i think a few of those princeton landing performances ended up on year of the horse (but not all). those tapes are awesome. catalyst would be great! as would young & the restless from 89... just hard to tell how they'll fit into the numbering scheme he has going.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 20:45 (nine years ago)
Something else too would be a release from the Twisted Road tour--some unreleased songs and (to me anyway) it seemed like the Le noise stuff kicked a little harder onstage.
― Jesus Krist of Novoselic (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 21:05 (nine years ago)
as would young & the restless from 89
I've got the audience recording of the Seattle show. They played "Rockin' in the Free World" for the first time -- not just the first time for an audience, but the band hadn't even heard the song before. It's an incredible moment; always wondered if that show had been officially recorded.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 21:29 (nine years ago)
yeah that's the one ... no idea if there's a pro tape of it. some of the guitar action during that show is unbelievably intense.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 21:31 (nine years ago)
Trunk Show is fucking great, I wish that were available as an albumor as a DVD for that matter
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 21:41 (nine years ago)
agreed! that band was pretty happening, good flexibility. actually a full ducks performance series seems like the least likely, maybe, since neil is not the primary singer-songwriter on a lot of it. bet that stuff will just be featured on the Archives proper.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 21:52 (nine years ago)
Loving "Bluenote Cafe"
― chr1sb3singer, Friday, 20 November 2015 16:27 (nine years ago)
yeah! it really is something. "tonight's the night" legit terrifying, like the most demented Coasters song ever.
― tylerw, Friday, 20 November 2015 16:28 (nine years ago)
I have a real soft spot for this era cuz "This Note's For You" (the song) is def the first time I was aware of Neil & it coincided with my really starting to get interested in music when I was 13-14, then "Freedom" & the "Rockin' in the Free World" on SNL was when I went from curious to full on fan.
But so, this live set is kind of like the perfect thing to me, cuz this is like what I always imagined them sounding like...it is kind of amazing how perfectly Neil's approach works with the big horn section. His guitar playing is really on point through out.
And yeah the "Tonight's the Night" is crazy, at one point it is super abstract & spacey and then it's "Secret Agent Man"
― chr1sb3singer, Friday, 20 November 2015 16:41 (nine years ago)
i gotta get this....gonna hit electric fetus after work
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 20 November 2015 16:44 (nine years ago)
^^Lyric from next Neil album.
― Boz Scaggs was Adele back in 1976 (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 20 November 2015 18:23 (nine years ago)
be sure you get a hip hop haircut first
― Οὖτις, Friday, 20 November 2015 18:26 (nine years ago)
Just because:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLp3Wmk3PGQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljKFqE6S6Vo
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 20 November 2015 19:24 (nine years ago)
I've said it before (probably upthread), but it's a shame Neil didn't make a whole album or two with that band. Steve Jordan at 3:31 is easily my favorite thing a Neil Young drummer ever did.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 20 November 2015 19:36 (nine years ago)
I dunno not as flashy but Kenny Buttrey has a lot of amazing little licks and turnarounds
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 22 November 2015 03:02 (nine years ago)
Damn, that's spectacular - what a band. Pumping! Neil looks like he's loving it too.
― niels, Sunday, 22 November 2015 10:00 (nine years ago)
Had to go get this today. Pretty awesome so far. Despite the thing being anti sponsorships, it's kind of the masterpiece of the form of 80s beer commercial rock
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 22 November 2015 19:13 (nine years ago)
did you grab it on CD or 4x(!) LP? i'm limited on budget, wondering if i should go all the way and spring for the vinyl...
― nomar, Sunday, 22 November 2015 19:34 (nine years ago)
In Shakey he talked about how he was doing calisthenics in the dressing room to get his body in the place it would have been if they'd been doing the song in an actual concert (end of the main set iirc), which helps explain how wired & intense it is.
― Boz Scaggs was Adele back in 1976 (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 22 November 2015 21:18 (nine years ago)
did you grab it on CD or 4x(!) LP? i'm limited on budget, wondering if i should go all the way and spring for the vinyl...― nomar, Sunday, November 22, 2015 1:34 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Man would love vinyl but double CD was on sale for 17.99, vinyl box is 95, I gotta kid Neil
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 22 November 2015 21:22 (nine years ago)
Shakey also has a story of visiting Neil during the recording of what would become "El Dorado" and describing the volume as so loud it was unbearable.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 22 November 2015 21:23 (nine years ago)
All those ordinary peopleBuying' box sets in the neon lightAll those PONO peopleDownloadin' them hi-res filesAll the Neil peopleUnsubscribin' from Spotify
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 22 November 2015 21:26 (nine years ago)
According to Shakey, Neil was inspired to do Eldorado after watching The Kids Are Alright.
xp
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 22 November 2015 21:50 (nine years ago)
I hate him for leaving "Cocaine Eyes" off Freedom.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 November 2015 22:07 (nine years ago)
What I don't get is why "Don't Cry" was edited for Freedom. I can't imagine the extra seven seconds of whomping guitar was a dealbreaker for Reprise.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 22 November 2015 22:32 (nine years ago)
Wiki says that Sampredo and Niko Bolas insisted on it.
― mizzell, Monday, 23 November 2015 02:01 (nine years ago)
Sorry in advance, but Neil has become a meme for all the wrong reasons...
https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12295329_1149105518451225_3265641725980756513_n.jpg?oh=b96dd836d7cf56bfe36bd18a9fb1cf87&oe=56F4CBF8
― Boz Scaggs was Adele back in 1976 (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 23 November 2015 02:23 (nine years ago)
is that neil's new backing band? what an innovator!
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 23 November 2015 03:19 (nine years ago)
woah, the anti-PONO lobby are in a mood
― please don't shampoo your eyes (stevie), Monday, 23 November 2015 10:06 (nine years ago)
I really wish Neil had never gotten mixed up w that Bolas guy I think he is p mediocre 80s hack
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 23 November 2015 12:31 (nine years ago)
helps explain how wired & intense it is
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/11-23-2015/ASl-TA.gif
― niels, Monday, 23 November 2015 13:30 (nine years ago)
Niko Bolas? Like a lot of guys of his era he recorded some superstar shit, but he's OK. Didn't he and Neil call themselves the Volume Dealers?
Ha, wiki:
Among his most notable production works are Neil Young's This Note's for You, Freedom and Living with War, Warren Zevon's Sentimental Hygiene and Melissa Etheridge debut self-titled album. Bolas' trademark technique is clear and loud recording of vocals. The same can be said of his talent at recording other musical instruments - in the early 80s, Bolas collaborated with legendary American hard rock band KISS, on their album Creatures of the Night, recording Eric Carr's drums.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 November 2015 16:07 (nine years ago)
i dunno, maybe it's just that era. but shit like too far gone off freedom just pales in comparison to the version on the original chrome dreams bootleg
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 23 November 2015 16:17 (nine years ago)
probably more the era than the producer, but it's probably worth noting that bolas and briggs had a mutual loathing society going on for a while.
― tylerw, Monday, 23 November 2015 16:52 (nine years ago)
This was during the period when Neil thought the sun rose and set on digital. Only took him four or five albums to realize he didn't like it.
(Not that digital recording itself was the problem, but engineers new to digital would frequently crank the high frequencies into the painful range for "clarity" and "definition.")
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 23 November 2015 17:26 (nine years ago)
wanna say Ragged Glory was digital
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 23 November 2015 19:17 (nine years ago)
you are correct, DDD
― sleeve, Monday, 23 November 2015 19:18 (nine years ago)
yeah, recorded at "Plywood Digital" which always sounds kinda hilarious to me.
― tylerw, Monday, 23 November 2015 19:19 (nine years ago)
Was This Note's For You his first DDD recording? Or was it something earlier (Landing on Water sounds like it might be).
I know that, in addition to Eldorado, Freedom, and Ragged Glory, Arc-Weld and Harvest Moon were all-digital, all the time.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 23 November 2015 19:24 (nine years ago)
really have zero problem with ragged glory's sound ... might have to pull out harvest moon to see if it seems less than perfect.
― tylerw, Monday, 23 November 2015 19:28 (nine years ago)
Niko Bolas is responsible for putting together the band on that SNL clip and I think he also did the mix.
― Three Word Username, Monday, 23 November 2015 19:29 (nine years ago)
yeah I don't think those records sound bad
otoh I like the Freedom take on "Too Far Gone" more than the Chrome Dreams take so don't trust me
― droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 23 November 2015 19:35 (nine years ago)
really have zero problem with ragged glory's sound
It's one of my favorite albums of all time, and while I'm listening to it, it sounds fine.
But then I'll listen to Broken Arrow and think, wow, RG could've/should've sounded like this.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 23 November 2015 19:47 (nine years ago)
Everybody's Rockin' was analog mix, digital recorded iirc (or if that makes sense).
― Boz Scaggs was Adele back in 1976 (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 23 November 2015 20:14 (nine years ago)
just like they used to do at sun studio!
― tylerw, Monday, 23 November 2015 20:20 (nine years ago)
"If Elvis had lived, all his '80s stuff would have been digital!"
― Boz Scaggs was Adele back in 1976 (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 23 November 2015 20:23 (nine years ago)
which is probably true
― Οὖτις, Monday, 23 November 2015 20:26 (nine years ago)
All of his 80s stuff would have been horrible...BUT:
I bet we would have gotten an ill-conceived Elvis Rap song which I am not legit mad doesn't exist.
I'm sorry what's this thread about?
Niko Bolas is a cool name though, admit that.
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 23 November 2015 20:36 (nine years ago)
the elvis rick rubin album might've been pretty good.
and/or elvis' run of 3 of 4 james bond movies.
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 23 November 2015 21:12 (nine years ago)
All Tom Petty on the bass, all Rubin trying to make Elvis do Nick Cave songs.
"Got dammit, this "Tupelo" shit ain't make no sense"
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 23 November 2015 21:14 (nine years ago)