Tidal

Tidal or Prince?

Prince of Tidals mirit

I still use Tidal quite a bit. Apple Music is cluttered and noisy, google music is good for uploads but not curated at all. Tidal fits inbetween. It's where I go when I know what I want to listen to. I feel like a perv paying for three subscriptions though.

This playlist is decent: Searching For a Truer Sound: No Depression & Beyond

There's another one I can't find an online link to that's pretty decent called "Laurel Canyon Classics" - soft rock, singersongwriter, country rock

Best possible publicity for Tidal at this point:

http://pagesix.com/2015/08/28/tidal-faces-20m-lawsuit-over-drakes-apple-music-deal/?_ga=1.153910584.1414958259.1440893908

holy moly

paczkowski says no: http://www.buzzfeed.com/johnpaczkowski/apple-did-not-stop-tidal-from-streaming-drakes-set-at-lil-we

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dKSr32pkTM
i know he forgets that he owns tidal but why is this a rhapsody ad

Because it's from 2014 (or possibly earlier).

oh yeah? that's what i get for not watching it all the way thru. carry on.

two months apparently what it took to reset me to thinking this was about fiona apple

rhapsody commercial is from 2009.

in other news, my friend works at Tidal. I've been kind of ribbing her about it, and she was psyched to show me the interface and prove me wrong. she forces me to sign up for a 3 month trial. we finally pull it up, and it won't even play one song. error messages galore.

I know GhostTunes is Garth Brooks's pet digital retail product, but the fact there are no news results on Google that aren't a year old and his equally year-old album is still the big splash on the front page makes me think it didn't go over really well. lol

http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2015/08/whos-winning-the-new-streaming-wars.html

The music streaming wars have become a touchy subject as all the major players are trying to get a leg up in the battle. Apple Music, launched in June, hit out at reports in mid-August that users were giving up on the service before their three-month free trial had finished.
The study from MusicWatch had claimed that 48 percent of people had ditched the service, which Apple has wholeheartedly refuted.

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giving up the service *before* the free trial had finished..

in other news, my friend works at Tidal. I've been kind of ribbing her about it, and she was psyched to show me the interface and prove me wrong. she forces me to sign up for a 3 month trial. we finally pull it up, and it won't even play one song. error messages galore.

Don't leave us hanging, what was her reaction to that?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51169MpylNL.jpg

Ah balls, wrong thread. SORRY.

I was about to say, a cryptic reaction.

thought this was a really sharp piece on tidal/spotify/our brave new streaming future etc

http://www.stereogum.com/1848677/streaming-war-pigs-apple-tidal-spotify-the-year-in-music-services/franchises/2015-in-review/

Good read indeed - guy is a good writer, believe he also does the regular metal and pop columns

so many true statements in that article it's like bizarro lefsetz

did anyone else get the thing where they were incorrectly billed by Tidal and then given a refund and 3 free months as recompense? I'm wondering how widespread this was.

anyway, I guess I'll mess around with Tidal again.

Finally redeemed my trial subscription for the same reason everybody else has. What a mess. Really miserable interface, lots of errors and bugs.

on Android, I prefer the UI to Spotify. queue management in particular is a lot easier. I also haven't had any issues with streaming lately.

if the catalog caught up, I'd seriously consider dropping Spotify for Tidal, but evey week I run into things that are missing. for example, the CFCF album that came out on Friday is on Spotify and is not on Tidal. outside of the Rihanna and Kanye albums, I can't think of any gaps I've found that run the other direction.

so it goes http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/mar/31/jay-z-tidal-owners-schibsted-verdane?CMP=share_btn_fb

Welp

I finally signed up for the free 30 day trial so I could indulge in some Prince nostalgia, and the sound quality is so much crazily better than Spotify that I don't really know what to say. I may end up keeping them both. The weird ILM anti-Tidal bias (actually it's not that weird) had kept me away until now. Kind of hoping that Jay Z will discover a love for death metal and Julianna Hatfield, join ILM, start multiple handy and helpful playlist threads that happen (for no particular reason) to be Tidal-based, and then we can all be friends.

Do you have Spotify set to the highest bitrate (320)?

Yes. I've also set my bitrate to Julianna Hatfield and Donny Darko, but it doesn't seem to be helping.

i've been using tidal since kanye and it's very easily the best streaming all imo, and i say that as a multi-year spotify subscriber

i think the celebrities behind tidal have done a terrible job of marketing it. part of it is just the problem of people like kanye and jay-z being the ones saying "give more money back to the artists"--they're right, but they are terrible poster boys for needy musicians.

But will Jay Z handle the statistical analysis for my humble village's Padgenjop [species of Swedish fish] poll in 2016? If not, I fear I must return to Spotify full-time...

It is true that famous black musicians are much worse spokespeople for a music service than anonymous white businessmen, some of whom we might be friends with.

you got me!

i mean, that's not entirely untrue? the press has an anti-artist, pro-business slant and has for a while.

i guess i don't know enough about "the press" -- that seems like a very broad generalization to make. do you mean the music press? newspapers? blogs?

Tidal really is a lot better now. I just transferred my huge 1450 track 2016 playlist from Spotify to Tidal using Soundiiz and it found 1324 of the tracks - way more than I expected. With some additional detective work I located about 50 more and the 50 or so that are left are mostly pretty obscure.

I've been pleasantly surprised by the Tidal app (which I only downloaded for Beyonce), but I'm not entirely convinced by the whole proposition yet. Now I use Sonos for most of my listening I'm not really arsed which service I use, but I've got too many Spotify playlists to give them up easily.

I'd never heard of Soundiiz before though, sounds intriguing.

What about the whole proposition rubs you the wrong way, Matt?
I miss the notifications and the ability to pick up tracks from friends' playlists and also the stats from Spotify. The sound is better though and that does mean something. As does the argument about economy.

My main objection was always that they just didn't have the stuff I was looking for though, and this seems to be changing. There's still a bit of afropop and dancehall missing but not enough that I can really complain about it anymore.

Yeah the size of the catalogue was my whole issue, also ease of playlist porting, but if this is all changing then I'm open to making a switch. There has to be a compelling reason to do so though and the only one I can think of is Spotify's dodgy search and endless spinning circles if it's not in the mood.

does that even happen on paid spotify?! i literally only ever open spotify to make playlists for other ppl and i hate every moment i'm in it bc of the spinning circles, freezes, intrusive ads on the screen etc, but i thought that was just a drawback of the free version

It happen infrequently but it's annoying when it does. The Sonos app has no such issues.

Realistically, Tidal has much better (and noticeably so) sound. Spotify has a better catalog, especially when it comes to the obscure stuff. The interfaces strike me as very similar. Tidal doesn't have a fairly high-level executive supplying playlists to ILM, which is a drawback (unless you consider being urged to listen to Baby Metal a drawback itself, in which case things get complicated). My solution at the moment was to drop Netflix and subscribe to Tidal in addition to Spotify. I might go to free Spotify in the near future.

i don't think glenn is a 'high level executive'

Who is this glenn of whom you speak? I only know one glenn (with a small g) and he runs a small mom & pop store that sells herring or something. Some random blog called Vice did an article on him a while ago, I think about whether he preferred dill or mustard on his herring?

Tidal has better sound even on the standard subscription? Because the 'hi-fi' one is a bit pricey for me

What is hi-fi Tidal, $19.99 a month? So two hours a month working at your job at McDonalds. Spotify is only one hour a month flipping burgers, and that other $9.98 is completely essential to feed your wife and children. So yeah, forget I ever brought it up, Spotify all the way. At the end of the year, you'll have an extra $120 or so, which makes a nice down-payment for a house in Bushwick. And now that I think of it, back in the 90s when I was just out of college, they actually *paid* you to take CDs home from the store.

fuck off?