seems weird that the album version of "Take Me To the River" was any kind of hit, it's so leaden and sluggish
BASS LINE AS HOOK
In that old PBS Rock & Roll doc series, in the "Punk" episode Weymouth recounts a conversation she had with Bernie Worrell about why their version became the hit. He told her something to the effect that the groove they laid down made you want to move up on your lover.
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 18:39 (nine years ago) link
https://youtu.be/Dp-dwcyFmig?t=8m33s
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 18:45 (nine years ago) link
Can someone help me find those amazing fan remasters of the early albums that were online?
― kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 12 May 2016 17:44 (eight years ago) link
i remember reading about them here and there were youtube links and everything!
― kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 12 May 2016 18:05 (eight years ago) link
You mean those Downmix things? They do sound incredible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7okvbwIg9M
― Double Nickels on the Pecunidigm (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 12 May 2016 18:47 (eight years ago) link
omg you are the best thank you!!!
― kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 12 May 2016 19:55 (eight years ago) link
Here's where you can download all the downmixes -
http://www.sharoma.com/eclectic_ril.htm
― MaresNest, Thursday, 12 May 2016 20:39 (eight years ago) link
Many have different vocal takes and all sorts of antics
― MaresNest, Thursday, 12 May 2016 20:40 (eight years ago) link
While we're at it: Does anyone here have the og Byrne mixes of The B-52's "Mesopotamia"? Have been searching a while for those and most places that had them seem to have disappeared in The Great Blog Purge Of '12.
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 12 May 2016 21:07 (eight years ago) link
I do. I just sent you email.
― Double Nickels on the Pecunidigm (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 12 May 2016 21:33 (eight years ago) link
May I too? If it's no trouble?
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 May 2016 21:34 (eight years ago) link
You have mail!
― Double Nickels on the Pecunidigm (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 12 May 2016 21:38 (eight years ago) link
Thanks! Replied!
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 12 May 2016 21:45 (eight years ago) link
Holy crap, listening to "More Songs" and it's like hearing the album for the first time with fresh ears. I've heard the 5.1 mixes, but this is something better. How awesome.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 12 May 2016 22:12 (eight years ago) link
can i get that b52s?! corysklar AT gmail ??
― kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 12 May 2016 22:45 (eight years ago) link
Sent!
― Double Nickels on the Pecunidigm (Dan Peterson), Friday, 13 May 2016 13:55 (eight years ago) link
ookay, just one more? pretty pls mr peterson?
adamrsbeales at hotmail dot combover
― da vinci beaver testicles (contenderizer), Friday, 13 May 2016 14:07 (eight years ago) link
Sent. Why the band hasn't made this stuff generally available I'll never know, there's obviously a demand!
― Double Nickels on the Pecunidigm (Dan Peterson), Friday, 13 May 2016 14:21 (eight years ago) link
The Byrne mixes are great fun. Super skeletal and dubby. Thanks again!
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 13 May 2016 14:25 (eight years ago) link
Cluttering up the Heads thread with just a bit more B's, the other four songs that were to be part of the Byrne-produced album are:
Queen of Las Vegas (that outtake is now on the Nude on the Moon comp)Big BirdButterbean (above 2 both reworked for the Whammy! album; I've never seen/heard Byrne versions)Adios Desconocida (a ballad by Fred!) I think I have this somewhere.
― Double Nickels on the Pecunidigm (Dan Peterson), Friday, 13 May 2016 15:02 (eight years ago) link
Aha!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjHJcji686k
― Double Nickels on the Pecunidigm (Dan Peterson), Friday, 13 May 2016 15:05 (eight years ago) link
o shit this is so f'n tite thank you thx dp
― kurt schwitterz, Friday, 13 May 2016 16:24 (eight years ago) link
I have this: https://www.discogs.com/The-B-52s-Party-Mix-Mesopotamia/release/76869
but I guess these are remixes, different from Byrne's originals?
― Οὖτις, Friday, 13 May 2016 16:28 (eight years ago) link
There are three mixes, afaik. The US Warner Brothers is the standard mix, the UK Island label contains the Byrne mixes (only on the very first copies? I think the Island release was fixed to include the standard mix shortly after release.) WB tweaked the mix again for the twofer release; I've seen this referred to as a "rock" mix. I own both US releases, but I've never really done a compare and contrast.
― Double Nickels on the Pecunidigm (Dan Peterson), Friday, 13 May 2016 16:57 (eight years ago) link
hey after basking in the glory of those fold-down mixes for a while, I have realized that for some reason I am missing "Life During Wartime", guess it failed to extract? if anyone happens to have that a PM would be great, it bugs the completist in me to have a track missing esp on one of my fave albums.
― ro✧✧✧@il✧✧✧.c✧✧ (sleeve), Saturday, 23 July 2016 18:31 (eight years ago) link
DLing the downmix of Remain in Light; seems like perfect hot-day music.
― Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 23 July 2016 19:15 (eight years ago) link
yeah the downmixes are just a work of genius. the final minute or so of Seen And Not Seen where you hear Byrne scatting and mumbling stuff that is literally unheard in the final mix (i'm sure he says "Brian?.." at one point). does make the originals sound very flat by comparison.
― piscesx, Saturday, 23 July 2016 22:54 (eight years ago) link
I'm gonna go contrarian on this - the magic of Remain for me is the intricate melange of parts simmering away in a fugue. You can focus on and isolate an element while you listen, or you can lose yourself in the ocean. The downmixes sound like worktapes to me, where the mix is not bedded in and the rough edges are showing. Fascinating, but not fully realised and in no way superior to the released mixes.
― MatthewK, Sunday, 24 July 2016 12:45 (eight years ago) link
Did anyone watch the Documentary Now! parody of 'Stop Making Sense'? It was so lovingly done.
― Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Thursday, 29 December 2016 01:04 (seven years ago) link
While this thread is active, my uh version of the downmixes discussed above failed to properly extract "Life During Wartime" ( the regular album version), if anyone has this plz ILXmail me.
― sleeve, Thursday, 29 December 2016 02:42 (seven years ago) link
yeah that was good (the documentary now episode).
any more to the rumors that they were in rehearsals?
― akm, Thursday, 29 December 2016 03:34 (seven years ago) link
I'm probably going to get lynched for this but...
...*deep breath*...
...Dud.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Friday, 8 September 2017 19:32 (seven years ago) link
if you say so
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Friday, 8 September 2017 19:59 (seven years ago) link
They're no GENESIS...
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 8 September 2017 20:13 (seven years ago) link
so wrong Turrican, most of the time you are OTM. not even close on this one.
― Bee OK, Saturday, 9 September 2017 01:11 (seven years ago) link
I deeply love Remain in Light but not too jazzed about anything else.
i like todd edwards' remix of "burning down the house"!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M_BpfEOd9U
― brimstead, Saturday, 9 September 2017 01:14 (seven years ago) link
incredibly overrated but not dud. i love so many of his songs but i find david byrne to be really insufferable
― flappy bird, Saturday, 9 September 2017 01:19 (seven years ago) link
ha, let me just say - i love the talking heads. but for so many people i know, they're foundational. Remain in Light is the only record I like front to back.
oh yeah, I went to a screening of Stop Making Sense last month and the movie was missing most of the soundtrack. bass, vocals, drums, guitar. nothing else. they'd cut to the backup singers, keyboard players - nothing. we left once tina weymouth started singing genius of love, it was like watching a st. sanders shreds video. i was pissed at the time but now it's just funny. p sure i posted this already on ilx
― flappy bird, Saturday, 9 September 2017 01:22 (seven years ago) link
later talking heads is good too, fools.
― Shart Dressed Man (kurt schwitterz), Sunday, 10 September 2017 21:16 (seven years ago) link
wtf flappy explain...
when we left I asked the employees what happened (obviously wasn't their fault) - apparently it was an issue with the copy they got from the distributor. I'm not exactly sure how DCP works, but it wasn't just the movie, the theater's "Don't talk" ad that played when the lights went down had the same sound issues - muffled & missing layers. It was bizarre & disappointing but what are you gonna do. they gave us passes for a free movie & I used them to see It last night.
― flappy bird, Sunday, 10 September 2017 21:20 (seven years ago) link
Super classic c'mon
― yesca, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 14:31 (seven years ago) link
flappy bird - might have been a stereo issue? think they'd got their plugs in the wrong way round and the two channels were phase-cancelling
― Shat Parp (dog latin), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 14:55 (seven years ago) link
Yep almost definitely. I have a pair of earphones that do the same thing as flappy described, if I plug them in the wrong way
― Vinnie, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 15:25 (seven years ago) link
I just heard the live LP The Name of This Band is Talking Heads for the first time ever. Very different feel to my ears than their records, sloppy and immediate.
― Eazy, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 15:47 (seven years ago) link
I would have thought phase cancellation would occur more from faulty wiring than having any plugs the wrong way around, but it does seem like that's what's happened.
In stereo, if left is plugged into right and vice versa, all this does is reverse the stereo field, for phase cancellation to occur both stereo channels need to be played through the same channel (in mono) with one of the channels inverted.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 15:55 (seven years ago) link
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― Vinnie, Tuesday, September 12, 2017 11:25 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
hahaha awesome, i love that an 800 capacity theater had this problem
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 16:33 (seven years ago) link
I'd say either a plug wasn't inserted fully (sometimes if a headphone jack plug isn't inserted properly it has this exact effect) or it's some other wiring problem. But yeah, incredible that a cinema - particularly one showing a concert film - had this problem.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 17:32 (seven years ago) link
This, along with "Stop Making Sense", is my go-to Talking Heads. I rarely play the studio albums, in fact. Not too many bands work improves that dramatically on their live albums.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 17:58 (seven years ago) link
Likewise, with the exception of Remain In Light, which is impossible to improve upon
― doug watson, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 18:08 (seven years ago) link