kinda connected - came across this a few weeks backhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GUCqMEeaRY
― tylerw, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 20:06 (eight years ago) link
for sure. marr has never shied away from speaking about his folk influences. it's not immediately apparent to those not really into the smiths, for obvious reasons
i'm on track 10 of elkington and salsburg's album, so i'll listen to that after this
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 20:11 (eight years ago) link
elkington and salsburg's ambsace definitely sounds like just tasteful guitar superficially as ums said, but the real treat is listening to the beautiful singular notes ring on a nice pair of headphones. i strongly believe music like this needs to be heard on a nice pair of cans because the guitar production sounds so pristine. clean guitars that are mic'd really close are so nice to hear on headphones because it allows me to hear all the colours. the intertwining guitars are also a huge part for me. while there is no strong sense of melodies like you guys have said, there are almost contrapuntal melodies running through it which, again, sounds really nice when listening up close on headphones.
it's a beautiful album.
incidentally, i stopped playing piano and guitar six years ago but someone gifted me a keyboard this month. this album makes me want to play guitar again, though i always preferred the soft attack of a plucked nylon-string note, to the punchy ones on this album. i bought a nice condenser mic so, who knows, maybe i'll get back into writing and recording tunes again.
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 20:25 (eight years ago) link
sorry to share my pain but 2 things #Jorma is probably the most underrated electric and acoustic classic guitar player ever and 2) this combo of a "classic" Ovation and a chorus pedal (or I suspect a Roland Chorus amp?) is just HORRID tone yikes
like just to contrast it with the elkington/salsburg album which is so gorgeous without verging into crap like that
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 21:17 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLyPH4fLt-w
wow that is pretty awful
― global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 22:57 (eight years ago) link
Ovations are the most evil guitars
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 23:03 (eight years ago) link
my friend in elementary school had an ovation, seemed insanely cool to 10-year-old me.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 23:13 (eight years ago) link
that sound totally hasn't "aged" well.
it boggles my mind how people can be quite good at the guitar but allow themselves to have the worst tin-canny tone. it sounds like he is playing a plastic guitar.
i feel like the whole 80s acoustic guitar was mostly this sound though, with this being an extreme example
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 23:13 (eight years ago) link
I have a soft spot for the 80s Windham Hill guitar sounds. So digital and pristine, but they still sound like guitars. It's like ECM-level clarity, unfortunately usually played by the kind of guys who don't really play with what I would consider a lot of character or style (Ackerman is one exception, I think). In 2015, I'll take sterile-sounding-with-minor-chorusy-effects over conspicuous and phony "field recording" fidelity any day!
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Thursday, 17 December 2015 00:29 (eight years ago) link
Yeah but that Jorma tone isn't even really Hi Fi, it just sounds like an Ovation and a cheap pedal
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 17 December 2015 04:30 (eight years ago) link
This thread is still one of the finest places on the web. Cheers for the Oregon Hill heads up - lovely stuff. And I finally got my copy of the Joan Shelley record. It's probably my album of the year.
― Poacher (Chinaski), Thursday, 17 December 2015 09:03 (eight years ago) link
More Jon Collin. Really into this dude's playing style, moody as hell but abstract and weird too. Good stuff though not for everyone:
https://fortevilfruit.bandcamp.com/album/non-accidents-2014
― grandavis, Thursday, 17 December 2015 20:01 (eight years ago) link
sorry for being so spammy lately but anyway getting used to this loop pedal
https://soundcloud.com/matthew-lee-helgeson/loop-2
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 December 2015 17:49 (eight years ago) link
the good folks at grasstops have put up a comp of early basho - "portrait of basho as a young dragoon" up for free -- also there is an ebook you can download that i haven't gotten yet
but anyway, really cool stuff, and the sound quality is pretty solid
http://soundcloud.com/grasstopsrecording/sets/portrait-of-basho-as-a-young-dragoon
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 December 2015 19:37 (eight years ago) link
Dragoon? Isn't that a form of currency?
― La Lechuza (La Lechera), Wednesday, 30 December 2015 19:43 (eight years ago) link
ha i only knew it from video games had to look it up
dra·goondrəˈɡo͞on/noun1.a member of any of several cavalry regiments in the British army.synonyms: cavalryman, mounted soldier; More
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 December 2015 19:45 (eight years ago) link
I am confused, isn't that what they just had to withdraw from release due to the tape-holder asserting the rights?
(see upthread a bit)
― sleeve, Wednesday, 30 December 2015 19:48 (eight years ago) link
also, WAV downloads! woop woop!
― sleeve, Wednesday, 30 December 2015 19:49 (eight years ago) link
Maybe they can't directly profit from it? Shrug
― Evan, Wednesday, 30 December 2015 19:50 (eight years ago) link
it's complicated but yeah i think basically they aren't going to do any sort of commercial release just this
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 December 2015 19:51 (eight years ago) link
either way i would probably grab this sooner than later
yow, yeah, grab it, that comp is incredible.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 30 December 2015 20:15 (eight years ago) link
Shame, it looks like they put a lot of energy and effort into the prospective package around those 6 tracks.
― Evan, Wednesday, 30 December 2015 20:34 (eight years ago) link
Grass-Tops is reconciling the situation regarding the copyright claim made on the audio material for 'Portrait of Basho as a Young Dragoon' by offering the complete compilation for free download.Our primary objective remains to make Robbie's work available to the public. The decision to offer these recordings for free is a happy medium between producing a physical edition for sale and shelving the tracks all together. This music needs to be heard!While we recognize the potential for other entities to make future ownership claims, we do not believe that any entity controls the Intellectual Property Rights to these recordings. Therefore, it is in the best interest of Grass-Tops and the public to simply make this material available for free. In the event that a legitimate copyright claim is brought forth, no revenue will have been procured from this release.The limited supply of CD copies that we have on-hand (originally intended to be paired with the physical book) will now be given away for FREE at Grass-Tops events / concerts.Enjoy this historic music and have a Happy New Year!Download the e-book (of the same title) that goes with this release, along with all photos and documents from Northwestern University's Special Collections Library archive : https://www.dropbox.com/sh/47s0035pqggdmr4/AABHhdE50wh8KyYbEWD3XiXHa?dl=0Produced by Kyle FosburghTransferred to digital by Radiance RecordingsRestored and mastered by Joe ChurchichSound Engineering by Radiance Recordings and Kyle FosburghCover photo by Barry Olivier (circa. 1967)
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 December 2015 22:45 (eight years ago) link
Hey all, thanks for helping to make 2015 a better year than it would have been without this thread. Lots of good records coming down the pike in 2016, so onwards ....
― grandavis, Thursday, 31 December 2015 16:20 (eight years ago) link
that Basho set is a very nice EOY gift and yeah thanks thread
― sleeve, Thursday, 31 December 2015 16:23 (eight years ago) link
Just got notified that my Marisa Anderson/Tashi Dorji split on Footfalls (new label) is on the way too! Will grab these Basho tracks too, very cool of them to make sure they get out there.
― grandavis, Thursday, 31 December 2015 16:25 (eight years ago) link
― grandavis, Thursday, December 31, 2015 10:20 AM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i concur, i love this thread & all of you.
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 31 December 2015 16:29 (eight years ago) link
On behalf of the lurkers that post relatively rarely like myself thank you as well. I've been following along and am grateful for all the great recommendations, but being behind on listening in general makes me shy to contribute.
― Evan, Thursday, 31 December 2015 16:38 (eight years ago) link
Man you contributed plenty Evan, and congratulations again on getting married! The Glenn Jones wedding action was one of the nicer things I heard about this year, so glad that it worked out for you. Can't wait for that Glenn Jones album next year!
― grandavis, Thursday, 31 December 2015 17:11 (eight years ago) link
this thread is far too wholesome, well done all
― ogmor, Thursday, 31 December 2015 17:13 (eight years ago) link
Thanks grandavis! Having Glenn play at our wedding was certainly one the most special moments in my life, as a notable highlight of the wedding and getting married in general of course. He closed his designated "set" with "Against My Ruin" and it was just the most gloriously Evan-esque wedding at that very moment. It was a dream.
― Evan, Thursday, 31 December 2015 17:22 (eight years ago) link
You're all treats, I don't have much intel to contribute but I owe my ever expanding post fahey knowledge dome to you guys.
― nomar, Thursday, 31 December 2015 17:24 (eight years ago) link
Ogmor, we depend on folks like you to keep us in check now and again. You have turned me onto some of my favorite shit here between the original thread and this one, so thanks for weighing in when you do.
― grandavis, Thursday, 31 December 2015 17:45 (eight years ago) link
i had some nerdy fun a few months ago and went back and re-read the original thread, i think ogmor contributes a particular brand of insight that's needed.
cheers to all!
― global tetrahedron, Thursday, 31 December 2015 18:20 (eight years ago) link
yeahhh, here's to another year of the ILX Brigade! this has little to do with the usual stuff here, but i am 110% everyone is going to love ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r_XNseeDTw&index=10&list=FL93QItGD9ZxCUVPJ1XK_1Og
― tylerw, Thursday, 31 December 2015 20:40 (eight years ago) link
Yo this is the best! Ogmor, think you will definitely dig this one (if you haven't gone down this road already ....)
― grandavis, Thursday, 31 December 2015 20:48 (eight years ago) link
It is a New Year's jam for sure!
― grandavis, Thursday, 31 December 2015 20:49 (eight years ago) link
yeah would prob fit better in the volk guitarist thread. guitarist here is unreal.
― tylerw, Thursday, 31 December 2015 20:51 (eight years ago) link
Let's show some love for Tom Carter, Tashi Dorji, Ryley Walker, Joan Shelley and other Post-Fahey Brigade favorites in the ILM EOY Poll
― moans and feedback (Dinsdale), Sunday, 3 January 2016 09:10 (eight years ago) link
Just into the first track on this, a cover of Grouper(!), but this is really lovely so far. Ryley Walker doing the Aquarium Drunkard "Lagniape Sessions" series:
http://www.aquariumdrunkard.com/2016/01/06/the-lagniappe-sessions-ryley-walker/
― grandavis, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 19:01 (eight years ago) link
Just some damn pretty guitar playing.
― grandavis, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 19:02 (eight years ago) link
Ah!! That Grouper song is an all time favorite song ever. Beautiful. Then Cass McCombs, one of my favorites as well. Guy has good taste apparently (aka similar to mine).
― Evan, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 20:29 (eight years ago) link
i kinda wish i never would have followed ryley walker on twitter tbh i find his "ain't i a dickens? i bet you think i would like THIS but GUESS WHAT i DON'T cuz i'm CRAZY and PUNK" persona p grating"
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 7 January 2016 14:31 (eight years ago) link
Aw, well I didn't know he was like that!
― Evan, Thursday, 7 January 2016 14:41 (eight years ago) link
Ah I get that, but he seems to have backed way off of that persona. He mostly just makes silly (sometimes very funny) jokes and talks up shit he likes now, as opposed to trolling folks that toe the party line. My guess is that he is actually a good dude (he is buddies with Daniel Bachman, who is a super nice guy and I imagine wouldn't hang with too many assholes) who just thinks it is fun to be a brat. I think he has mostly given up the being a brat part, but time will tell.
― grandavis, Thursday, 7 January 2016 15:07 (eight years ago) link
that AD ryley walker session is great!
think i've found walker's twitter more funny than not, but i get what you're saying... pretty interested to hear any live tapes of him and Danny Thompson that emerge.
and hey speaking of AD, I wrote up a few relevant things here: http://www.aquariumdrunkard.com/2016/01/04/zen-buddhist-cowboy-songs-robbie-basho-his-disciples/for real, if you haven't checked out that richard osborn record, you should! has the kind of cover art that makes it look like it'd be collecting dust in the "local" section in your neighborhood coffeeshop, but it is pretty fantastic.
― tylerw, Thursday, 7 January 2016 15:17 (eight years ago) link
oh and hey - i've been able to check out the new glenn jones and i'll just say I don't think anyone's going to be disappointed ... the guy is a master. i know we're a week into 2016, but it's hard for me to imagine any other "american primitive" LP topping it this year.
― tylerw, Thursday, 7 January 2016 15:30 (eight years ago) link
That's a hell of an endorsement.
― Evan, Thursday, 7 January 2016 15:38 (eight years ago) link