no u can tell by how the pants are slim cut
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:40 (nine years ago) link
sexy pants
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:42 (nine years ago) link
major faction of non hipster indies in 2015 is like ppl who got into indie circa cute woodsy bearded lumbersexual picnic in a meadow animal-themed band names circa mid 00's but couldn't get down with the ensuing trends. my roommates bf is like that, all the music he listens to sounds like arcade fire mixd with kind of triumphant lion king soundtrack epic group vocals on the chorus, they play twee songs to each other on guitars in the living room and bake their own bread. glad i made it out of that aesthetic intact
― flopson, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:42 (nine years ago) link
indies just wear some like brown pants, theyre not sure where even got them
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:43 (nine years ago) link
If you guys are going to start dissing wearing brown clothes, I'm gonna be mad.
― emil.y, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:45 (nine years ago) link
class is a dumb way to talk about something so hairsplitting but plenty of poor hipsters on the grind, asking u for bumps, asking to get onto the guestlist. "indie" is more a college thing atp so it probably correlates more with fam income. also more of a white thing.
― flopson, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:46 (nine years ago) link
i have brown cords but i know *exactly* where i got them
hahaha I was waiting for you to reply to that. Quick work emil.y
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:46 (nine years ago) link
Non-hipster indies are the worst imo. Like the woman I met who named her dog Wilco.
― aybaybayfan (The Reverend), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:46 (nine years ago) link
o god
― flopson, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:47 (nine years ago) link
the non-hipster indies western us version i'm thinking of are over 40, worked in a record store or were in a industrial / neo folk / post punk band in the 90s, love the stooges and nick cave, opposed to hippies and prob. can now just be described as "conservative, eccentric"
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:47 (nine years ago) link
Music and cultural "taste" is backed up with correct arguments and facts, not "digging".
― Banaka™ (banaka), Thursday, 16 August 2012 01:09 (2 years ago) Permalink
― example (crüt), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:48 (nine years ago) link
working-class parents, may or may not be kinda racist, etc. xp
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:49 (nine years ago) link
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― flopson, Friday, January 30, 2015 3:42 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Is anyone else seeing this?
― Evan, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:49 (nine years ago) link
"indie" is more a college thing atp so it probably correlates more with fam income.
Naw, most of the non-hipster indie types I know are 25-45 well-off post-collegiates. That may be reflective of my own age, iirc you're a bit younger?
― aybaybayfan (The Reverend), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:49 (nine years ago) link
I find a lot of people ay they're into "80s indie " or "90s indie" they dont want anyone to think they like "pitchfork or nme music" (depending on whether they are US or UK based.Pretty sure the whole im into 80s indie was around in 1991 though.
Weirdly I see just as many people posting about being into 80s or 90s rap. That really is a thing ive seen watching the reverend arguing with those people on twitter.
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:50 (nine years ago) link
hm so much history how time moves along
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:52 (nine years ago) link
is emo still a thing with the teenagers?
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:53 (nine years ago) link
xp rev- i'm 23. i think we're in agreement though. by "a college thing" i meant something norms get into during college so well off post-collegiates fits that
matt i think we're talking about a different thing. or your example is just getting lil too specif and you're just describing one person you know irl lol. "may or may not be kinda racist" applies to all groups we are talking about evenly. hipsters def less racist than 10 years ago though, reading gawker/jez instead of vice
― flopson, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:53 (nine years ago) link
I'm into 80s and 90s rap, especially 90s rap tbrrwu.
― aybaybayfan (The Reverend), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:53 (nine years ago) link
im into music
― ciderpress, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:55 (nine years ago) link
a few people but indicative of a type i think.
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:55 (nine years ago) link
maybe more "tru kvlt alt" then "indie"
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:57 (nine years ago) link
90s are involved
alternative rock is back in 2015 baby...oh yahhhhh
― ciderpress, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:58 (nine years ago) link
OK word. I'm 28 and pretty much disconnected from the college crowd. I work with teenagers and DJ for and party with 21+ crowds on the reg, so I know what those sets like but college taste is p much a mystery to me at this point. Seems like they like middlebrow rappers and MGMT knockoffs a lot afaict.
― aybaybayfan (The Reverend), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:58 (nine years ago) link
and they stream legend by bob marley rather than have it onmp3/cd/lp ?
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Friday, 30 January 2015 21:00 (nine years ago) link
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Friday, January 30, 2015 3:50 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah I do this because in general indie rock stylistically started to shift away from my liking in about 96-97. Though I like plenty of newer artists too.
― Evan, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:01 (nine years ago) link
whos an example of a 'middlebrow rapper'?
― ciderpress, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:01 (nine years ago) link
Seems like they like middlebrow rappers and MGMT knockoffs a lot afaict.
― aybaybayfan (The Reverend), Friday, January 30, 2015 3:58 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is also what ppl liked 10-ish years ago when i graduated
― call all destroyer, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:02 (nine years ago) link
― flopson, Friday, January 30, 2015 3:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAWdc9haQcA
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 January 2015 21:02 (nine years ago) link
I started to turn on indie rock when postrock became a thing, but I began to antagonize indie rock and indie rock fans when Death Cab and Rilo Kiley and Sufjan and Oberst became the inescapable leaders. There's nothing I hate worse in music of any style than unchecked preciousness.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:03 (nine years ago) link
all i remember music-trend-wise from college was a lot of kanye and a bit of vampire weekend
― ciderpress, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:03 (nine years ago) link
this was 6-9 years ago tho
― ciderpress, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:04 (nine years ago) link
i know a handful of people who match each of the descriptions of "types" itt, but in general i'm not really into sorting living breathing human beings into genres and making sweeping ideological assumptions about people i don't know based on my anecdotal experiences. tho i've definitely done it before and still slip into it again occasionally. i guess this is part of the reason why i don't think i should be a pop music critic.
― example (crüt), Friday, 30 January 2015 21:05 (nine years ago) link
I loved post-rock and math-rock but it did end up becoming formulaic and with diminishing returns but what doesn't
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Friday, 30 January 2015 21:05 (nine years ago) link
i'm not really into sorting living breathing human beings into genres and making sweeping ideological assumptions about people i don't know based on my anecdotal experiences
― example (crüt), Friday, January 30, 2015 4:05 PM (25 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
one of my fav things to do tbh
― flopson, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:07 (nine years ago) link
don't be afraid of types it's ok everyone is still unique in miniscule amts
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Friday, 30 January 2015 21:08 (nine years ago) link
i dont like physically sort them
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:08 (nine years ago) link
i think it's a natural tendency for people & a sign of intelligent thought process! but it's stereotyping & therefore not really accurate/honest/fair to anyone
― example (crüt), Friday, 30 January 2015 21:09 (nine years ago) link
binders full of types
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 January 2015 21:09 (nine years ago) link
just to revel in the natural display of human diversity tho
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:10 (nine years ago) link
so many "likes" and "unlikes"
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Friday, 30 January 2015 21:11 (nine years ago) link
― aybaybayfan (The Reverend), Friday, January 30, 2015 3:58 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i meant "non-indie hipsters" as we were calling them tend to have gone to college whereas "hipsters" as i have known them includes more "loser" alt-lifestyle dbags. art school the exception obvs. but yeah the avg college student in 2015 listens to like stuff you named + black keys and mumf
― flopson, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:13 (nine years ago) link
― ciderpress, Friday, January 30, 2015 1:01 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
J. Cole
― aybaybayfan (The Reverend), Friday, 30 January 2015 21:15 (nine years ago) link
i like the idea that u can classify culture + subcultures and that people fit into them. i'm obsessed with the commonality of human experience lately, thinking about how everyone over estimates the uniqueness of their experience. it's kind of calming to know that we're to a large degree just acting out cultural archetypes and even the perception that we have 'free will' in something as simple as our tastes in music is misguided (that was one of my big epiphanies reading like nabisco & tim f posts as a teen). and like the role of media in all this. like thinking about how stuff i read when i was 12 or 13 years old that i can't even remember reading is now embedded in me, and in other people who read the same stuff at the same impressionable age, too. imo it's only a shitty thing to do if you keep yourself outside of it like some omniscient seeing-thru-your-bullshit snob. i'm as much a "type" as any of the people i'm sorting, its kind of cool & freeing to admit it
― flopson, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:23 (nine years ago) link
like obvs don't lose sight of the magic & uniqueness of everyday human experience. but also don't mistake one for the other?
― flopson, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:24 (nine years ago) link
otm
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Friday, 30 January 2015 21:25 (nine years ago) link
I don't got no type
― 龜, Friday, 30 January 2015 23:02 (nine years ago) link
Bad Brains is the only band that I like