feel like the review printed in neil's disc mentions that people were not that into miles ...
The condescending liner notes of the Miles set mention "bewildered applause" -- I have no idea what that's supposed to sound like, but after Miles finishes, people are yelling "Bravo!" and "More!" so apparently "bewildered" in this case means "enthusiastic."
Michael Cuscuna's liner notes in the Miles Fillmore East Bootleg Series actually single out those other notes for criticism, quoting attendees who said Neil's audience dug Miles and vice-versa.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 19:48 (ten years ago)
hey tyler - there's pro video of that crazy ill-fated Euro Trans tour, could that be possible?
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 19:54 (ten years ago)
A Treasure wins my Truth in Advertising Award, and yeah, goes w Bluebird re live music redeeming eras of disappointing studio releases: in this case, we get International Harvesters, the band (plus tour reinforcement, esp. vocal) known mainly via the fumbledOld Ways, and forbidden to try again, when Geffen sued Neil for not sounding enough like himself (compare w Zaentz suing solo comeback Fogerty for sounding too much like himself/recordings Z. owned rights to). Neil was no longer rockin' in the free world/enough like Tom Petty, that's prob what was really desired.Anyway, even though this is cobbled from here and there, even YouTube, Neil said, it works seamlessly and dynamically (and sonically; is any of it really from YouTube?)
― dow, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 20:02 (ten years ago)
xpyeah, it's possible! i'm not sure if the audio would be super revelatory though -- the videos are the craziest things, with neil and nils lofgren dancing around with their vocoders.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 20:03 (ten years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osTWE6Pg5p4
I saw a VHS copy of that years ago, Nils' dancing is lol
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 20:06 (ten years ago)
i think it's even on DVD?
― tylerw, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 20:08 (ten years ago)
Yup!
http://www.amazon.com/Neil-Young-In-Berlin/dp/B000059LGH
And the pricing is consistent with Neil's other releases.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 20:09 (ten years ago)
heh heh. all part of the master plan -- after kids looking for neil young on spotify dig into TRANS, they'll need more! Then they have to cough up the bucks for the DVD.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 20:11 (ten years ago)
The whole thing can be watched here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqHcb7M5ZN8
The After Berlin song over the credits is pretty good. (And only available on this dvd!?)
― satans favourite son, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 20:12 (ten years ago)
[ or on this comp: http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/24071228066/bad-news-neil-young-in-the-1980s-as-a-follow-up ]
― tylerw, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 20:13 (ten years ago)
some of that comp has been rendered redundant by the bluenote cafe release ... but still, that 20-minute crime in the city!
― tylerw, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 20:16 (ten years ago)
I've seen other Trans band shows here and there online, though not recently.
― dow, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 20:22 (ten years ago)
Other "Performance" things to consider:
Catalyst Crazy Horse shows ('84-5)Princeton Landing or whatever it was Crazy Horse shows ('96) unless that was what Year of The Horse came from
― Jesus Krist of Novoselic (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 20:40 (ten years ago)
i think a few of those princeton landing performances ended up on year of the horse (but not all). those tapes are awesome. catalyst would be great! as would young & the restless from 89... just hard to tell how they'll fit into the numbering scheme he has going.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 20:45 (ten years ago)
Something else too would be a release from the Twisted Road tour--some unreleased songs and (to me anyway) it seemed like the Le noise stuff kicked a little harder onstage.
― Jesus Krist of Novoselic (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 21:05 (ten years ago)
as would young & the restless from 89
I've got the audience recording of the Seattle show. They played "Rockin' in the Free World" for the first time -- not just the first time for an audience, but the band hadn't even heard the song before. It's an incredible moment; always wondered if that show had been officially recorded.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 21:29 (ten years ago)
yeah that's the one ... no idea if there's a pro tape of it. some of the guitar action during that show is unbelievably intense.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 21:31 (ten years ago)
Trunk Show is fucking great, I wish that were available as an albumor as a DVD for that matter
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 21:41 (ten years ago)
agreed! that band was pretty happening, good flexibility. actually a full ducks performance series seems like the least likely, maybe, since neil is not the primary singer-songwriter on a lot of it. bet that stuff will just be featured on the Archives proper.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 21:52 (ten years ago)
Loving "Bluenote Cafe"
― chr1sb3singer, Friday, 20 November 2015 16:27 (ten years ago)
yeah! it really is something. "tonight's the night" legit terrifying, like the most demented Coasters song ever.
― tylerw, Friday, 20 November 2015 16:28 (ten years ago)
I have a real soft spot for this era cuz "This Note's For You" (the song) is def the first time I was aware of Neil & it coincided with my really starting to get interested in music when I was 13-14, then "Freedom" & the "Rockin' in the Free World" on SNL was when I went from curious to full on fan.
But so, this live set is kind of like the perfect thing to me, cuz this is like what I always imagined them sounding like...it is kind of amazing how perfectly Neil's approach works with the big horn section. His guitar playing is really on point through out.
And yeah the "Tonight's the Night" is crazy, at one point it is super abstract & spacey and then it's "Secret Agent Man"
― chr1sb3singer, Friday, 20 November 2015 16:41 (ten years ago)
i gotta get this....gonna hit electric fetus after work
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 20 November 2015 16:44 (ten years ago)
^^Lyric from next Neil album.
― Boz Scaggs was Adele back in 1976 (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 20 November 2015 18:23 (ten years ago)
be sure you get a hip hop haircut first
― Οὖτις, Friday, 20 November 2015 18:26 (ten years ago)
Just because:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLp3Wmk3PGQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljKFqE6S6Vo
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 20 November 2015 19:24 (ten years ago)
I've said it before (probably upthread), but it's a shame Neil didn't make a whole album or two with that band. Steve Jordan at 3:31 is easily my favorite thing a Neil Young drummer ever did.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 20 November 2015 19:36 (ten years ago)
I dunno not as flashy but Kenny Buttrey has a lot of amazing little licks and turnarounds
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 22 November 2015 03:02 (ten years ago)
Damn, that's spectacular - what a band. Pumping! Neil looks like he's loving it too.
― niels, Sunday, 22 November 2015 10:00 (ten years ago)
Had to go get this today. Pretty awesome so far. Despite the thing being anti sponsorships, it's kind of the masterpiece of the form of 80s beer commercial rock
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 22 November 2015 19:13 (ten years ago)
did you grab it on CD or 4x(!) LP? i'm limited on budget, wondering if i should go all the way and spring for the vinyl...
― nomar, Sunday, 22 November 2015 19:34 (ten years ago)
In Shakey he talked about how he was doing calisthenics in the dressing room to get his body in the place it would have been if they'd been doing the song in an actual concert (end of the main set iirc), which helps explain how wired & intense it is.
― Boz Scaggs was Adele back in 1976 (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 22 November 2015 21:18 (ten years ago)
did you grab it on CD or 4x(!) LP? i'm limited on budget, wondering if i should go all the way and spring for the vinyl...― nomar, Sunday, November 22, 2015 1:34 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Man would love vinyl but double CD was on sale for 17.99, vinyl box is 95, I gotta kid Neil
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 22 November 2015 21:22 (ten years ago)
Shakey also has a story of visiting Neil during the recording of what would become "El Dorado" and describing the volume as so loud it was unbearable.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 22 November 2015 21:23 (ten years ago)
All those ordinary peopleBuying' box sets in the neon lightAll those PONO peopleDownloadin' them hi-res filesAll the Neil peopleUnsubscribin' from Spotify
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 22 November 2015 21:26 (ten years ago)
According to Shakey, Neil was inspired to do Eldorado after watching The Kids Are Alright.
xp
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 22 November 2015 21:50 (ten years ago)
I hate him for leaving "Cocaine Eyes" off Freedom.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 November 2015 22:07 (ten years ago)
What I don't get is why "Don't Cry" was edited for Freedom. I can't imagine the extra seven seconds of whomping guitar was a dealbreaker for Reprise.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 22 November 2015 22:32 (ten years ago)
Wiki says that Sampredo and Niko Bolas insisted on it.
― mizzell, Monday, 23 November 2015 02:01 (ten years ago)
Sorry in advance, but Neil has become a meme for all the wrong reasons...
https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12295329_1149105518451225_3265641725980756513_n.jpg?oh=b96dd836d7cf56bfe36bd18a9fb1cf87&oe=56F4CBF8
― Boz Scaggs was Adele back in 1976 (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 23 November 2015 02:23 (ten years ago)
is that neil's new backing band? what an innovator!
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 23 November 2015 03:19 (ten years ago)
woah, the anti-PONO lobby are in a mood
― please don't shampoo your eyes (stevie), Monday, 23 November 2015 10:06 (ten years ago)
I really wish Neil had never gotten mixed up w that Bolas guy I think he is p mediocre 80s hack
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 23 November 2015 12:31 (ten years ago)
helps explain how wired & intense it is
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/11-23-2015/ASl-TA.gif
― niels, Monday, 23 November 2015 13:30 (ten years ago)
Niko Bolas? Like a lot of guys of his era he recorded some superstar shit, but he's OK. Didn't he and Neil call themselves the Volume Dealers?
Ha, wiki:
Among his most notable production works are Neil Young's This Note's for You, Freedom and Living with War, Warren Zevon's Sentimental Hygiene and Melissa Etheridge debut self-titled album. Bolas' trademark technique is clear and loud recording of vocals. The same can be said of his talent at recording other musical instruments - in the early 80s, Bolas collaborated with legendary American hard rock band KISS, on their album Creatures of the Night, recording Eric Carr's drums.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 November 2015 16:07 (ten years ago)
i dunno, maybe it's just that era. but shit like too far gone off freedom just pales in comparison to the version on the original chrome dreams bootleg
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 23 November 2015 16:17 (ten years ago)
probably more the era than the producer, but it's probably worth noting that bolas and briggs had a mutual loathing society going on for a while.
― tylerw, Monday, 23 November 2015 16:52 (ten years ago)
This was during the period when Neil thought the sun rose and set on digital. Only took him four or five albums to realize he didn't like it.
(Not that digital recording itself was the problem, but engineers new to digital would frequently crank the high frequencies into the painful range for "clarity" and "definition.")
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 23 November 2015 17:26 (ten years ago)
wanna say Ragged Glory was digital
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 23 November 2015 19:17 (ten years ago)