4ad is down at the moment, so... will the vinyl version not feature Realiti? The cd version lists it twice as track 10 and track 15 realiti demo as a bonus track.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 20:58 (eight years ago) link
Oh, here we go:
Please Note: Digital MP3 and FLAC will be available for purchase and will be released on November 6th, 2015.Physical CD, Cassette and LP are slated for release on December 11th. Due to industry wide manufacturing delays at record pressing plants its possible the LP will be released at a later date, we will update when more information is available.Spanning over 14 tracks, the new album features collaborations with Janelle Monáe and newcomer, Taiwanese rapper Aristophanes. It was recorded primarily in her home studio in Los Angeles, CA, where she relocated to in 2014. Like all of her previous albums, ‘Art Angels’ was written and recorded entirely as a solo endeavor. The new album features more live instrumentation than ever before on a Grimes record. She plays piano, guitar and violin, continuing her evolution as a musician and a producer for her most ambitious album to date. Tracklisting:1. laughing and not being normal2. California3. SCREAM ft. Aristophanes4. Flesh without Blood5. Belly of the Beat6. Kill V. Maim7. Artangels8. Easily9. Pin10. Realiti^11. World Princess part II12. Venus Fly ft. Janelle Monáe13. Life in the Vivid Dream14. Butterfly15. Realiti (Demo)* ^ - CD and digital only* - CD only
Physical CD, Cassette and LP are slated for release on December 11th. Due to industry wide manufacturing delays at record pressing plants its possible the LP will be released at a later date, we will update when more information is available.
Spanning over 14 tracks, the new album features collaborations with Janelle Monáe and newcomer, Taiwanese rapper Aristophanes. It was recorded primarily in her home studio in Los Angeles, CA, where she relocated to in 2014. Like all of her previous albums, ‘Art Angels’ was written and recorded entirely as a solo endeavor. The new album features more live instrumentation than ever before on a Grimes record. She plays piano, guitar and violin, continuing her evolution as a musician and a producer for her most ambitious album to date. Tracklisting:1. laughing and not being normal2. California3. SCREAM ft. Aristophanes4. Flesh without Blood5. Belly of the Beat6. Kill V. Maim7. Artangels8. Easily9. Pin10. Realiti^11. World Princess part II12. Venus Fly ft. Janelle Monáe13. Life in the Vivid Dream14. Butterfly15. Realiti (Demo)* ^ - CD and digital only* - CD only
that sucks :S
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 21:00 (eight years ago) link
They should at least add it as a 7" it will probably be the best song in here.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 21:01 (eight years ago) link
apparently she changed Realiti a bit.
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 21:09 (eight years ago) link
And apparently neither version is on the vinyl version :(
This leaked a couple of minutes ago btw.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 21:16 (eight years ago) link
New Realiti is pretty much an extended version of the demo, she adds an opening, poppier sounding verse. Not sure how I feel about it I was used to the demo version.
World Princess is the highlight on first listen but this is way too pop compared to her previous albums. Sounds like something like Kelly Clarkson. Backlash will be inevitable.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 21:32 (eight years ago) link
Sounds like something like Kelly Clarkson
hell yeah
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 21:34 (eight years ago) link
cannot wait
― nomar, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 21:34 (eight years ago) link
leak is a particularly shitty rip
― Number None, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 21:36 (eight years ago) link
it really is
"kill v. maim" is completely great
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 21:43 (eight years ago) link
and the studio version of "realiti" is kind of a headscratcher
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 21:59 (eight years ago) link
she turned it into a banger... I preferred it as the more downbeat melancholic demo version but I wouldn't call it a disappointment.
I'm not sure how I feel about this polished version of Grimes. It sounds good and there's some interesting ideas but it kind of lost that bedroom quality that set her apart. I can't make up my mind.
Lovers of early 00s pop will probably love this. At times it sounds like Kelly Clarkson and Gwen Stefani and Nelly Furtado and Britney Spears.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 22:08 (eight years ago) link
Kill V Maim will be the 2nd video/single and California the 3rd.
https://twitter.com/Grimezsz/status/660234327049965569
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 22:10 (eight years ago) link
At times it sounds like Kelly Clarkson and Gwen Stefani and Nelly Furtado and Britney Spears.
i just finished listening to it and i think you're overstating this
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 22:16 (eight years ago) link
Maybe it's an overstatement... I don't know. Just the opening minute of Kill V Maim:
0:00-0:30 = Kelly Clarkson-esque0:40-1:00 = I'm definitely hearing Gwen Stefani.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 22:26 (eight years ago) link
Ok, maybe the Kelly Clarkson is a bit of an overstatement. I correct myself:
At times it sounds like Charli XCX and Gwen Stefani and Nelly Furtado
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 22:31 (eight years ago) link
laughing and not being normal is such a great song title
― marcos, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 23:18 (eight years ago) link
this will be amazing
The title track and Easily sound like something off of Impossible Princess.
― MarkoP, Thursday, 5 November 2015 00:33 (eight years ago) link
track 14 on fever was also called butterfly iirc
― james brooks, Thursday, 5 November 2015 00:38 (eight years ago) link
Excited to hear this. I haven't really kept up with Grimes lately, but I read this thread the other night, and now I've been playing both "Realiti" and "Flesh Without Blood" on repeat.
― jaymc, Thursday, 5 November 2015 05:24 (eight years ago) link
listening to this in proper quality, it's mostly great. a bit surprised by how summery most of it is after her talk of 90s alt influences & guitar etc. but that's not bad at all. highlights are probably Flesh Without Blood, Kill v Maim, Artangels, and Butterfly?
the start of the album is a bit messy - Scream feels very out of place sequenced where it is & Belly of the Beat feels a bit half-formed?
the new version of Realiti doesn't match the demo's swirl but I like the new synth line in the outro, it's fine, though the demo is still probably the best thing she's done.
― ufo, Thursday, 5 November 2015 13:49 (eight years ago) link
really love Butterfly
― mingalaba, Friday, 6 November 2015 12:07 (eight years ago) link
Oh shit! I forgot this came out today and didn't download it to my ipod. shit shit shit.
― how's life, Friday, 6 November 2015 12:19 (eight years ago) link
demo realiti is the best song of maybe several years? otoh the rest of this didn't really grab me and poss i don't really 'like' grimes otherwise cuz visions never did anything for me either
― johnny crunch, Friday, 6 November 2015 12:56 (eight years ago) link
"kill v. maim" revealing itself as the best song ever
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Friday, 6 November 2015 14:45 (eight years ago) link
this is going to be a really polarizing album, but on balance i'm sure it will bring her many, many new fans. i guess i'm on the "it's not for me" side of things. i dunno. Visions was next on the playlist after I listened this morning, and it's just so much better to my ears. something like Vowels=Space+Time feels like a different (better) universe than artangels. it's not like she got bad at making music or anything, she just seems to have moved into an area of pop that i don't care about
― Karl Malone, Friday, 6 November 2015 15:44 (eight years ago) link
^ pretty much where i'm at with this thing too
― circa1916, Friday, 6 November 2015 15:47 (eight years ago) link
i have irrational sadness because i want to be on the same page as grimes.
i guess i'll always have the flaming swordhttp://38.media.tumblr.com/da1f00c8ddd6af544fbe21cc36e888b3/tumblr_mxgcjaGKLc1s5gs1ho1_250.gif
― Karl Malone, Friday, 6 November 2015 15:54 (eight years ago) link
same here. I loved Visions but nothing grabs me in the new album. Although I didn't really like anything she released since Visions, I still had hope that there would be some great stuff to come... I only listened to it once, though. Maybe it will grow...
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 6 November 2015 15:58 (eight years ago) link
i think there's something to how the one song she originally said definitely wouldn't be on the album is the best thing song she's ever done. as much as visions sounded occasionally unfinished, parts of this sound both overcooked and underwritten. i generally like it, but the standouts ("kill v. maim," "flesh without blood," "pin," "butterfly") tower over the rest of the record.
tbh it'll probably grow on me
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Friday, 6 November 2015 16:04 (eight years ago) link
i mean essentially it's a grimes record: not all of it works but it's fun to live in
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Friday, 6 November 2015 16:06 (eight years ago) link
if nothing else, flesh w/out blood + realiti will be on my playlists for a long time, so i shouldn't whine too much
― Karl Malone, Friday, 6 November 2015 16:21 (eight years ago) link
Something about this record smells of ghost writing and production assistance to me, in spite of the deliberate "GRIMES/GRIMES/GRIMES" credit shot that was posted -- it just feels like too much of a departure from her past stuff, and feels so much more "pro," mostly in a way I don't like so far.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 6 November 2015 16:23 (eight years ago) link
ofl it's a bit thn
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 November 2015 16:24 (eight years ago) link
i have no reason to believe she got production assistance (and that would be shitty given her stance on such things), i do have a strong suspicion she got really wrapped up in making this sound super profesh and lost the plot.
the new realiti is not the departure i was expecting but it contains about a dozen production choices that never needed to be made.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 6 November 2015 16:26 (eight years ago) link
I know it's a tired thing to complain about in 2015, but a lot of the vocals are over-autotuned and over-reverbed, and it kills some of the flavor of her voice.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 6 November 2015 16:27 (eight years ago) link
it just feels like too much of a departure from her past stuff, and feels so much more "pro," mostly in a way I don't like so far.
probably just a result of learning how to engineer better, taking the time to do it, and having the resources for better gear instead of 1 keyboard + GarageBand? also it's probably impossible not to write & produce differently after playing giant festivals for a few years.
xp
― expertly crafted referential display name (Jordan), Friday, 6 November 2015 16:28 (eight years ago) link
(i'm not really feeling it either so far, but want to give it some time)
― expertly crafted referential display name (Jordan), Friday, 6 November 2015 16:29 (eight years ago) link
The realiti thing is so weird to me, I thought her production on the "demo" version was genius, and I can't stand the album version.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 6 November 2015 16:33 (eight years ago) link
Seems really really "ILX totally in character" to be hating on a really fun album because it's not the same as the last one?
(With a nasty side order of "I liked her so much better when she couldn't really play" no matter how ill-founded.)
― La Düsseldork (Branwell with an N), Friday, 6 November 2015 16:40 (eight years ago) link
cool
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 6 November 2015 16:41 (eight years ago) link
For the most part, I'm really enjoying the album, but while I always liked "Genesis" and "Oblivion," I've never really felt ~invested~ in Grimes, and I don't think I'd heard the "Realiti" demo until a few days ago. So, y'know.
― jaymc, Friday, 6 November 2015 16:42 (eight years ago) link
tbf, I literally hate fun
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 6 November 2015 16:44 (eight years ago) link
Something about this record smells of ghost writing and production assistance to me, in spite of the deliberate "GRIMES/GRIMES/GRIMES" credit shot that was posted
this belongs in the comment section of youtube, not on ilx
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 6 November 2015 16:47 (eight years ago) link
uh I think it's weird that a critique of this record could be "she got better at engineering." this record sounds great and I'm really into that. (I think the title track is a great example—it sounds both crisp and dreamy)
of course I also think the degree of the "departure" here is being overstated. i recognize the songcraft of visions 100 percent here. there's just a lot more guitar
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Friday, 6 November 2015 16:48 (eight years ago) link
yeah i mean... if someone goes 3 and a half years between records and talks up learning new skills and acquiring new equipment and then you instantly attribute any leap in fidelity to ghostwriting that's pretty shitty
― some dude, Friday, 6 November 2015 16:52 (eight years ago) link
Yeah I guess. Mostly I just don't like the aesthetic choices on this one so far, but I'll give it more time.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 6 November 2015 16:54 (eight years ago) link
Well, for me, the main (only ?) problem is that I don't find any great melodies and hooks on the new album while there were plenty on Visions.
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 6 November 2015 16:57 (eight years ago) link
Not saying "no way she could have gotten this much 'better'" -- I don't think it's better! I just think it sounds a lot closer to a lot of modern radio pop that IS largely produced/written/shaped by the same handful of people. If she wanted something closer to that sound, she achieved it. I don't like the sound.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 6 November 2015 16:59 (eight years ago) link