ILM's Top 77 Albums of 2014

indie is more insidious now tho, secret indie histories revealed itt, sad

xps "pigfucker" iirc

fyi melvins were nominated in this poll and got zero votes, rip melvins

― gr8080, Friday, January 30, 2015 3:12 PM (43 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

aw

does silkworm fit in here somehow?

Melvins are weird cuz the are partly this scene, partly Am Rep, and partly metal scene

xps "pigfucker" iirc

― brain floss mix (sleeve), Friday, January 30, 2015 3:14 PM (0 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

was thinking that tho cldnt be sure, i def never uttered that word or heard anyone say it tho maybe i read it in a magazine

Skwm were more trad & had some classic rock influences but are def core Albini posse members

yah I think FE coined it? xp

melvins kinda just in their own beautiful realm doing beautiful things

indie is more insidious now tho, secret indie histories revealed itt, sad

― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Friday, January 30, 2015 3:14 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

It's crazy now they are like the Grateful Dead, dudes will pay crazy amounts for limited vinyl or small shows, they were charging like $100 for this thing where Buzzo bartender at Tom Hazelmeyer's bar

haha wut

Yeah wasn't even a show just a hangout

brainiac is def the band i was thinking of listening to that 6fs youtube

were there special hugs?

xp

what do we call this type of music

― lag∞n, Friday, January 30, 2015 3:12 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh early red red meat is part of this scene too I think. I'm not sure what the topic is right now though.

remember being really proud i d'led this one brainiac album on napster

Yeah it wasn't really a sound so much as some aesthetic I know instantly but can't articulate... Like Slint was a part too & they are way different

just figured out that Toko Yasuda from the Brainiac spinoff band Enon is playing moog & guitar for St. Vincent

it's so great that t&g stuff is on spotify, i am jamming some brainiac rn

when i hear 'indie rock' i think of a lot of that stuff in addition to the pavement gbv matador mid 90s indie rock but i guess they really arent related at all

def strongly overlapping fanbases tho

indie rock and indie in general was a lot of things not an actual 'sound'. You forget that sometimes in todays climate of all things 'indie'.

xp
even if yes there was overlapping audiences at times. It was a far cry from 90s uk britpop or whatever you would label post millennium indie

yeah, that's why it strikes me as weird when people categorize Haim or whoever as being "indie'. It's as useful of a descriptor as "hipster".

iirc the label that was involved also influenced that definition ;)

im interested in the hipster/indie divide i lived in new york so long i didnt know there were still indies left but then i visited portland and it was full of em i was like wow

I said upthread somewhere that indie to me just describes a demographic

indies buy records, hipsters buy cassettes

there's plenty of indies in the bullshit college town i live in now but scant dear hipstros

sad

the greatest trick the devil ever played was teaching indies to be sexy (hipsters)

there's a class element to indie / hipster imo

ur a class element

i am it's true

it def requires less money to be indie than hipster

indie defensive hipster offensive

tru

just tryin out words

I'm very confused. I thought that hipsters could only be defined by what they're not.

no u can tell by how the pants are slim cut

sexy pants

major faction of non hipster indies in 2015 is like ppl who got into indie circa cute woodsy bearded lumbersexual picnic in a meadow animal-themed band names circa mid 00's but couldn't get down with the ensuing trends. my roommates bf is like that, all the music he listens to sounds like arcade fire mixd with kind of triumphant lion king soundtrack epic group vocals on the chorus, they play twee songs to each other on guitars in the living room and bake their own bread. glad i made it out of that aesthetic intact

indies just wear some like brown pants, theyre not sure where even got them

If you guys are going to start dissing wearing brown clothes, I'm gonna be mad.

class is a dumb way to talk about something so hairsplitting but plenty of poor hipsters on the grind, asking u for bumps, asking to get onto the guestlist. "indie" is more a college thing atp so it probably correlates more with fam income. also more of a white thing.

i have brown cords but i know *exactly* where i got them

hahaha I was waiting for you to reply to that. Quick work emil.y

Non-hipster indies are the worst imo. Like the woman I met who named her dog Wilco.

o god