Speaking of Duck Baker, local jazz station used to play some of his takes on Monk--think there was a whole album---just now spotted this (if it's gone, it's a YouTube clip in which he demonstrates how to play Monk on guitar: a nine-minute workshop, but not too clinical)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF055gY1af0
― dow, Monday, 13 July 2015 18:20 (nine years ago) link
grossman is kinda nerdy guitar stuff but i like him ok
― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 13 July 2015 18:38 (nine years ago) link
i've just heard a couple things by him, but this one sounded very nice.
― tylerw, Monday, 13 July 2015 20:53 (nine years ago) link
xpost: well, his first release was an instructional lp... most entertaining grossman i've heard is a library lp he and a bunch of people did demonstrating different old-timey styles.
another good kicking mule lp to look out for: http://ghostcapital.org/peter-finger-bottleneck-guitar-solos-kicking-mule-km-116-1973/
― no lime tangier, Monday, 13 July 2015 20:57 (nine years ago) link
yeah! i like that album. kicking mule stuff i've heard is pleasingly low-key.
― tylerw, Monday, 13 July 2015 22:16 (nine years ago) link
https://igcdn-photos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t51.2885-15/1922247_1661948707359269_1149418051_n.jpgxylouris white was so good last night, everyone should go see them. seriously amazing.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 15:33 (nine years ago) link
Nice, and I wish! Glad you got to at least.
― grandavis, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 16:11 (nine years ago) link
Jim White is one of the greatest living drummers imoready to agree with this, just a stunning musician, pure inventiveness, natural feel, great hair.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 16:13 (nine years ago) link
Hah hah "great hair" otm. Not to be underrated if you can pull it off (which I unfortunately cannot).
― grandavis, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 16:23 (nine years ago) link
And yeah, pretty much any record with Jim White is a good record.
You going to Red Rocks tonight?
i am! should be fun. two wild nights in a row, though, i feel tired already.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 16:25 (nine years ago) link
Hah hah. I am sure you will have fun man, seems like a pretty ideal way to see the Gunn Band, and a damn fine way to spend an evening. Maybe Nels Cline will make it wild for the Wilco set too.
― grandavis, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 16:31 (nine years ago) link
tyler have you heard "you follow me" by nina nastasia & jim white?
― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 14 July 2015 17:18 (nine years ago) link
You guys are gonna have to school me on Duck Baker. I've never heard his name outside of those Stefan Grossman guitar videos, and a quick Googling shows lots of traditional Irish stuff (usually not my bag, unless I'm in Ireland). Where to start? The song I just heard - "Child Of My Heart" - is wonderful.
― Wimmels, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 20:55 (nine years ago) link
And now I'm listening to some stuff with Zorn and Derek Bailey and not feeling it so far (but I'm generally unmoved by both Bailey and Zorn)
― Wimmels, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 20:56 (nine years ago) link
i have heard that nastasia album but i should revisit... i'm new to baker, but the one i got is super solid! start there!
― tylerw, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 22:13 (nine years ago) link
My lady friend was in Peru for three weeks and I was missing her, so I got a bit tipsy one night and made this podcast. Thought it would be relevant to this topic:http://imgur.com/pnMTqJyhttp://austintayeshus.blogspot.com/2015/06/acoustic-mix-for-angel-in-peru.html
― austinato (Austin), Tuesday, 14 July 2015 23:25 (nine years ago) link
Sorry, that should be:http://i.imgur.com/pnMTqJy.pnghttp://austintayeshus.blogspot.com/2015/06/acoustic-mix-for-angel-in-peru.html
― austinato (Austin), Tuesday, 14 July 2015 23:27 (nine years ago) link
gunn at red rocks was sweet - they sounded really good in a big open space. almost dareisay zeppelin-esque at times? (musically, not vocally haha)
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 18:10 (nine years ago) link
I've been lurking on this thread because I CANNOT catch up to you guys, so I've been pretty quiet. Anyway, Glenn Jones playing my wedding this Saturday. He's been super nice. Him and his wife will be guests when he isn't playing- hoping we'll be able to chat and I'll try to get some footage of him playing. He said he has some new pieces he'll be playing for us!
― Evan, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 18:26 (nine years ago) link
oh man that is so cool... and congrats! being married is the best. see if glenn will break this one out www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu3V9mIP7kQ
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 18:28 (nine years ago) link
Oh cool Evan, have a great time! That should be great, hope you have a really wonderful day/night.
― grandavis, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 18:45 (nine years ago) link
There are some total pastoral-version Zeppelin moments in those recent Gunn band songs. Just kinda production/sound-wise with the guitars, but I hear it for sure. Would have loved to see that kinda thing at Red Rocks, though a small and intimate room where I am right up front ain't so bad either. Hope to do one or the other sometime soon.
― grandavis, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 18:48 (nine years ago) link
funny you mention gunn's vox because i noticed he has this phrasing thing he does ALL THE TIME where he ends a phrase kind of in the way dylan ends lines like "he not busy being born is busy DY-IN'" or "even the president of the united states must sometimes stand NA-KED" (like emphasizing the last 2 syllables of the line)
― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 18:57 (nine years ago) link
thanks guys! xposts
Yeah Death Kit Train is a good one for the processional I'd say, right?
― Evan, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 19:02 (nine years ago) link
pretty sure it was written for that express purpose
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 19:06 (nine years ago) link
and re: gunn's vocals, he really does seem to have come into his own in that area -- sounded super confident/powerful last night (without losing his low-key charm).
xpost Wimmels, you might also wanta check that Duck Baker video I posted here a couple days ago, where he's playing "Blue Monk."
― dow, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 19:38 (nine years ago) link
congrats evan, v jealous
realised I never got back to global re just intonation/unusual tunings. to get really commit you have to redo your fretboard and working in the already unpopular realm of modern composition that limits things a lot and I think there really are only a handful of guitarists playing this stuff, you're definitely in youtube videos with three-figure views territory. also this often seems to go hand in hand with theatrical vocals for reasons which remain unclear to me.
larry polansky has done some pretty interesting stuff, some of it super dry but this is a jaunty folksy one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yiZ8bzoSW4
and I really like this piece
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WuZ--ziRcE
this james tenney duo for two delicately out of tune guitars has some nice bits especially the gnarly final ten seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOP4Q6GEM48
if we're just talking wacky tunings there's some steffen basho junghans improv stuff with detuned guitars (not my favourite of his stuff but he has such a gorgeous touch he's always a pleasure to listen to) and while we're on the subject of more out there guitarists it would be remiss not to mention hans reichel who was amazingly inventive, had a very distinctive rich sound full of overtones, built loads of his own guitars (with strange features like frets right up to the bridge, guitars with fretboards either side of a bridge, harmonic capos) and was a genuine virtuoso in a way none of the guys we talk about here could come close to. one of my absolute favourite guitarists, in any top 3 I'd ever have to make, and horribly underrated; when he died there was pretty much a media silence it was so depressing
― ogmor, Saturday, 18 July 2015 22:05 (nine years ago) link
could have a whole thread of pics of guitars for non-standard playing but just a couple
http://www.matthewgrasso.com/images/image_14noteoctavejust_001.jpg
love those moveable frets
http://i.picresize.com/images/2015/07/18/1aBQd.jpg
one of hans reichel's
― ogmor, Saturday, 18 July 2015 22:14 (nine years ago) link
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/steven-universe/images/b/ba/Mind-blown.gif/revision/latest?cb=20150627025426
― austinato (Austin), Sunday, 19 July 2015 01:54 (nine years ago) link
haha, that gif otmdid anyone mention this ryley walker/bill mackay duo record coming out next month?http://thewhistler.bigcartel.com/product/bill-mackay-ryley-walker-land-of-plenty-lpsounds pretty great, all instrumental.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 14:29 (nine years ago) link
also got this new one from mark fosson in the mail yesterday -- very nice stuff, on par with his earlier material, i'd say, plus some excellent banjo stuff. https://markfosson.bandcamp.com/album/ky
― tylerw, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 14:53 (nine years ago) link
This Dave Evans tune "Stagefright" was posted by the Gunn Band dudes. Hadn't heard much about him before, but this is a pretty wild tune in re fingerpicking:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqTLkgImAdU&feature=youtu.be
― grandavis, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 15:08 (nine years ago) link
Damnit, the url tags do not work for youtubes. Forgot AGAIN.
Also, I would love to play one of those Hans Reichel or just intonation-modded guitars. So cool. Reichel's self built instruments are all cool, but those that are "guitarish" are of course most interesting to me. Cool as hell.
― grandavis, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 15:16 (nine years ago) link
yeah I admire the ingenuity with his daxophone stuff and it is a pretty amazing and unique thing, but it always seemed incredible to me that you could be one of the best guitarists on the planet and not that interested in playing guitar. his website is great also
― ogmor, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 15:22 (nine years ago) link
Hah hah, yeah, some people do not ride for their most obvious talents, they just go with what interests them most. Reichel I guess was one of those folks.
― grandavis, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 15:43 (nine years ago) link
we live in quite a world....in order of Ramadan, Jerry Hionis is giving away his EP of American Primitive covers of Genesis!
https://jerryhionis.bandcamp.com/
― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 21:20 (nine years ago) link
let's not pretend we didn't all know this would happen sooner or later
― tylerw, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 21:31 (nine years ago) link
I thought of doing a straight instrumental/acoustic cover of Drive Like Jehu's "Sinews". I even worked out parts of it hah hah. Good way to practice without the pressure of writing anything.
― grandavis, Thursday, 23 July 2015 13:49 (nine years ago) link
― tylerw, Wednesday, July 22, 2015 4:31 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
another muslim american primitive folk guitarist cashing in on the Genesis craze? yawn
― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 23 July 2015 14:00 (nine years ago) link
Hah hah.
― grandavis, Thursday, 23 July 2015 14:02 (nine years ago) link
I thought of doing a straight instrumental/acoustic cover of Drive Like Jehu's "Sinews".
― grandavis, Thursday, July 23, 2015 1:49 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
would buy
― Wimmels, Thursday, 23 July 2015 14:26 (nine years ago) link
yeah i was having a conversation with someone at the chuck johnson/metzger show that there's a not-so-secret connection between the nu-american primitive revival and 90s u.s. underground postpunk & post rock stuff
― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 23 July 2015 14:33 (nine years ago) link
^^ see also: David Grubbs
― sleeve, Thursday, 23 July 2015 14:38 (nine years ago) link
Hah hah, thanks Wimmels, I will keep that in mind. Maybe I will just cover the whole album (terrible idea btw), as I have the whole thing internalized and could probably do it without listening to it at all.
― grandavis, Thursday, 23 July 2015 14:48 (nine years ago) link
And yeah UMS/sleeve, totally. Chuck Johnson was in a band with Dave Brylawski (sp?) from Polvo and was a Carolina dude from that era. Lots of easy-to-spot crossover guys. Pajo the obvious one, and Grubbs maybe the biggest. Danny Paul Grody was a "post-rock" guy for lack of a better term, sure there are plenty of others.
― grandavis, Thursday, 23 July 2015 14:49 (nine years ago) link
Cul-de-Sac/Glenn Jones too
― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 23 July 2015 14:52 (nine years ago) link
Oh yeah, totally. Played Cul-de-Sac on my radio shows long before Glenn started putting out any of those solo records.
― grandavis, Thursday, 23 July 2015 14:54 (nine years ago) link