ILM's Top 77 Albums of 2014

*hi-5*

there's a lot of indie love on this forum, it just tends to not manifest on the poll rollout threads as strongly as pop / dance / r&b etc love. probably because 'indie' is so fractured and ill-defined that it doesn't really have the same type of rallying points

imo its because indies know they are shameful

i certainly do

lol no its because indies are ruthless appropriators of everything else

feel like were finally getting somewhere

http://bygonebureau.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/vote.jpg

enough shame to know they need to appropriate everything else, not enough shame to refrain from it

I don't recognise P4k indie as worth giving a shit about, the rampant conservatism is anathema to anything definable as worthy in the sense if beind independent. Soundtracking a Harvester meal seems about right. Would not identify as indie, UK DIY definitely bcs a lot to be proud of. Indie rock is growing old and mostly very boring.

The bad records are bad because they make a horrible sound, not because of where they are in the supermarket

lol no its because indies musicians are ruthless appropriators of everything else

kinda vibe ilms place in the vanguard of indie cultural appropriation tbh - making the pop country and adult r&b nabes safe for the p4ks of the world to plant their eoy lists in.

tru

btw i enjoyed the mr twin sister record its neat

no one is innocent

musicians are ruthless appropriators of everything else

otm

Lex pretend otm with his last two posts

Would like to say that the AWVFTS record was a major code-crack for me. I feel like a lot of people on Erased Tapes have been on the comfortable side of the field, closer to the "not-as-good-as-actual-chamber-music" of fifteen-years-ago post-rock than something that is new and profound. But yeah they cracked the code, ATOMOS is an enormous watershed moment to my ears. All the discipline of Feldman but with a lovely elegance. Really melted my heart and I've spent my whole life smiling politely at that style of disguised easy listening music whither it's Sigur Ros or Tim Hecker

― sonny and sber (fgti), Friday, January 30, 2015 5:59 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Hey, great you warmed to this man! Remember your initial reservations,but you cracked it alright :)

Lex pretend otm with his last two posts

― The Ghost of (strychnine), Friday, January 30, 2015 1:04 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

if lex is kid rock i guess yr joe c.

enough shame to know they need to appropriate everything else, not enough shame to refrain from it

― lex pretend, Friday, January 30, 2015 12:41 PM (56 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i thought you liked juan maclean

btw juan maclean used to be in this band called six finger satellite that seemingly opened for every touring band who came through boston when i was a youth, i def saw them over ten times and didnt really care ever

i like his dance music tho

not the new album so much

six finger satellite i guess at the height of grunge sent sup pop a fake grunge demo and got signed then just recorded their normal synthy music for release and sub pop never commented on the discrepancy

i'd heard that story yeah. never heard 6FS tho! they were post punk before that was cool, right?

post punk was very cool then idk they didnt seem out of place opening up for like jesus lizard

but i guess they were ahead of the curve as far as being into like synthesizers and general machiney music in that scene, same as like trans am

feel like juan might be a little overselling how progressive they were i mean

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0OBlrx6qQw

Rev I'm pretty sure I played this for you when you were over haha

― 龜, Friday, January 30, 2015 5:20 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Think what threw you off was that I mentioned the Sade comparison that gets thrown around and obviously everything that isn't Sade starts sounding a little bland as soon as you mention Sade

― 龜, Friday, January 30, 2015 5:50 AM Bookmark

I don't remember this at all! Just us playing a whole bunch of goon rap. I blame the whiskey.

6FS ruled

feel like juan might be a little overselling how progressive they were i mean

idk that youtube sounds like the rockier end of DFA stuff already to me

yeah theres def something going on there but it also doesnt sound that diff than like shellac

that electronic meets touch n go tuff guy thing wasn't nec uncommon though - trans am, girls vs. boys, etc were all in that zone

the whole edgy tuff guy aspect of that music is so hilarious in retospect

you wouldn't want to meet GVSB in a dark alley though. all those dark clothes, you might not see them and bump into them and injure yourself.

they might say something deeply cynical and disturbing to you about like society

look out, he's got guttural sloganeering + bass jams

GVSB came up to mpls to record an album and they did a residency night for a while on wednesdays at this bar, it was super awesome they would play & have guests & dj and stuff, p cool

i still f/w all that stuff though

i cant really deal tho in theory some of it is still p cool

i'm actually a gvsb fan, though i checked out after freak*on*ica. which is probably not as terrible as its rep but still kinda terrible.

i never listened to gvsb, i did jesus lizard, shellac, scratch acid, the band with the terrible name who had members of scratch acid and shellac

I've probably seen Shellac the most of any band that I wasn't friends with

i saw them at least a few times tho jesus lizard more i think, not sure who i saw most of all, maybe the melvins

i love all those bands but never heard SFS. Remember Brainiac?

I saw the jesus lizard once,was pretty great that 90's amerindie was my fave music back then

what do we call this type of music

fyi melvins were nominated in this poll and got zero votes, rip melvins

Brainiac was great

Great band out of that scene that is awesome but no one outside of Minneapolis or Albini & Cory Rusk love is Arcwelder

indie is more insidious now tho, secret indie histories revealed itt, sad