrutable savantism of (Sanpaku), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:48 (nine years ago) link
Also yeah True Romance felt much closer to greatness than Sucker albeit not quite there either
I never paid attention to the Rtj2 lyrics but these quoted are all hilariously terrible
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:48 (nine years ago) link
Charli's still kind of...jobbing industry songwriter who'll try on whatever role in a businesslike way, but what's at stake in her aesthetic decisions? I
weird to read you getting into biographical crit. If the songs themselves are wobbly and indeterminate that's legitimate criticism, but the songs create the persona imo. It makes sense to me that on a second album she would sound like the people for whom she's writing.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:49 (nine years ago) link
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Thursday, January 29, 2015 12:44 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
not at all surprised that you prefer the second half!
― flopson, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:50 (nine years ago) link
the point of RTJ2's lyrics is definitely for them to be read on a computer screen
― Simon H., Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:50 (nine years ago) link
The lyrics on Crown and Early are in no way hilariously terrible fwiw
― Minaj moron (Re-Make/Re-Model), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:50 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/iT5xzjf.jpg
11 THE JUAN MACLEAN In a Dream [710 points, 25 votes, 1 first place vote]
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:51 (nine years ago) link
kind of rare to hear an indie-ish album made by studio-level skilled musicians
oh flopson...
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:51 (nine years ago) link
Snubbed almost everywhere but here. ILX comes good.
― Minaj moron (Re-Make/Re-Model), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:52 (nine years ago) link
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Thursday, January 29, 2015 12:51 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
...what?
― flopson, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:53 (nine years ago) link
TJM are basically ILM: the band and I'm cool w/ it
― Simon H., Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:53 (nine years ago) link
This is my favorite TJM album, and I had no idea it would come so far into their career.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:53 (nine years ago) link
this is album is good but not _that_ amazing but the song "A Place Called Space" is a 10/10 bangin' moroder space disco all time classic
― flopson, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:54 (nine years ago) link
Yes! Love this Juan Maclean album. Every song is brilliant.
Just realised I've voted for eight of the top twelve albums.
― Kitchen Person, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:54 (nine years ago) link
NickB are you saying it's common for indie albums to be played by studio-level skilled musicians?
― flopson, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:55 (nine years ago) link
Less John, more Nancy - the solution was there all along.
― Minaj moron (Re-Make/Re-Model), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:55 (nine years ago) link
i wasn't crazy about this album but it's still good & got a place on my ballot
― gr8080, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:55 (nine years ago) link
love the twinkly 'i can't go for that' keyboards on 'running back to you'
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:56 (nine years ago) link
i like nancy whang but we tend to overrate her tbh
― flopson, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:56 (nine years ago) link
Tried to get into this record--love its sound--but the songs never seemed to stick. I was at the mall a while back and heard Nancy Whang's voice and thought, "Ooooh, have to remember what Juan Maclean song this is." Shazaamed it to find out it was from that Classixx record last year.
― Indexed, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:56 (nine years ago) link
Do we tho? xp
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:57 (nine years ago) link
think it was rev who called "running back to you" nu-jones girls, which is very otm
― gr8080, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:57 (nine years ago) link
i should listen to the jones girls in that case
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:58 (nine years ago) link
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, January 29, 2015 5:49 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i guess what i'm saying is that charli xcx's songs all create the outline of a persona - in a very route-one way - but they don't fill it in to make it captivating, whether with bio or with non-bio.
yay juan maclean. "a simple design" is my second favourite after "a place called space"; i have v little to say about it apart from it's thoroughly enjoyable start to finish and has a perfect sense of timing
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:58 (nine years ago) link
xp i think so. she's a good fit for the dfa sound/aesthetic but has pretty glaring weaknesses as a vocalist
― flopson, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:58 (nine years ago) link