ILM's Top 77 Albums of 2014

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*hi-5*

, Friday, 30 January 2015 18:28 (nine years ago) link

there's a lot of indie love on this forum, it just tends to not manifest on the poll rollout threads as strongly as pop / dance / r&b etc love. probably because 'indie' is so fractured and ill-defined that it doesn't really have the same type of rallying points

ciderpress, Friday, 30 January 2015 18:35 (nine years ago) link

imo its because indies know they are shameful

lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 18:36 (nine years ago) link

i certainly do

ciderpress, Friday, 30 January 2015 18:37 (nine years ago) link

lol no its because indies are ruthless appropriators of everything else

wizaerd (Lamp), Friday, 30 January 2015 18:37 (nine years ago) link

feel like were finally getting somewhere

lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 18:38 (nine years ago) link

enough shame to know they need to appropriate everything else, not enough shame to refrain from it

lex pretend, Friday, 30 January 2015 18:41 (nine years ago) link

I don't recognise P4k indie as worth giving a shit about, the rampant conservatism is anathema to anything definable as worthy in the sense if beind independent. Soundtracking a Harvester meal seems about right. Would not identify as indie, UK DIY definitely bcs a lot to be proud of. Indie rock is growing old and mostly very boring.

ineloquentwow (Craigo Boingo), Friday, 30 January 2015 18:41 (nine years ago) link

The bad records are bad because they make a horrible sound, not because of where they are in the supermarket

saer, Friday, 30 January 2015 18:42 (nine years ago) link

lol no its because indies musicians are ruthless appropriators of everything else

Darin, Friday, 30 January 2015 18:43 (nine years ago) link

kinda vibe ilms place in the vanguard of indie cultural appropriation tbh - making the pop country and adult r&b nabes safe for the p4ks of the world to plant their eoy lists in.

in de rawk (Lamp), Friday, 30 January 2015 18:44 (nine years ago) link

tru

lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 18:44 (nine years ago) link

btw i enjoyed the mr twin sister record its neat

ciderpress, Friday, 30 January 2015 18:46 (nine years ago) link

no one is innocent

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 January 2015 18:46 (nine years ago) link

musicians are ruthless appropriators of everything else

otm

example (crüt), Friday, 30 January 2015 18:48 (nine years ago) link

Lex pretend otm with his last two posts

The Ghost of (strychnine), Friday, 30 January 2015 19:04 (nine years ago) link

Would like to say that the AWVFTS record was a major code-crack for me. I feel like a lot of people on Erased Tapes have been on the comfortable side of the field, closer to the "not-as-good-as-actual-chamber-music" of fifteen-years-ago post-rock than something that is new and profound. But yeah they cracked the code, ATOMOS is an enormous watershed moment to my ears. All the discipline of Feldman but with a lovely elegance. Really melted my heart and I've spent my whole life smiling politely at that style of disguised easy listening music whither it's Sigur Ros or Tim Hecker

― sonny and sber (fgti), Friday, January 30, 2015 5:59 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Hey, great you warmed to this man! Remember your initial reservations,but you cracked it alright :)

a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Friday, 30 January 2015 19:16 (nine years ago) link

Lex pretend otm with his last two posts

― The Ghost of (strychnine), Friday, January 30, 2015 1:04 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

if lex is kid rock i guess yr joe c.

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 January 2015 19:24 (nine years ago) link

enough shame to know they need to appropriate everything else, not enough shame to refrain from it

― lex pretend, Friday, January 30, 2015 12:41 PM (56 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i thought you liked juan maclean

goole, Friday, 30 January 2015 19:38 (nine years ago) link

btw juan maclean used to be in this band called six finger satellite that seemingly opened for every touring band who came through boston when i was a youth, i def saw them over ten times and didnt really care ever

lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 19:41 (nine years ago) link

i like his dance music tho

lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 19:41 (nine years ago) link

not the new album so much

lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 19:42 (nine years ago) link

six finger satellite i guess at the height of grunge sent sup pop a fake grunge demo and got signed then just recorded their normal synthy music for release and sub pop never commented on the discrepancy

lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 19:43 (nine years ago) link

i'd heard that story yeah. never heard 6FS tho! they were post punk before that was cool, right?

goole, Friday, 30 January 2015 19:44 (nine years ago) link

post punk was very cool then idk they didnt seem out of place opening up for like jesus lizard

lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 19:45 (nine years ago) link

but i guess they were ahead of the curve as far as being into like synthesizers and general machiney music in that scene, same as like trans am

lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 19:46 (nine years ago) link

feel like juan might be a little overselling how progressive they were i mean

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0OBlrx6qQw

lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 19:47 (nine years ago) link

Rev I'm pretty sure I played this for you when you were over haha

― 龜, Friday, January 30, 2015 5:20 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Think what threw you off was that I mentioned the Sade comparison that gets thrown around and obviously everything that isn't Sade starts sounding a little bland as soon as you mention Sade

― 龜, Friday, January 30, 2015 5:50 AM Bookmark

I don't remember this at all! Just us playing a whole bunch of goon rap. I blame the whiskey.

aybaybayfan (The Reverend), Friday, 30 January 2015 19:49 (nine years ago) link

6FS ruled

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 January 2015 19:51 (nine years ago) link

feel like juan might be a little overselling how progressive they were i mean

idk that youtube sounds like the rockier end of DFA stuff already to me

aybaybayfan (The Reverend), Friday, 30 January 2015 19:54 (nine years ago) link

yeah theres def something going on there but it also doesnt sound that diff than like shellac

lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 19:56 (nine years ago) link

that electronic meets touch n go tuff guy thing wasn't nec uncommon though - trans am, girls vs. boys, etc were all in that zone

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 January 2015 19:57 (nine years ago) link

the whole edgy tuff guy aspect of that music is so hilarious in retospect

lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 19:58 (nine years ago) link

you wouldn't want to meet GVSB in a dark alley though. all those dark clothes, you might not see them and bump into them and injure yourself.

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Friday, 30 January 2015 19:59 (nine years ago) link

they might say something deeply cynical and disturbing to you about like society

lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:00 (nine years ago) link

look out, he's got guttural sloganeering + bass jams

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:01 (nine years ago) link

GVSB came up to mpls to record an album and they did a residency night for a while on wednesdays at this bar, it was super awesome they would play & have guests & dj and stuff, p cool

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:01 (nine years ago) link

i still f/w all that stuff though

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:02 (nine years ago) link

i cant really deal tho in theory some of it is still p cool

lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:03 (nine years ago) link

i'm actually a gvsb fan, though i checked out after freak*on*ica. which is probably not as terrible as its rep but still kinda terrible.

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:04 (nine years ago) link

i never listened to gvsb, i did jesus lizard, shellac, scratch acid, the band with the terrible name who had members of scratch acid and shellac

lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:06 (nine years ago) link

I've probably seen Shellac the most of any band that I wasn't friends with

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:08 (nine years ago) link

i saw them at least a few times tho jesus lizard more i think, not sure who i saw most of all, maybe the melvins

lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:10 (nine years ago) link

i love all those bands but never heard SFS. Remember Brainiac?

Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:11 (nine years ago) link

I saw the jesus lizard once,was pretty great that 90's amerindie was my fave music back then

Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:12 (nine years ago) link

what do we call this type of music

lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:12 (nine years ago) link

fyi melvins were nominated in this poll and got zero votes, rip melvins

gr8080, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:12 (nine years ago) link

Brainiac was great

Great band out of that scene that is awesome but no one outside of Minneapolis or Albini & Cory Rusk love is Arcwelder

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:13 (nine years ago) link

indie is more insidious now tho, secret indie histories revealed itt, sad

languagelessness (mattresslessness), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:14 (nine years ago) link


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