ILX Gonna Shine in My Backdoor Someday (new post-Fahey folk for ppl posting in Takoma/Tompkins Square threads Pt II)

There are some total pastoral-version Zeppelin moments in those recent Gunn band songs. Just kinda production/sound-wise with the guitars, but I hear it for sure. Would have loved to see that kinda thing at Red Rocks, though a small and intimate room where I am right up front ain't so bad either. Hope to do one or the other sometime soon.

funny you mention gunn's vox because i noticed he has this phrasing thing he does ALL THE TIME where he ends a phrase kind of in the way dylan ends lines like "he not busy being born is busy DY-IN'" or "even the president of the united states must sometimes stand NA-KED" (like emphasizing the last 2 syllables of the line)

thanks guys! xposts

Yeah Death Kit Train is a good one for the processional I'd say, right?

pretty sure it was written for that express purpose

and re: gunn's vocals, he really does seem to have come into his own in that area -- sounded super confident/powerful last night (without losing his low-key charm).

xpost Wimmels, you might also wanta check that Duck Baker video I posted here a couple days ago, where he's playing "Blue Monk."

congrats evan, v jealous

realised I never got back to global re just intonation/unusual tunings. to get really commit you have to redo your fretboard and working in the already unpopular realm of modern composition that limits things a lot and I think there really are only a handful of guitarists playing this stuff, you're definitely in youtube videos with three-figure views territory. also this often seems to go hand in hand with theatrical vocals for reasons which remain unclear to me.

larry polansky has done some pretty interesting stuff, some of it super dry but this is a jaunty folksy one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yiZ8bzoSW4

and I really like this piece

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WuZ--ziRcE

this james tenney duo for two delicately out of tune guitars has some nice bits especially the gnarly final ten seconds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOP4Q6GEM48

if we're just talking wacky tunings there's some steffen basho junghans improv stuff with detuned guitars (not my favourite of his stuff but he has such a gorgeous touch he's always a pleasure to listen to) and while we're on the subject of more out there guitarists it would be remiss not to mention hans reichel who was amazingly inventive, had a very distinctive rich sound full of overtones, built loads of his own guitars (with strange features like frets right up to the bridge, guitars with fretboards either side of a bridge, harmonic capos) and was a genuine virtuoso in a way none of the guys we talk about here could come close to. one of my absolute favourite guitarists, in any top 3 I'd ever have to make, and horribly underrated; when he died there was pretty much a media silence it was so depressing

could have a whole thread of pics of guitars for non-standard playing but just a couple

http://www.matthewgrasso.com/images/image_14noteoctavejust_001.jpg

love those moveable frets

http://i.picresize.com/images/2015/07/18/1aBQd.jpg

one of hans reichel's

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/steven-universe/images/b/ba/Mind-blown.gif/revision/latest?cb=20150627025426

haha, that gif otm
did anyone mention this ryley walker/bill mackay duo record coming out next month?
http://thewhistler.bigcartel.com/product/bill-mackay-ryley-walker-land-of-plenty-lp
sounds pretty great, all instrumental.

also got this new one from mark fosson in the mail yesterday -- very nice stuff, on par with his earlier material, i'd say, plus some excellent banjo stuff.
https://markfosson.bandcamp.com/album/ky

This Dave Evans tune "Stagefright" was posted by the Gunn Band dudes. Hadn't heard much about him before, but this is a pretty wild tune in re fingerpicking:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqTLkgImAdU&feature=youtu.be

Damnit, the url tags do not work for youtubes. Forgot AGAIN.

Also, I would love to play one of those Hans Reichel or just intonation-modded guitars. So cool. Reichel's self built instruments are all cool, but those that are "guitarish" are of course most interesting to me. Cool as hell.

yeah I admire the ingenuity with his daxophone stuff and it is a pretty amazing and unique thing, but it always seemed incredible to me that you could be one of the best guitarists on the planet and not that interested in playing guitar. his website is great also

Hah hah, yeah, some people do not ride for their most obvious talents, they just go with what interests them most. Reichel I guess was one of those folks.

we live in quite a world....in order of Ramadan, Jerry Hionis is giving away his EP of American Primitive covers of Genesis!

https://jerryhionis.bandcamp.com/

let's not pretend we didn't all know this would happen sooner or later

I thought of doing a straight instrumental/acoustic cover of Drive Like Jehu's "Sinews". I even worked out parts of it hah hah. Good way to practice without the pressure of writing anything.

let's not pretend we didn't all know this would happen sooner or later

― tylerw, Wednesday, July 22, 2015 4:31 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

another muslim american primitive folk guitarist cashing in on the Genesis craze? yawn

Hah hah.

I thought of doing a straight instrumental/acoustic cover of Drive Like Jehu's "Sinews".

― grandavis, Thursday, July 23, 2015 1:49 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

would buy

yeah i was having a conversation with someone at the chuck johnson/metzger show that there's a not-so-secret connection between the nu-american primitive revival and 90s u.s. underground postpunk & post rock stuff

^^ see also: David Grubbs

Hah hah, thanks Wimmels, I will keep that in mind. Maybe I will just cover the whole album (terrible idea btw), as I have the whole thing internalized and could probably do it without listening to it at all.

And yeah UMS/sleeve, totally. Chuck Johnson was in a band with Dave Brylawski (sp?) from Polvo and was a Carolina dude from that era. Lots of easy-to-spot crossover guys. Pajo the obvious one, and Grubbs maybe the biggest. Danny Paul Grody was a "post-rock" guy for lack of a better term, sure there are plenty of others.

Cul-de-Sac/Glenn Jones too

Oh yeah, totally. Played Cul-de-Sac on my radio shows long before Glenn started putting out any of those solo records.

from Doug McCombs from Tortoise, et all interviewed Wm Tyler a few years ago:

I know what you mean, man. I feel like there are so many things that you can say or do with instrumental music, and there doesn't need to be another bad lyric on the earth.

I remember a very specific moment when I was about 19. I was working at this cafe that had open-mike nights on Fridays. In Nashville, that can be a pretty mixed bag. I remember one night somebody came in and just played a guitar piece—I think they were doing a Chet Atkins cover or something—and I just remember thinking, "Wow, that was so noninvasive, and actually I sort of enjoyed it. I wish more people did it." It was probably about the same time that I discovered Tortoise and all the music you guys were doing. Honestly, that was a huge revelation to me. I was like, "Oh wait, you can be a band and not have a singer, and there's nothing lost at all."

and there doesn't need to be another bad lyric on the earth.

feeling this sentiment

glenn jones was ahead of the curve. fahey made a big impression on that postpunk audience with his 'comeback' - the byron coley spin article, hanging out with sonic youth, no neck blues band - his stuff totally fit in with that scene. all his back cat was getting reissued on CD (+ his book), journalists were clearly listening to it; for a while nearly anything with fingerpicked guitar on it was described as "fahey-esque", even radiohead

yeah i think the first time i heard of fahey might have been thruston namechecking him somewhere, not sure if i actually heard him until years later

UMS-I seemed to recall listening to Fahey together in the dorm, I had the Rhino 2-cd set

yeah that rhino set was where i heard him first, i think, sometime in college. can't remember where i first saw his name though... maybe that coley spin article?

The Coley Spin article was definitely percolating in the abckground, though my curiosity was peaked when I found out that Dr Demento had written the liners and I had been a big Demento listener in my tweens/early teens

Also I'm sure I read Jim O'Rouke had mentioned Fahey around that same time

UMS-I seemed to recall listening to Fahey together in the dorm, I had the Rhino 2-cd set

― chr1sb3singer, Thursday, July 23, 2015 11:33 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

could have been you were more up on stuff than i was for sure

The more I listen to the latest Chuck Johnson album, the more I think it might be the instrumental guitar album to beat this year. That first piece is a stunner - I've heard it enough now that I'm beyond mere appreciation and I'm trying to figure out how he's doing some of that stuff. His slide playing on this is so uniquely melodic in a way I don't hear much these days. I also love that full minute towards the end of "Silver Teeth In The Sun" where he kinda just quits playing this rolling melody to listen to the strings ringing out, and then returns to the fast picking, as if he's saying "check out this resonance, dudes! Aren't acoustic guitars awesome?" And Marielle Jakobson's violin on "The Deer And The Snake" is just the sweetest subtle touch, but I'm a soft touch there because I love Date Palms, and this tune also reminds me, for obvious reasons, of Gastr Del Sol's cover of Fahey's "Dry Bones In The Valley," which, surely we can all agree, is clearly one of the most beautiful pieces of music ever recorded. Anyway, been playing this album a lot.

agree, I think Chuck is a guy that, I don't know, doesn't have a compelling narrative about him, compared to like William Tyler or Daniel Bachman or Riley Walker, he's older and been around but not necessarily the "keeper of the torch" like Glenn Jones or a famous eccentric like Sir Richard Bishop or Orcutt...his strengths are in a very understated mastery of his own style and not something that grabs you by the collar and says "listen to this!"....I think he's great

Yeah, I am excited to see Chuck on Thursday. Gonna grab the new record too (thanks for that write-up Wimmels, good run down).

"Inversion Layer" is an instant classic in that accessible, jaunt-y kind of way. At this point I sometimes enjoy tracks like that over the dark sounding ones. At least upon first listen.

Yeah man, that is a good tune. Gonna buy this record tonight, psyched!

If anyone is looking for some really nice, minimal acoustic guitar moves, I am completely enjoying this Jon Collin "Early Music" album.

Released on his own label, Wine Box Press, which has a really beautiful/cool aesthetic. But yeah, this is sounding super good to me today:

https://wineboxpress.bandcamp.com/album/jon-collin-early-music

Very sparse through most of it, with very nice phrasing/slide moves.

is it inspired by early music or ?

Hah hah, I think maybe it is just referring to it being early recordings, but who knows? There is not much info on the bandcamp page.

Sorry, didn't mean to imply that that was a funny question! Just was funny because there is almost no info at all for the album on the page. Could be intentionally vague?

i was just wondering if it sounded like early music musically or if it was clear that he was referring to his own early music
it's always confusing when people talk about early music

Yeah, I can see that. It doesn't sound particularly indebted to early music to me, but certainly that is not my specialty so perhaps there is some similarity I wouldn't pick up on.

Also, David Daniell has come up before, and I know folks through out some recommendations. I am really into this song "Housewarming" from the Three Lobed comp "Eight Trails, One Path":

https://threelobed.bandcamp.com/track/housewarming

Can someone point me to stuff of his that hits territory similar to this?

xp Been digging Jon Collin's stuff for a while now (though haven't heard the one linked above), his label is really pretty incredible, when you can manage to get copies of this stuff! His recent LP High Peak Selections was really good, some of it was like post-LMC kinda stuff iirc...