a mix between The Stone Roses and Primal Scream with the swagger of Oasis

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http://mrstsk.tumblr.com/post/110679101203

This is quite good.

Mark G, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 14:22 (nine years ago) link

Imagine if Elvis Presley had been impersonating Scott Joplin. That’s what The Struts are doing with 1960s and 1970s cultural reference points. They’ve remembered them in such detail that they’ve forgotten them completely.

Mark G, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 14:23 (nine years ago) link

^ probably all make cock-awful music but i kind of like the vibe in those photos

let me be your fan taytay (NickB), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 14:26 (nine years ago) link

no i know the horrors didn't fit here i just read that they had been a band for ten years like kasabian and i was surprised. i guess they still feel kinda new-ish to me.

scott seward, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 14:37 (nine years ago) link

http://40.media.tumblr.com/233af41d2ec22d166a0123894be6889d/tumblr_njiohtzDdf1u833ueo5_400.jpg

Kinda wondering if this kind of band, although not the same exact species, are at least in the same genus, order or phylum? (Or if I'm unduly influenced by kneejerk dislike.)

Like, there's a category of "has read the NME way too fucking much for their own good" that overlaps with the Roses-Oasis-Scream species, but I suspect the Roses-Oasis-Scream species would find the current genus of NME acolytes far too... modern or fashion-y or middle class?

Branwell with an N, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 15:04 (nine years ago) link

So it's all that Scott Seward's fault then.

Utterly huggers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 15:12 (nine years ago) link

i think if i had any intention other than to document this slice of Real England at the beginning, what amused/amuses me was the friction between the hyper-conservative working class hero cosplay and the rhetoric of danger, transgression, last gang in town nonsense

agree that this was never about hierarchical visions of (ugh) cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI22vpZ5ztQ (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 10:45 (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so style, sure, but swagger, attitude...why always those flogged horse corpses?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI22vpZ5ztQ (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 10:46 (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That’s right guitar, I suppose we could get shot these days for saying that word

this quote plus a thousand bands disingenuously repeating it in every town in the UK basically

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI22vpZ5ztQ (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 10:49 (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think if i had any intention other than to document this slice of Real England at the beginning, what amused/amuses me was the friction between the hyper-conservative working class hero cosplay and the rhetoric of danger, transgression, last gang in town nonsense
I mean, yeah, this is what is interesting about the thread, and what continues to be interesting about it.

That whole thing of "Guitar, that's right, we said guitar, like you can't even SAY that word any more" has a definite smack of "but we can't even TALK about immigration any more" ~Real England~ to it.

Those flogged horses of 'swagger' and 'attitude' and 'cheeky' and of course that endless harping on 'Soul' from which any actual evidence of contemporary Black or African-American influence has been totally purged, because by 'Soul' they mean Paul Weller and Dexy's.

It's just a bizarre repositioning of reactionary conservatism as something dangerous or even rebellious. As you say.

Which is a shame, because I really quite love the haircuts and at least the more cavalier-mod-dandy end of the clothes. :-/

― Branwell with an N, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 11:12 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

these "actual words" only express something that had already been expressed 500x itt and that everybody here immediately understood without even having to click on the thread title, how much you enjoy the thread itself depends on your affinity for image threads and their discontents

Personally I like these things with minimal commentary, we're all adults & can make connections, a little ~interrogation~ can be healthy but kinda outside of this thread's well-defined & hilarious remit

k3ller of sh1p (wins), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 15:17 (nine years ago) link

ftr this thread was incredibly boring and depressing that it was the most popular ilx thread until k8 and nv started posting actual words in it

It was nv who started the blimmin' thread in the first place.

Utterly huggers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 15:18 (nine years ago) link

Guys, I made a passing reference to The Horrors, as the basis of this thread was about assuming what the bands sound like (or their ethos) based purely on their picture.

So, it was my fault if anything.

What *it* is, I dunno.

Mark G, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 15:18 (nine years ago) link

Wins, you might have a ghost of a point if e.g. NV and Stevie, who were commenting and interrogating and text-posting just as much as I ever was during the brief intermission, were ever attacked, called out and jumped on with the same frequency by the same 3 or 4 posters FOR THE SAME BEHAVIOUR.

This meta-shit is boring and disruptive. Far more boring and disruptive than NV, Stevie and I together having a brief and entirely polite conversation.

Branwell with an N, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 15:26 (nine years ago) link

point taken, I was talking about all of you fwiw (and quoted nv as well) but sorry if it added to the pile-on

I have a living breathing point tho

k3ller of sh1p (wins), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 15:30 (nine years ago) link

What I find odd is that on nv's original posts it shows a youtube link as his name, but when wins reposts it, it gets translated into "Is Vic there?" Department S.

Was Vaughan Tolouse a cool dude? Everyone used to say so.

Mark G, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 15:39 (nine years ago) link

i kind of like the vibe in those photos

― let me be your fan taytay (NickB), Wednesday, February 11, 2015 6:26 AM (1 hour ago)

me too. washed out, "haze of yesterday" filtering makes the peacock displays seem self-aware, kind of funny & endearing, like pages from a rock uncle's scrapbook. wth is with the scrunch/scowly face so common to these photos though?

http://www.fredperrysubculture.com/media/cache/featured/upload/suzukimain.jpg

"i am cold and have eaten a bad food"

contenderizer, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 15:44 (nine years ago) link

stoked 4 a member of one of these bands to start posting itt

A MOOC, what's a MOOC? (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 15:55 (nine years ago) link

"i am cold and have eaten a bad food"

this is the reality of England

there can be only (onimo), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 16:03 (nine years ago) link

Haha Onimo when I read that I thought "ooh that American using 'England' to mean 'Britain' will annoy our Scottish chums." Then it turned out to be you.

Tim, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 16:06 (nine years ago) link

user needs

AS A lazy pretend anthropologist I NEED a database w/ entries on every band in this thread, including geographical location, stated influences, age, well-structured inventories of the clothes they wear in publicity photos and keywords from interviews SO THAT I can stare at data visualisations that show eg Scotland vs England prevalence of the feather cut, age distribution for cagoule brands etc etc

woof, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 16:18 (nine years ago) link

I felt it was needed in the Real England context xp

there can be only (onimo), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 16:22 (nine years ago) link

I think for many young Scots the whole laddism thing meant wearing slightly different clothes to get drunk in.

there can be only (onimo), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 16:25 (nine years ago) link

I have a pretty bad fashion sense I think, but I do understand that this means I Need Not Apply to be a mod

k3ller of sh1p (wins), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 16:28 (nine years ago) link

"So it's all that Scott Seward's fault then."

i am more than happy to take all blame. i was enjoying the folksiness of the pictures. even mundane subcultures are kinda interesting to me. i mean, there is jam band culture here. and the similarities between jam band nation and mod nation would be that the new bands are just as inspired by the less than inspiring 4th wave of bands like oasis or kasabian (who were inspired by the jam and primal scream who were inspired by...) as they are the originators of the looks and sounds. which is why all the pictures look so faded and nondescript and generic. a copy of a copy of a copy... in the case of the jam bands the pictures just get more colorful and clown-like as you get bands who were inspired by phish and other latecomer drug doofuses.

scott seward, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 17:04 (nine years ago) link

I will, of course, rep a lil bit for some kasabian stuff.

local eire man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 17:04 (nine years ago) link

hope you die of pneumonia then

k3ller of sh1p (wins), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 17:05 (nine years ago) link

shit wrong login

k3ller of sh1p (wins), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 17:05 (nine years ago) link

lol cap'n save-a-haircut

anyway the best part of the thread has been the ridiculous press kit statements

mookieproof, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 17:06 (nine years ago) link

I hope danny rose plays every spurs game for the rest of your life then deems

Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 17:06 (nine years ago) link

this is vicious stuff, vicious.

local eire man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 17:07 (nine years ago) link

and always thrilling when the person who literally cannot make a sandwich pops up to call something boring

mookieproof, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 17:08 (nine years ago) link

wha happen

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 17:11 (nine years ago) link

to this perfectly enjoyable point-n-laff thread

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 17:12 (nine years ago) link

well now two guesses

local eire man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 17:12 (nine years ago) link

one should do

contenderizer, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 17:36 (nine years ago) link

i was enjoying the folksiness of the pictures. even mundane subcultures are kinda interesting to me.

i feel this

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 17:54 (nine years ago) link

darragh i quite like some kasabian songs too, let's start a band

woof, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 19:12 (nine years ago) link

i'll write your press release

Moyes Enthusiast (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 19:22 (nine years ago) link

how do you feel about "a mix between the stone roses and primal scream with the swagger of oasis" - just something off top of my head

Moyes Enthusiast (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 19:22 (nine years ago) link

don't forget to put your own modern unique spin on it

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 19:27 (nine years ago) link

"a mix between Acker Bilk and Lonnie Donegan with the swagger of Tommy Steele"

xelab, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 19:34 (nine years ago) link

tommy steele rocked really hard and he looked awesome so if you are starting one of these bands don't look to him for inspiration. acker bilk on the other hand....

scott seward, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 19:43 (nine years ago) link

lg you're hired.

woof, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 19:48 (nine years ago) link

put in something about how we're the antidote to all the manufactured shit that's in that charts now

woof, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 19:48 (nine years ago) link

actually call yourself 'ear drummers'

not that sort of birdwatcher (imago), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 19:51 (nine years ago) link

all-purpose band member quote for every occasion: "it's all a bit rubbish, innit?"

scott seward, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 19:52 (nine years ago) link

tommy steele rocked really hard and he looked awesome so if you are starting one of these bands don't look to him for inspiration. acker bilk on the other hand....

Steady there, Acker broke the US in a way Oasis, Blur, Stone Roses etc etc could only dream of.

Utterly huggers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 19:53 (nine years ago) link

put in something about how we're the antidote to all the manufactured shit that's in that charts now

Get Racoon Tanuki involved with this band ffs

Utterly huggers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 19:55 (nine years ago) link

There is a part of me that would love to dress up like a shit failed mod for the hilarity factor. Comb over the bald spot, try not to look like a crimewatch photo-fit and wear a completely ill fitting suit for the first time in my life, viola! instant ace face tragedy! Once an uncle of mine who was a survivor of Artane child abuse travelled to Dublin for a witness court appearance, symbolically dressed up as a catholic priest, with dog collar, robes et al.

xelab, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 20:09 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n6NqxBZP0Y

scott seward, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 20:12 (nine years ago) link

woof how're you fixed for practice's at the n17

local eire man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 22:12 (nine years ago) link


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